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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 7:56:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Open carry rules in Texas:

You can openly carry rifles and shotguns in most places. One big exception to open carry is any establishment with a Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission permit.

"The short version is, if you have a TABC permit, you can't allow people to bring their firearms on to the premises," TABC's Carolyn Beck says. The longer answer includes several exemptions, like allowing police officers and Concealed Handgun License holders to have their firearms in grocery stores or restaurants that serve alcohol.

Where you can't carry:

For bars or a businesses that make 51 percent of their money from the sale of alcohol, all guns are banned – even if you have a concealed handgun license.

Establishments with a valid "30.06" sign can also bar guns. Courthouses, federal buildings and school buildings and facilities also ban guns.

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Now who's the moron that said you can carry a gun in a bar or school in Texas?


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 8:02:06 AM   
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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 8:42:28 AM   
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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 1:48:18 PM   
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funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.


What does "Open Carry" have to do with it? If it wasn't an open carry state, ya think, just maybe, the shooter would have kept it concealed?

According to several police officers I've spoken with in Ohio (an open carry state), open carrying is about the stupidest thing you can do (regarding carrying a gun). It puts regular people on edge, unless they know you, and it also puts a target on your back if someone is up to no good in the area. The first thing someone is likely to do, is to take out risks, and another person with a gun, is a huge risk.


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 2:23:36 PM   
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Yes because the Federal Bureau of Investigation, ONLY investigates things right? They don't arrest anyone, right? I guess the Secret Service is ONLY a secret, right? I guess the Food and Drug Administration only handles the bills of food and drugs to government employees, right?


I've seen a lot of STUPID fucking posts on CS but this might just be the best EVAH.

Does your brain, such as it is, have any connection to your hands as they type this stupid shit?


Your the one that came up with the pathetic and uninformed argument that I was replying to. Seems the problem rests above your shoulders and below the hair line.....

You made yourself look like a fool by not examining the CDC's mission statement before commenting on it. An now your trying to backpedal out by attacking me with petty insults. Why not just admit I gave you a couple good arguments that you dont have anything to counter? Or concede that the CDC's mission would direct it to examine the firearm culture wthin this nation very closely.

You can't, because of your ego. Your ego has out stripped your common sense and ability to reason like a rational adult. Alittle over three years ago, some nut armed with an AR-15 blasted 20+ little children to pieces. Just a short time ago, some conservative nut went on a rampage at a Planned Parenthood clinic whom help much in the way of pro-life viewpoints. Not to long after a pair of terrorists attacked a location in California. In all three cases (and many, many more cases), existing firearm laws did not stop the problem. Nor did private citizens arms with firearms.

Maybe its time we have scientist example things with a fine tooth comb. Because the 'guardians' of the corrupted version of the 2nd amendment can not seem to find a policy that works. Or should I bring up a guy named Mr. Zimmerman whom murdered a black teen in cold blood after stalking him with a loaded gun, as your poster child for 'better ideas'?

Either concede, form a better argument, or be quiet.




The CDC's mission statement says it deals with national security. Ever think that a DISEASE might compromise that?

You are showing your mental DISEASE because I could seriously eat alphabet soup, drink some Magnesium Citrate and shit a better argument than that.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 2:58:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: joether

Yes because the Federal Bureau of Investigation, ONLY investigates things right? They don't arrest anyone, right? I guess the Secret Service is ONLY a secret, right? I guess the Food and Drug Administration only handles the bills of food and drugs to government employees, right?


I've seen a lot of STUPID fucking posts on CS but this might just be the best EVAH.

Does your brain, such as it is, have any connection to your hands as they type this stupid shit?


Your the one that came up with the pathetic and uninformed argument that I was replying to. Seems the problem rests above your shoulders and below the hair line.....

You made yourself look like a fool by not examining the CDC's mission statement before commenting on it. An now your trying to backpedal out by attacking me with petty insults. Why not just admit I gave you a couple good arguments that you dont have anything to counter? Or concede that the CDC's mission would direct it to examine the firearm culture wthin this nation very closely.

