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LadyPact -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/18/2015 3:15:52 PM)

Here's what I was thinking from the post Des made.

We don't really know what the percent is of males that create female profiles. We do know that at least some of the female profiles that are created by men simply grab a face pic (female) from the internet, old girlfriend, or whomever.

Who would say that is the only type of pic they would steal? (We already know how bad the revenge porn problem is, so it's not that hard to think that a ton of people have those pics of past lovers.)

Perfectly plausible reasoning for those beaver shots being sent out.

One of the really interesting articles that came out during that whole Ashley Madison thing was about how often men were talking to other men (thinking they were women). If that happens on a pay site, it has to happen here.




OsideGirl -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/18/2015 3:42:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact



Who would say that is the only type of pic they would steal? (We already know how bad the revenge porn problem is, so it's not that hard to think that a ton of people have those pics of past lovers.)

Perfectly plausible reasoning for those beaver shots being sent out.



There was a case a few years ago where a guy had a profile here with his ex's picture posing as a female that wanted to be raped. He was arrested for trying to arrange her rape, while posing as her online.




LadyPact -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/18/2015 3:45:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
There was a case a few years ago where a guy had a profile here with his ex's picture posing as a female that wanted to be raped. He was arrested for trying to arrange her rape, while posing as her online.

I remember that. At least it was a useful thread when guys would post questions on the forums about whether such set ups would be a good idea, having never met the female in person.

I wondered from time to time how many vengeful exes were trying the same trick. It's completely amazing what some people do.





LadyConstanze -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/18/2015 3:45:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Now, we know the numbers on cs are about 70% male to 30% female. We also know that conservatively at least 30% of the female profiles are actually written by men, and probably it's closer to 50%. That means that there are only 15 to 20 women to every man. As such, how many women feel they have to write strange men because they aren't getting enough mail from men? Close to zero.


Actually, the numbers are about even as far as actual bodies.

The issue is the number of accounts on site like this. If CS is like any other site I know (I've been working in social sites, building them and managing them since 1996), men make many multiples of accounts, and women make one or two. So, the people running the accounts are about even, but the number of accounts is totally skewed.

Sad, but true.




A friend of mine used to run an internet dating site, relatively small but he was connected with people who also ran sites so they simply had more people, since they charged, I don't think there were a lot of fake accounts, the main problem the sites all had was attracting enough women, women actually paid less, it was pretty much vanilla though people could also announce "alternative interests", the biggest group were single men, and after single men gay men, after them lesbians and the smallest percentage signing up were single straight women. I wondered a bit, but then it does make sense, as a woman you don't really need to search very hard for guys....

So I would think that there are a lot more men than women on this site.




NookieNotes -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 2:19:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Now, we know the numbers on cs are about 70% male to 30% female. We also know that conservatively at least 30% of the female profiles are actually written by men, and probably it's closer to 50%. That means that there are only 15 to 20 women to every man. As such, how many women feel they have to write strange men because they aren't getting enough mail from men? Close to zero.


Actually, the numbers are about even as far as actual bodies.

The issue is the number of accounts on site like this. If CS is like any other site I know (I've been working in social sites, building them and managing them since 1996), men make many multiples of accounts, and women make one or two. So, the people running the accounts are about even, but the number of accounts is totally skewed.

Sad, but true.




A friend of mine used to run an internet dating site, relatively small but he was connected with people who also ran sites so they simply had more people, since they charged, I don't think there were a lot of fake accounts, the main problem the sites all had was attracting enough women, women actually paid less, it was pretty much vanilla though people could also announce "alternative interests", the biggest group were single men, and after single men gay men, after them lesbians and the smallest percentage signing up were single straight women. I wondered a bit, but then it does make sense, as a woman you don't really need to search very hard for guys....

So I would think that there are a lot more men than women on this site.


I'm just saying that having been behind the scenes at several very large dating/adult-type sites, the numbers are actually pretty even when:

1. The sites are established.
2. The sites are free (or at least in the free tier).
3. The numbers are taken into account for multiple accounts.

But that's my experience on sites like this. Not paid dating sites. I know very few women willing to pay for a dating site, and I actively avoid many paid dating sites because the men feel entitled, and act all like, "I paid my fee, i get a woman, right?"




respectmen -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 3:35:24 PM)

There is so much I want to say, it's hard to decide where to begin and in what order to say it all.


