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crumpets -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 7:49:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie LOL.....wow...I feel so small now. I know, I can tell just reading what you write.

crumpets -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 8:09:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I think part of this does have to do with why some who are more affluent going for the idea of just hiring for during trips rather than having a kept woman. That's an interesting point, which is that "vacation" time is different than other times, for these folks. Thinking about that, there is merit to the "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" trip mentality. I think that's pretty much what the Secret Service guys were doing, for example, with your run-of-the-mill hookers. [image]http://selfdeprecate.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/secret-service-cartoon.jpg[/image] quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact The latter gives the other person all of the ability to keep records, probably complete with video, to use the minute they get pissed off, dumped, or somebody younger comes along. Heck, people do crazy stuff over regular break ups. What do you think a person would do when the gravy train comes to an end and exposing the other one is suddenly the more lucrative option? This is the you-pay-them-to-really-go-away answer, which makes a lot of sense. I'd question though whether they really go away. I guess, in the case of Heidi Fleiss, for example, she didn't kiss and tell, so, at least her ladies seem to have been worth the high-price. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I don't feel a bit bad for the guy heading for jail. He absolutely deserves it. The more I learn about the guy, the less I think about him.

Dvr22999874 -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 8:35:11 PM)
I agree with you Lookie................why get bent out of shape over something that really doesn't affect you in any way ? Are you losing money to the working-girls ? Are the working-girls working for somebody else and you aren't getting your cut ? Are the working-girls going to start bombing your home town in an all out push to take over the world ? Get real.................like the man said; Who really DOES give a fuck except small-minded people minding other peoples business.

crumpets -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 9:02:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 Who really DOES give a fuck If you don't question and strive to better understand human behavior, then you simply prove that you know and will know absolutely nothing about human behavior.

AAkasha -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 9:21:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 Who really DOES give a fuck If you don't question and strive to better understand human behavior, then you simply prove that you know and will know absolutely nothing about human behavior. What is ridiculous and I think a few posters have pointed out is that you take a broad issue that is extremely layered with so many factors involved in it, and try to put some weird insight together, and then go to Google Images and find cartoons or pictures that support your idea -- yet you come from a place that you don't grasp a great many of the basic factors at play. Case in point: Ok so you say what people are willing to pay to satisfy their sexual urges. You get hung up on the dollar amount and trying to quantify that and explain it. You take human sexuality, infidelity (in some cases), human addiction (in some cases) and lump them all together and try to get some consensus so you can go Google some images and go "oh! Ok now I get it!" -- But take out the PAYING part completely. Instead look at how much men are willing to risk LOSING by sleeping with a woman that is not his wife or partner whether he pays or not. How much is he rolling the dice? Losing his lifemate, kids, family, respect of his peers, half of his money or worse? That's far more than $4,000 for one night of pleasure yet how many men (and women) are cheating to get their urges satisfied. Now do you lump those guys in with the guys paying for sex? Because a lot of men would NEVER pay for sex on ANY level, but will risk far more than money to have sex with someone who isn't their partner. Akasha

Dvr22999874 -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 9:22:23 PM)
I know enough about human behaviour to know that there are times when I prefer animals rather than self-righteous prats who know nothing about me, throwing around their spurious assertions

Dvr22999874 -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 9:23:55 PM)
I think the guy may be a pimp and he is afraid his girls are cheating him. That's why he keeps on about cost/price.

Greta75 -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/23/2015 9:31:49 PM)
To OP I don't understand why women would pay 40k for a handbag too. So people will pay what they think is worth paying for. It could be looks, it could be convenience, prestige, it could be control. Humans are actually worth paying for, as every human being cannot be replicated, as every individual is extremely unique. How about that cat poop coffee? That cost a bomb too? How about paying a couple of thousands of dollars just to watch a motivational speaker speak? They may not give you sexual pleasure, but maybe they give you hope. Now I tell you, paying lots of money for a prostitute isn't so ridiculous to me. Isn't paying for these things more ridiculous? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anzPm_VAVW0

Wayward5oul -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 4:30:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 Who really DOES give a fuck If you don't question and strive to better understand human behavior, then you simply prove that you know and will know absolutely nothing about human behavior. Yeah well if in all your efforts you fail to gain any more understanding, what does that prove?