You can't, because of your ego. Your ego has out stripped your common sense and ability to reason like a rational adult. Alittle over three years ago, some nut armed with an AR-15 blasted 20+ little children to pieces. Just a short time ago, some conservative nut went on a rampage at a Planned Parenthood clinic whom help much in the way of pro-life viewpoints. Not to long after a pair of terrorists attacked a location in California. In all three cases (and many, many more cases), existing firearm laws did not stop the problem. Nor did private citizens arms with firearms.

Maybe its time we have scientist example things with a fine tooth comb. Because the 'guardians' of the corrupted version of the 2nd amendment can not seem to find a policy that works. Or should I bring up a guy named Mr. Zimmerman whom murdered a black teen in cold blood after stalking him with a loaded gun, as your poster child for 'better ideas'?

Either concede, form a better argument, or be quiet.




The CDC's mission statement says it deals with national security. Ever think that a DISEASE might compromise that?

You are showing your mental DISEASE because I could seriously eat alphabet soup, drink some Magnesium Citrate and shit a better argument than that.

What happened to you can't say a person has committed a crime unless they are convicted, guess that doesn't count fo 2nd class citizens like gun owners.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/23/2015 6:29:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether
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You can't, because of your ego. Your ego has out stripped your common sense and ability to reason like a rational adult.


I'll be honest, at first I thought someone was saying this to joether.

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ORIGINAL: joether
Alittle over three years ago, some nut armed with an AR-15 blasted 20+ little children to pieces. Just a short time ago, some conservative nut went on a rampage at a Planned Parenthood clinic whom help much in the way of pro-life viewpoints. Not to long after a pair of terrorists attacked a location in California. In all three cases (and many, many more cases), existing firearm laws did not stop the problem. Nor did private citizens arms with firearms.


You can't have it both ways; you can't demand people not have firearms and then complain when nobody with a firearm saves the day. There are many, many cases where an armed individual did save the day. One could argue that, given more firearms in the hands of The People, more would save the day. This is not what you want to hear. It is, however, what several sherriffs have urged, as I mentioned elsewhere:

http://www.wlwt.com/news/greater-cincinnati-sheriffs-urging-residents-to-get-concealed-carry-permits/36843586
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30688698/hendry-co-sheriff-urges-residents-to-get-concealed-weapons-permit

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ORIGINAL: joether
Maybe its time we have scientist example things with a fine tooth comb. Because the 'guardians' of the corrupted version of the 2nd amendment can not seem to find a policy that works. Or should I bring up a guy named Mr. Zimmerman whom murdered a black teen in cold blood after stalking him with a loaded gun, as your poster child for 'better ideas'?


Again, the 2nd Amendment is an individual right. Why do you keep circling back to this "corrupted version of the 2nd Amendment" argument? Also, a "policy that works" or "a policy that anti-rights advocates want"? The two are mutually exclusive.

As for Zimmerman/Martin, both sides made stupid decisions that night; Zimmerman made a stupid decision to follow Martin and Martin made a stupid decision to assault Zimmerman. But "murdered in cold blood"? Zimmerman defended himself against Martin.

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Either concede, form a better argument, or be quiet.


You'd be wise to do the same.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/24/2015 3:54:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.


What does "Open Carry" have to do with it? If it wasn't an open carry state, ya think, just maybe, the shooter would have kept it concealed?

According to several police officers I've spoken with in Ohio (an open carry state), open carrying is about the stupidest thing you can do (regarding carrying a gun). It puts regular people on edge, unless they know you, and it also puts a target on your back if someone is up to no good in the area. The first thing someone is likely to do, is to take out risks, and another person with a gun, is a huge risk.




Well the post she was responding to claimed "Also if a cop sees me walking down the street with a rifle he's going to stop and question me regardless if I'm legally allowed to carry." so perhaps she is really silly enough to believe that cops just ignore people with guns when it's an open carry state. And the cops you talked to were right, it is a very stupid thing to do unless you have a death wish.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/24/2015 11:52:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.


What does "Open Carry" have to do with it? If it wasn't an open carry state, ya think, just maybe, the shooter would have kept it concealed?

