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Termyn8or -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/3/2015 4:29:41 PM)

Cool.

T^T




Real0ne -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 2:35:09 AM)

From what I can see the data shows these anti gun people are a few cards short of a full deck. They dont see their hypocrisy that when a school in a no gun zone is attacked the first thing they do is call someone with guns to protect them. [8D]




Real0ne -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 2:57:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

no, all anyone can conclude is that your absence of links as well as some links you have provided long time ago, as always are bullshit, and nothing but bullshit




Britain wants its guns back

A Daily Telegraph online poll has revealed that over 80 percent of Brits would rather a repeal on the hand gun ban over various other "new law" choices

Last Friday the Daily Telegraph, Britain's most widely read broadsheet newspaper, issued an online poll asking members of the public which proposal they would like to see introduced as a Private Members' Bill in the UK's Parliament.

Britons seem unconvinced by the law. The proposer, known as "Colliemum" asked, "...why should only criminals be 'allowed' to possess guns and shoot unarmed, defenceless citizens and police officers?"

While the poll continues, so far over 80 percent of the 11,000+ respondents have told the Telegraph that they want to see the handgun ban repealed. The news comes as America contemplates its own new laws on gun ownership, with British talk show host Piers Morgan claiming to back a UK-style ban for the United States.

While gun crime soared after the British ban in 1997, rates of gun violence have fallen, especially in British cities, following more spending by police forces into tackling gun crime. Police in England and Wales recorded 5,911 firearms offences in 2011/12, a reduction of 42 percent compared with nine years earlier, according to the Office for National Statistics.

But statistics from the United States show that guns are used by citizens to defend themselves around eighty times more often than they are used to take a life. A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally, that is, “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest."

British versus American statistics perhaps displays nothing more than one country investing more in the government response to criminality, while the other maintains a citizen-based response.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3644/britain_wants_its_guns_back

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thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:05:09 AM)


ORIGINAL: Real0ne

From what I can see the data shows these anti gun people are a few cards short of a full deck. They dont see their hypocrisy that when a school in a no gun zone is attacked the first thing they do is call someone with guns to protect them. [8D]


No they do not call someone (not you,not billl smith and not zimmy)they call the cops.[8|][8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:08:49 AM)

While the poll continues, so far over 80 percent of the 11,000+ respondents have told the Telegraph that they want to see the handgun ban repealed.

9,000 out of 60+ million...is that what you call a mandate?[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:14:59 AM)

Nope. Can't agree. I cannot see limiting individual liberty for an illusion of safety and social good.


So no speed limits ,no laws against killing an asshole that deserves it, no laws against bitch slapping your wife because she is a pain in the ass???? Individual liberty is more important than any need of society.[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:24:31 AM)

The neighborhood turned bad a decade after I moved here, so no I did not choose to live in a neighborhood like this.
No I cannot afford to move.

You choose to continue to live there so you obviously do choose to live there.
You can afford a small arsenal and ammo for it. You can afford to own and feed a large dog.
You claim to be retired from the military. So with your pension and social security and your free medical and dental care, your access to the px and commissary I would call bullshit on your calim of poverty.




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:43:12 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

Once again you didn't really pay attention.
I didn't confront, he did.
What do you call it when a person tries to sneak up on you.
When he annouces that he is engaging in illegal activity.
When he repeatedly tries to get you to do so as well.
When he ignores repeated requests to leave the property.
When each time you ask him to leave he moves in closer to you.
He confronted me, I didn't confront him.
This shows one of your basic problems.
Nothing he does that doesn't draw blood counts.
Anything I do top stop him is aggressive.
He has as much right in my yard as I do. You have to believe that if you believe I have no business asking what he is doing there because you think that is confrontational.
You ignore that I asked him what he was doing there.
You forget that when he told me he was a drug dealer.
You forget that I asked him to leave.
You forget that he insisted that I buy from him.
You forget that he continued to insist that I buy from him and kept manuvering closer to me.
You forget that only after all this did I touch, not draw, not display, but just touched it and in a different demeaner told him to leave and never come back.
Any sane person could see that he confronted me.
Any sane person could see that he was looking for trouble.
Any sane person could see that I was only defending myself.
Any sane person could see that I used restraint, under those circumstances I could have legally killed him but I let him go.
But you don't care about that, I should have waited till he got close enough to attack, called a time out, and gone inside to get a chair.
Of course then you would say that I should have locked the door and waited for the cops, it usually only takes about 15 to 20 minutes for them to get there, surely the drug dealer, if that is all he was, would have waited for them.


Someone is having trouble distingushing between tv drama and real life.




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:53:03 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


How am I suppossed to move? I don't even have a car since the engine blew up about 8 months ago. You suffer from the delusion that anyone can afford a 40,000 dollar car and that 4,000 dollars won't put a strain on anyones checking account.


Why do you need a $40,000 car? I have a 35 year old mercedes diesel. It cost me $300 on ebay. It gets 30 mpg on waste vegitable oil I get for free.