From day one, the nature of sexual personal sites has always had nudity. It's hard to imagine one that didn't. Even before websites, we had them personal ad newspapers in sex shops. Did they or did they not have nudity? Was it considered "normal" for them newspapers to have nudity? It's what it is, that's what naturally comes, that's what all falls into place. That's what naturally happens when humans interact in such a way. That's the result of male sexuality in them places. That's the result of female sexuality in them places.

The people who whinge about penis pics, most likely, sex sites were around before they were on the said websites. So that point alone, why should their say even be considered? Do they own the said website? ...besides them going against male nature.

What about the people who like dick pics? There are plenty of women who do. What about the people who want to express their sexuality "their" way, by showing a dick pic? Why should the butthurt women's feelings come before their feelings?

What these people are basically asking is to take away freedoms from others. Where their feelings begin, the rights of others end. It's a completely self centered and narcissistic standpoint to think that the world should change and the nature of things should change just because of their poor little sensitive feelings. The horror of a picture of a penis must be terrifying for them. On the other hand, they are supposed to get excited over a penis when it suits.

The point I made about fatties earlier in this thread. What would happen if men demanded no pics of fat women? Many men find feet disgusting and wouldn't want to look at a picture of feet. Yet, plenty of female profiles show off their feet. So should the men who feel turned off from feet be considered if they demand it to not happen?

Women who demand no cock pics or else get ridiculed seem to be taking on an authoritarian stance.

As to whatfreedomdwarf1 said.

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This is where a LOT of men go horribly wrong. Seriously!

As a generality, men are visual creatures, women are mental (as in thinking) creatures.
Men will often get turned on by a visual image whereas women want intellectual discourse to stimulate their mind.
Men like pictures to excite them and seem to think that women are stimulated in the same way. WRONG!!
And although it isn't true across the board, in general, women hate the obvious in-your-face pics.

So all those inept men that think by flashing their knobs is a good thing, most women won't - hence the epic fail that we witness across most kink and dating sites.


It's considered WRONG or "inept" because it's a part of male sexuality that's not appropriate to most women but to others it is.

The only good thing you expressed in your post is that men are simply different, which needs to be understood and respected instead of ridiculed. Where you go wrong is to say that men are "wrong" and "inept" for being different. It's a silly standpoint to expect men to be like women because women said so. Just as it would be equally foolish for a man to say women should be more like men because men said so (patriarchy) or else they are wrong.

Women are less open minded compared to men when it comes to anything sexual, women are more judgmental compared to men when it comes to anything sexual, women are generally less adventurous compared to men when it comes to anything sexual, women are more likely to have a bug up their arse about doing anything sexual. Women are generally boring compared to men when it comes to anything sexual.

Men are generally less judgmental, more open minded, are less likely to have a bug up their arse when it comes to doing it...for this, men are WAY WAY WAY more fun than women.

Are women wrong for being different? Are women inept for being like this? No. It would be hypocritical if I thought they were. The whole problem here is that people keep thinking men are wrong or inept for being different compared to women. Therefore, men ARE THE ONLY ONES who are expected to change their ways to appease women. If it was men demanding women to change their ways that are different compared to men, we all know what it would be deemed as.

What people are really asking here is that everything should be in favour of women. Women come first, men come second.

I could say a lot more and reply to a lot more what others said. I just couldn't be fucked.






Cuckingcurious -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 4:06:33 PM)

Nice!




JanahX -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 4:15:17 PM)

One of the most interesting studies on women enjoying nude male pics, is Playgirl magazine.

From Wiki:

The magazine is mainly marketed to heterosexual women. Despite this, in 2003, Playgirl's then-editor-in-chief Michele Zipp admitted the magazine also attracted much gay readership. "It's 'Entertainment for Women' because there's no other magazine out there that caters to women in the way we do", she said. But she went on adding: "We love our gay readers as well, and the gay readership [of the magazine] is about 30%."[8]

Also, in 2003, Mark Graff, President of Trans Digital Media, the brand management firm for Playgirl TV, stated that 50% of Playgirl's readership are gay men.[9]

In a February 2010 interview with the Associated Press, Playgirl spokesman Daniel Nardico stated that he considers the magazine appealing to both men and women, although the audience is predominantly male.[10]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playgirl




MsLadySue -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 4:35:19 PM)

What is so f**king difficult to understand about how most women are turned off with cock shots until they know the man?

It's no double standard. Women have simply tried to state that in order to make a good first impression, viewing your cock isn't going to do it.

You just like argument for argument's sake. You repeat the same drivel in ten different ways thinking any of us care what you think.




respectmen -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 6:51:22 PM)

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You repeat the same drivel in ten different ways thinking any of us care what you think.