According to several police officers I've spoken with in Ohio (an open carry state), open carrying is about the stupidest thing you can do (regarding carrying a gun). It puts regular people on edge, unless they know you, and it also puts a target on your back if someone is up to no good in the area. The first thing someone is likely to do, is to take out risks, and another person with a gun, is a huge risk.



That is why we need more people carry concealed. Lull the crooks into a false sense of security and then BOOM. Seriously, if you want to solve the problem, you need a solution, not abatement. Like spraying a house for infestation, do the whole thing or they just go somewhere else.

Going to prison really IS a second chance. And throw all the dope dealers out, make room for politicians and crooked cops.

I am not going off on another rant about the garbage walking around that needs to be shot as you have all read it before. You are human until you cross a certain line and that is it. Harsh ? Yes. Can I think of anything harsher ? I will try me best.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/24/2015 12:09:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.


What does "Open Carry" have to do with it? If it wasn't an open carry state, ya think, just maybe, the shooter would have kept it concealed?

According to several police officers I've spoken with in Ohio (an open carry state), open carrying is about the stupidest thing you can do (regarding carrying a gun). It puts regular people on edge, unless they know you, and it also puts a target on your back if someone is up to no good in the area. The first thing someone is likely to do, is to take out risks, and another person with a gun, is a huge risk.




Well the post she was responding to claimed "Also if a cop sees me walking down the street with a rifle he's going to stop and question me regardless if I'm legally allowed to carry." so perhaps she is really silly enough to believe that cops just ignore people with guns when it's an open carry state. And the cops you talked to were right, it is a very stupid thing to do unless you have a death wish.

The shooting that happened in Colorado springs was exactly what I described.
three dead not including the shooter.
It was in the news.
ALtho I understand that you dont keep up on facts.
so you can slide that up your nose and hammer it home.


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/24/2015 11:27:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/12/24/florida-restaurant-employee-shoots-kills-robber-masked/77880474/
Florida restaurant employee shoots, kills masked gunman

An employee shot and killed a masked gunman as he attempted to rob a Miramar, Fla., restaurant, according to police.

Miramar police spokeswoman Tania Rues says the employee of Captain Max Seafood restaurant used his own weapon to stop the attempted robbery Wednesday, the Naples Daily News reported.

Rues says the suspect, who was wearing a ski mask and gloves, walked into the restaurant and waved a gun. After an exchange of words, the employee fired several shots and killed the suspect, Naples Daily News reports.

Rues told the publication that no one else was injured. She cautioned people against taking matters into their own hands.

The investigation is ongoing, police say.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 5:12:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.


What does "Open Carry" have to do with it? If it wasn't an open carry state, ya think, just maybe, the shooter would have kept it concealed?

According to several police officers I've spoken with in Ohio (an open carry state), open carrying is about the stupidest thing you can do (regarding carrying a gun). It puts regular people on edge, unless they know you, and it also puts a target on your back if someone is up to no good in the area. The first thing someone is likely to do, is to take out risks, and another person with a gun, is a huge risk.




Well the post she was responding to claimed "Also if a cop sees me walking down the street with a rifle he's going to stop and question me regardless if I'm legally allowed to carry." so perhaps she is really silly enough to believe that cops just ignore people with guns when it's an open carry state. And the cops you talked to were right, it is a very stupid thing to do unless you have a death wish.

The shooting that happened in Colorado springs was exactly what I described.
three dead not including the shooter.
It was in the news.
ALtho I understand that you dont keep up on facts.
so you can slide that up your nose and hammer it home.




Well if it happened once, then it always happens that way. Nice to know. What a shame for the kids who have died because they thought waving a gun around was a good idea, that they don't live in your fantasy world.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 5:21:12 PM   
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funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.

That was in Colorado, not relevant to how it is done in TX.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 5:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		And again, this isnt just about texas, so you do not tell me what i can and cant say. its about an open carry state, and that is part of the discussion. Simply because you dont like it, means diddly squat.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 6:04:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
funny, when someone phoned the police to report a man walking down the street with a gun, they were told, open carry is allowed, and nothing was done. Ended up with three people being killed.