AAkasha -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 12:44:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 Who really DOES give a fuck If you don't question and strive to better understand human behavior, then you simply prove that you know and will know absolutely nothing about human behavior. Yeah well if in all your efforts you fail to gain any more understanding, what does that prove? And to that point also -- there are some things that "research" will just confuse, dilute and also just lead you to your OWN preconceived biases in the long run. These are all issues you should make informed decisions based on your human interactions with other people and also use empathy and the ability to look at a person and understand their motivations even though they do not line up with anything you personally can imagine. I think these are skills the OP lacks, so maybe he seeks scientific avenues instead, but relies on poorly defined research that would never, ever hold up in any kind of scientific way - it's just asking random people for opinions and then finding cartoons to support the thoughts. OP needs to spend more time learning to connect with people on an emotional level to understand their motivations and not try to find cookie cutter answers and instead understand the complexities of human interaction. Akasha

LookieNoNookie -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 2:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie And so....I ask....who gives a fuck? Thank you. We're all edified by your unique point of view. Thank you. I appreciate that. (It's a gift.....and a curse).

LookieNoNookie -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 3:02:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 Who really DOES give a fuck If you don't question and strive to better understand human behavior, then you simply prove that you know and will know absolutely nothing about human behavior. Human behavior is more than discernible. History defines it. Understanding it isn't in doubt, by any stretch. Knowing how to deal with it requires leadership....not wishful thinking. (History also.....defines that as well).

LookieNoNookie -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 3:04:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 To OP I don't understand why women would pay 40k for a handbag too. So people will pay what they think is worth paying for. It could be looks, it could be convenience, prestige, it could be control. Humans are actually worth paying for, as every human being cannot be replicated, as every individual is extremely unique. How about that cat poop coffee? That cost a bomb too? How about paying a couple of thousands of dollars just to watch a motivational speaker speak? They may not give you sexual pleasure, but maybe they give you hope. Now I tell you, paying lots of money for a prostitute isn't so ridiculous to me. Isn't paying for these things more ridiculous? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anzPm_VAVW0 Nicely put! So flawlessly well rounded out :) (Wish it weren't true but....you hit the nail!)

crumpets -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 4:08:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 I know enough about human behaviour to know that there are times when I prefer animals rather than self-righteous prats who know nothing about me, throwing around their spurious assertions I only know about you what you write; but I must agree with you ... that's not much.

crumpets -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 4:12:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha and then finding cartoons to support the thoughts. This is the second time you make that ridiculous assertion about the humorous cartoons. In some threads, a "statistic" or "graph" or "real world photo" might be used to "support" an assertion, but, if you can't see that the "cartoons" that I have included in "this" thread are there to be humorous, then you lack the ability to discern that which you seem to decry. Since you seem to need explicit explanations, rest assured that the "cartoons" here are found by a quick google image search for the likes of "joke cartoon" and then the subject (such as "secret service scandal"). That you confuse the jokes with scientific "support", and then you lambaste the quest, is ludicrous. EDIT: Some of your other points are perfectly valid though, so I will respond to them separately (when the site stops crashing).

crumpets -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 5:48:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha What is ridiculous and I think a few posters have pointed out is that you take a broad issue that is extremely layered with so many factors involved in it, and try to put some weird insight together... Ummmm... that's called "thinking"... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha and then go to Google Images and find cartoons or pictures that support your idea Ummmmm... that's called "humor"... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha -- yet you come from a place that you don't grasp a great many of the basic factors at play. Ummmm... that's called "learning"... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Case in point: Ok so you say what people are willing to pay to satisfy their sexual urges. Actually, we almost unanimously agreed that the payment is decidedly NOT for satisfaction of sexual urges... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You get hung up on the dollar amount and trying to quantify that and explain it. Ummmmm... the whole point was that the order of magnitude of that dollar amount tells us something important ... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You take human sexuality, infidelity (in some cases), human addiction (in some cases) and lump them all together and try to get some consensus Ummmm... see above. It's called "thinking". quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha so you can go Google some images and go "oh! Ok now I get it!" -- No. For the third time already. The cartoons in this thread are merely an attempt at humor, which shouldn't need to be explained to you three times. quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha But take out the PAYING part completely. Instead look at how much men are willing to risk LOSING by sleeping with a woman that is not his wife or partner whether he pays or not. This is a perfectly valid point. The overall punitive COST of the sex is, to some men, astronomical. quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha How much is he rolling the dice? Losing his lifemate, kids, family, respect of his peers, half of his money or worse? That's far more than $4,000 for one night of pleasure yet how many men (and women) are cheating to get their urges satisfied. Indeed! quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Now do you lump those guys in with the guys paying for sex? This will take deep thought because it may be as simple as assigning a very large true-cost index to the already expensive sexual act, or, it may be a lot more complex than that, because of probability assessments. A "probability assessment" complicates evaluating the true cost. To illustrate, let's say Eliot Spitzer has a 95% chance of not getting caught when he's fucking his expensive hooker, and only a 5% chance of getting caught. Furthermore, if he is caught, let's say the cost is his entire career (which is a fair assessment of the cost), plus his marriage, and a few other things (like houses) that are part of the marriage-dissolution process; but, if he's not caught, then the actual cost is only about $4,000 for that one night. Given those probabilities, how do we calculate the "true cost"? quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Because a lot of men would NEVER pay for sex on ANY level, but will risk far more than money to have sex with someone who isn't their partner. Yup. Let's say a guy is in a bar, drinking with his friends, and a cute babe asks him to go upstairs for a free fuck. A. What's the cost of that free fuck? B. Now, what's the cost of that free fuck if she harbors the HIV virus? Which do you think the guy will choose?