Yet, you expect men to care about what you think.

Gotta larf




MsLadySue -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 6:53:12 PM)

The ones with any integrity, common decency and self respect do.




respectmen -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 6:58:55 PM)

Women seem big on liberating female sexuality such as being against slut shaming. But when it comes to male sexuality, all that many women seem to do is hold prejudices and criticise it.

If you don't want to see a cock, don't come to such websites. It's really that simple. Don't expect a site to change for you. You are welcome to leave it.




respectmen -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:01:32 PM)

Many men find fin dommes and pro dommes to be a put off and just plain annoying. Good luck with men being listened to if men demanded them to not be this way on this site. We want it for free.




MsLadySue -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:17:08 PM)

The ladies responding on this forum have done so in an effort to inform the males, with an interest in finding the dominant they seek, the way they prefer to be treated. Telling them we prefer not to be sent cock pics because we're not interested in what's between their legs. We are interested in what's between their ears.

The fact you think this is a double standard is your problem. The men who want to be informed. will take heed of this information. The others will continue to blunder along on their merry way. Not a problem.

I have no intention of leaving this site since I enjoy reading the forums. I also found three fantastic subs/slaves on Collarspace who didn't send me unwanted cock pics, nor do they have any on their profile. So it just proves not all men think like you. Thank heaven.




Greta75 -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:29:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Women seem big on liberating female sexuality such as being against slut shaming. But when it comes to male sexuality, all that many women seem to do is hold prejudices and criticise it.

If you don't want to see a cock, don't come to such websites. It's really that simple. Don't expect a site to change for you. You are welcome to leave it.

Don't be silly. Are you a closet gay? We are simply informing you that women don't like cock pics. The only admirers you have for cock pics are gay men.

So if you want to keep entertaining gay men with cock pics, carry on with my blessings.

Maybe if you simply say your intention is to attract gay men and you aren't interested in sex with women at all. All of us women will leave you alone and let you enjoy flashing your cock at men all you want.





Wayward5oul -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:36:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Women seem big on liberating female sexuality such as being against slut shaming. But when it comes to male sexuality, all that many women seem to do is hold prejudices and criticise it.

If you don't want to see a cock, don't come to such websites. It's really that simple. Don't expect a site to change for you. You are welcome to leave it.

Don't be silly. Are you a closet gay? We are simply informing you that women don't like cock pics. The only admirers you have for cock pics are gay men.

So if you want to keep entertaining gay men with cock pics, carry on with my blessings.

Maybe if you simply say your intention is to attract gay men and you aren't interested in sex with women at all. All of us women will leave you alone and let you enjoy flashing your cock at men all you want.



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DesFIP -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:37:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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You repeat the same drivel in ten different ways thinking any of us care what you think.


Yet, you expect men to care about what you think.

Gotta larf




Men in general. Certainly not.
You in particular, hell no. If you did it would mean I was doing something wrong.

A man I care about, esteem and respect - certainly. And I have that from those men.




respectmen -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:44:55 PM)

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The fact you think this is a double standard is your problem.


lol the fact that you aren't whinging about women showing their private parts means there is a double standard. We never see bisexual or lesbian women complaining about women's private parts. A bisexual woman who is attracted to men and women, why only have a problem with a man's private parts and not a woman's too?

It seems like a whopper double standard to me.

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We are simply informing you that women don't like cock pics.


Yes, women seem to be overreacting. Why are they so damn butthurt over a pic? Seriously. It's just a fucking pic of a cock. So what? Is it giving them nightmares or something?

Men don't like it when women have a bug up their arse about sex and not being as open minded as men when it comes to sex. Can we demand women to change?

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The only admirers you have for cock pics are gay men


Utter nonsense. In my life time, many women have asked me for a pic of my cock. Women who I ended up meeting in real life. Women who are known in the local scenes and for that, are definitely not someone fake.

Go in fetlife sometime and click on a cock pic. There are plenty of women who comment them pics and click the "love button". Many of these women seem known in the local communities and attend gatherings.




respectmen -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 7:55:05 PM)

It's hard to see how men can be sexually liberated when women are always trying to make the rules on how we should run our sexuality. Once upon a time, women had more restrictions on their sexuality compared to men. These days, slut shaming seems to be too old fashion and behind the times. There seems to be more restriction on male sexuality than there is on female sexuality in year 2015. That's why male sexuality is always getting slammed in such sites like this while female sexuality is praised.




PandoraFoxxx -> RE: Can someone please tell the male subs (12/19/2015 8:12:44 PM)

Would you like a kleenex?




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