What does "Open Carry" have to do with it? If it wasn't an open carry state, ya think, just maybe, the shooter would have kept it concealed?

According to several police officers I've spoken with in Ohio (an open carry state), open carrying is about the stupidest thing you can do (regarding carrying a gun). It puts regular people on edge, unless they know you, and it also puts a target on your back if someone is up to no good in the area. The first thing someone is likely to do, is to take out risks, and another person with a gun, is a huge risk.




Well the post she was responding to claimed "Also if a cop sees me walking down the street with a rifle he's going to stop and question me regardless if I'm legally allowed to carry." so perhaps she is really silly enough to believe that cops just ignore people with guns when it's an open carry state. And the cops you talked to were right, it is a very stupid thing to do unless you have a death wish.

The shooting that happened in Colorado springs was exactly what I described.
three dead not including the shooter.
It was in the news.
ALtho I understand that you dont keep up on facts.
so you can slide that up your nose and hammer it home.




Well if it happened once, then it always happens that way. Nice to know. What a shame for the kids who have died because they thought waving a gun around was a good idea, that they don't live in your fantasy world.


It would be nice if you had a clue, you might put up a rational post for once.
Are you building up to one???


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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 6:58:27 PM   
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And again, this isnt just about texas, so you do not tell me what i can and cant say. its about an open carry state, and that is part of the discussion. Simply because you dont like it, means diddly squat.

I didn't say you couldn't say it, I just said that he was talking about Texas and you "refuted " his statement by talking about something from another state, what happens in Co is not relevant to what happens in Tx. And you forgot to mention that do to factors aside from him carring a firearm the cops sent someone to check it out but they did not arrive in time. If he had not drawn attention to himself by carring open they would have gotten there even later.
Here you can carry open, but if there is someone like you who gets upset over someone carring open you can be charged with disturbing the peace.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 7:39:01 PM   
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What happened to you can't say a person has committed a crime unless they are convicted, guess that doesn't count fo 2nd class citizens like gun owners.


Our justice system is well bought and paid for. The guilty go free everyday, if they can afford it, while innocents are forced into plea deals because they have no hope of fighting the system.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 8:18:48 PM   
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What happened to you can't say a person has committed a crime unless they are convicted, guess that doesn't count fo 2nd class citizens like gun owners.


Our justice system is well bought and paid for. The guilty go free everyday, if they can afford it, while innocents are forced into plea deals because they have no hope of fighting the system.

So it is ok to proclaim someone who has been proven innoccent (and didn't write a book bragging about how he did it) to be a murderer when it was demonstrated that he acted in self defense just because he had a gun and Joe doesn't like guns?

Did you miss the context or do you consider gun owners to be 2nd class citizens? Do you think one miscarrage of justice invalidates all of the times they get it right.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/26/2015 10:49:41 PM   
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Status: online 		As a gun owner, I don't think of myself as a second class citizen, no.

But a jury not having enough evidence to convict is not the same as clearing a man's name, especially if there is overwhelming evidence of guilt that the jury never sees because of loopholes and technicalities.

Do you think there isn't a special place in hell for the Casey Anthonys and OJs of the world? (Neither of which used a gun, btw.)

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 8:33:33 AM   
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As a gun owner, I don't think of myself as a second class citizen, no.

But a jury not having enough evidence to convict is not the same as clearing a man's name, especially if there is overwhelming evidence of guilt that the jury never sees because of loopholes and technicalities.

Do you think there isn't a special place in hell for the Casey Anthonys and OJs of the world? (Neither of which used a gun, btw.)

Yes, particularly after OJ wrote his book rubbing his guilt in the face of the whole world. But to the case that started this phase of the conversation the prosecution proved Zimmermans innocence. The judge could have given a directed innocent verdict without the defense ever saying a word. You know full well that the public was flooded with false information about the case. Jacksons claim that Martin was shot three times in the back of the head, NBCs doctoring the photos and editing the 911 call to change the meaning of it completely, ignoreing the proof that there would have been no confrontation if Martin hadn't doubled back and attacked Zimmerman. Zimmerman could have handled it better but the real problem is that people like Joe invested so much in railroading Zimmerman that they can't let go of it.

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