littleclip -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/24/2015 6:09:38 PM)
I like greta75s reply when some ladies pay hundreds for a pair of shoes thousands for a dress whats the difference in paying someone to have sex with them the way they want at least they are not forcing someone to do something they dislike. I know some wives that pay for their husbands to get a bj as they cant stand it

AAkasha -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/25/2015 9:52:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Yup. Let's say a guy is in a bar, drinking with his friends, and a cute babe asks him to go upstairs for a free fuck. A. What's the cost of that free fuck? B. Now, what's the cost of that free fuck if she harbors the HIV virus? Which do you think the guy will choose? What does your analysis ("thinking") tell you when you bring up a wide variety of situations like this for discussion on a kink board where people love to banter, debate, etc. and no one even responds anymore to your questions? Not even trolls? 1) Is it that people have you on ignore and are not seeing it? 2) Is it that they are reading it, rolling their eyes and thinking "why bother"? 3) Is it that your premises and hypotheses are so convoluted it would take too long for people to even set you straight? Maybe it's time to roll out some new socks? Akasha Akasha

LookieNoNookie -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/25/2015 3:07:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha What is ridiculous and I think a few posters have pointed out is that you take a broad issue that is extremely layered with so many factors involved in it, and try to put some weird insight together... Ummmm... that's called "thinking"... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha and then go to Google Images and find cartoons or pictures that support your idea Ummmmm... that's called "humor"... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha -- yet you come from a place that you don't grasp a great many of the basic factors at play. Ummmm... that's called "learning"... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Case in point: Ok so you say what people are willing to pay to satisfy their sexual urges. Actually, we almost unanimously agreed that the payment is decidedly NOT for satisfaction of sexual urges... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You get hung up on the dollar amount and trying to quantify that and explain it. Ummmmm... the whole point was that the order of magnitude of that dollar amount tells us something important ... quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You take human sexuality, infidelity (in some cases), human addiction (in some cases) and lump them all together and try to get some consensus Ummmm... see above. It's called "thinking". quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha so you can go Google some images and go "oh! Ok now I get it!" -- No. For the third time already. The cartoons in this thread are merely an attempt at humor, which shouldn't need to be explained to you three times. quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha But take out the PAYING part completely. Instead look at how much men are willing to risk LOSING by sleeping with a woman that is not his wife or partner whether he pays or not. This is a perfectly valid point. The overall punitive COST of the sex is, to some men, astronomical. quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha How much is he rolling the dice? Losing his lifemate, kids, family, respect of his peers, half of his money or worse? That's far more than $4,000 for one night of pleasure yet how many men (and women) are cheating to get their urges satisfied. Indeed! quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Now do you lump those guys in with the guys paying for sex? This will take deep thought because it may be as simple as assigning a very large true-cost index to the already expensive sexual act, or, it may be a lot more complex than that, because of probability assessments. A "probability assessment" complicates evaluating the true cost. To illustrate, let's say Eliot Spitzer has a 95% chance of not getting caught when he's fucking his expensive hooker, and only a 5% chance of getting caught. Furthermore, if he is caught, let's say the cost is his entire career (which is a fair assessment of the cost), plus his marriage, and a few other things (like houses) that are part of the marriage-dissolution process; but, if he's not caught, then the actual cost is only about $4,000 for that one night. Given those probabilities, how do we calculate the "true cost"? quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Because a lot of men would NEVER pay for sex on ANY level, but will risk far more than money to have sex with someone who isn't their partner. Yup. Let's say a guy is in a bar, drinking with his friends, and a cute babe asks him to go upstairs for a free fuck. A. What's the cost of that free fuck? B. Now, what's the cost of that free fuck if she harbors the HIV virus? Which do you think the guy will choose? (The beautiful thing about such writings is....I don't even have to expound on my {obvious} response).

Dvr22999874 -> RE: I find it amazing what some people pay to satisfy their sexual needs (11/25/2015 7:29:28 PM)
you missed one definition out crumpets......................'What you write' .......................that's called wanking

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