Well tricare ripped me off for 400 dollars 3 months ago and I still just barely pay my bills. This just shows how totally out of touch you are.

How can you not be aware that veterans with low income will be treated at all v.a. medical facilities for free?




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:54:06 AM)

How innocent can someone be when they sneak up on you at 3 am, admit they are a drug dealer and use you "coversation'' standing up to them to keep working in on you.

It defies logic that a drug dealer would approach someone like you to sell drugs.[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:55:07 AM)

Every motherfucker who wants to take our guns away should be forced to watch their relative, hopefully a child, getting eaten alive by a wild animal.

Yes this happens almost daily[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:56:56 AM)


ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


Well....I'm here to say that...I have multiple guns....and....while the crime stats here....at my house aren't the best data.....with 11 guns....9 of which are placed in clipped holsters....one in each chamber, under tables throughout the house/in coats....under my pillow (and I'm a fairly big guy....so....few would be afraid of me....regardless)....I can say....along with several signs around my property ("My bullets can travel faster than you.....can you run faster than a bullet?" and "this sign {showing a gun pointed at them} is to protect YOU")....I can say, I've never had a kid enter my home but.....that said...I'm not a fan of guns.....I'm a fan of safety.

All are loaded with hollow points.

(Can't wait to spend them).


Perhaps an open garage door and some beer in the fridge could get you the opportunity?




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 6:59:39 AM)

ORIGINAL: BamaDSo I should have hidden inside or just stood there and watched him advance on me. He didn't just cross my yard, as you seem to want to pretend.
He was sneaking up on me and continued to advance on me.

How does someone sneak up on someone who is watching them?[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 7:00:56 AM)

Um yeah, I don't think K needs to "do the math", if there were 352 million homicides in the US, with a population of 335 million, we'd all be dead dumbass.

More of that hi-caliber mall cop math eh?




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 7:06:53 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


335 million minus 352 million you do the math

He would have to since you obviously cannot.




Real0ne -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 8:52:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Real0ne

From what I can see the data shows these anti gun people are a few cards short of a full deck. They dont see their hypocrisy that when a school in a no gun zone is attacked the first thing they do is call someone with guns to protect them. [8D]


No they do not call someone (not you,not billl smith and not zimmy)they call the cops.[8|][8|]




I see you posted not one but a whole wall of the same illiterate flatulence as in the other thread.

The subject is gun, not the label of the someone who possesses the gun.

See a cop is a someone who is subset of any member of the human race.
Therefore a cop is a someone that has a gun.
Zimmy is a someone who has a gun and so forth.
Please refrain from shitting all over threads on the forum before graduating second grade grammar.


But statistics from the United States show that guns are used by citizens to defend themselves around eighty times more often than they are used to take a life. A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally, that is, “where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest."


"No they do not call someone"

Tell that to the families of the dead kids who pray a zimmie would have been there to save the kids!


I can understand keeping guns out of the hands of people whose law is upside down as many of the posters here as they might open fire on the innocent victims instead of the perps.




Termyn8or -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 9:06:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Every motherfucker who wants to take our guns away should be forced to watch their relative, hopefully a child, getting eaten alive by a wild animal.

Yes this happens almost daily[8|]


Where. I want video ! Really. Let some wolf or some shit eat their kids so they don't reproduce too much.

T^T




Termyn8or -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 9:18:08 AM)

People who want people not to have guns only want OTHER people not to have guns.

A Cleveland councilman's Wife was arrested years ago. Their house had been robbed. She called the cops. They want a list of what was taken and she goes ahead and finds their gun where it was supposed to be and tells the cops that they did not get the gun. They arrested her. I think the name is Cintroen or something like that if anyone wants to look it up.

The unconstitutional gun laws in Cleveland which are moot now, were passed by a huge majority in council. It is likely the guy voted for the bill that got his olady thrown in the can. Of course I am sure it all got schmoozed over.

Just like top cop Simone with his drop piece. The other cops hated him and when he had to go downtown for an investigation he gave up his drop piece. The other cops busted him for it. that also got schmoozed over. Simone had alot of influence with the court, they would like contact him to see if he approved of charges getting reduced for this or that person. I was there. You think any dumbass charges like that are going to stick to someone like that ?

Take the guns away from the government, they kill more than we ever could.

T^T




thompsonx -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 9:30:13 AM)

See a cop is a someone who is subset of any member of the human race.
Therefore a cop is a someone that has a gun.
Zimmy is a someone who has a gun and so forth.
Please refrain from shitting all over threads on the forum before graduating second grade grammar.

Perhaps you might have a grown up point out your logical falacies.[8|]




Termyn8or -> RE: Gun Sales Increase, Violence Declines The 2nd Amendment Protects the Rest! (11/5/2015 9:46:44 AM)

Bottom line thomp, come and get it.

Seriously, how are you going to take my gun without a gun ?

T^T




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