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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 3:22:28 PM

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But Martin was Black, so he should have been allowed to beat his White, privileged oppressor to death.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 3:26:04 PM

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Actually there is another thing, Zimmerman is not White. Not Black but somewhat Colored. I have seen a shitload of photos and some of them he looks like half and half and in others he looks White or near so.

You can do that with a photo editing program, you vary the gamma on the blue channel. With my ancient version of Photoshop I can make day look like night, Black look like White or vice versa, and this program is about twenty years old. I am scared of the new versions !

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 4:12:11 PM

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Actually there is another thing, Zimmerman is not White. Not Black but somewhat Colored. I have seen a shitload of photos and some of them he looks like half and half and in others he looks White or near so.

You can do that with a photo editing program, you vary the gamma on the blue channel. With my ancient version of Photoshop I can make day look like night, Black look like White or vice versa, and this program is about twenty years old. I am scared of the new versions !

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He is Hispanic.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 4:24:53 PM

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Yes, and Hispanics have varying degrees of skin pigment, much more that most USians because of the heavy, White European influx that has not interbred yet. there were alot more dark skinned in the South, and in South and Central America.

There are Mexicans with blonde hair and blue eyes, I met one and the carpet matches the drapes.

But the point here is that the media tried to paint him White. They tried to make it a racial issue. That is what they do and the government loves it because it serves to divide and conquer.

Well I do not take to that White guilt shit. My family never enslaved anyone, in fact they got off the boat well after slavery was abolished. I don't owe anyone a goddamn thing. But they try to instill White guilt so that peole feel sorry for the little hoods, ganmgbangers, and rappers dragging a kid down the street can't hear the screams because their stereo is going "Fuck the police" or just "BOOM mufuka BOOM mufuka"

Yeah, you are equal motherfucker. I am not equal.

This planet can go fuck itself, because this plague is all over it. All the same under the skin but a thousand years from now they can not only tell your race, but which side of the hill you were born on. Bunch of fucking lies.

And the problem is that the lies prevail.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 4:34:55 PM

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Yes, and Hispanics have varying degrees of skin pigment, much more that most USians because of the heavy, White European influx that has not interbred yet. there were alot more dark skinned in the South, and in South and Central America.

There are Mexicans with blonde hair and blue eyes, I met one and the carpet matches the drapes.

But the point here is that the media tried to paint him White. They tried to make it a racial issue. That is what they do and the government loves it because it serves to divide and conquer.

Well I do not take to that White guilt shit. My family never enslaved anyone, in fact they got off the boat well after slavery was abolished. I don't owe anyone a goddamn thing. But they try to instill White guilt so that peole feel sorry for the little hoods, ganmgbangers, and rappers dragging a kid down the street can't hear the screams because their stereo is going "Fuck the police" or just "BOOM mufuka BOOM mufuka"

Yeah, you are equal motherfucker. I am not equal.

This planet can go fuck itself, because this plague is all over it. All the same under the skin but a thousand years from now they can not only tell your race, but which side of the hill you were born on. Bunch of fucking lies.

And the problem is that the lies prevail.

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Yes they photoshopped tomake him look white, they edited the 911 call to make it into something it wasn't and they edited the police video to eliminate where it showed his injuries.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 5:28:55 PM

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Problem is he became a target. He had alot of problems after that, and though I would say he is possibly somewhat of a hothead, that is no excuse for all of this coming all the sudden when for years he had no problems at all.

He should have moved to Texas, or maybe Utah. He would be like a fucking hero there. Racist ? Yup. but while he isn't really White, he is White enough. And he does not take to skulking around in other people's backyards. He would be welcome around here, as long as he has good aim.

Actually Zimm did have a few minor problems, like an olady he would not take shit from. But this did not revoke his CCW, so she must have been really fuil of shit. Thing about Women, I used to like them but now my advice is get your own place, go to hers to fuck her, never give her a key or move in or have any joint bank accounts or share a car or anything. Most you do is cook her dinner, because we all know that Men are better cooks. And no paying her cellphone bill or any of that. seriously, "your cellphone was on when I met you". Now if you happen to need money maybe I can spare fifty bucks, but use it for what you want, crack, douche, I don't fucking care. When you want money. Either I have it to spare or I don't.

But people do not do it that way until they are like in their 50s.

So they took some prior allegations from some crazy bitch (they all are) that went nowhere and tried to paint him as an abuser. AND WHITE !

If it was me, once I dropped Marti I would have simply drove away. But that is me. And that is another thing, if it was murder, he would never have made a phone call to 911. Really, let's just call 911 and say "There is this N_____ skulking around and I don't like the looks of him so I am going to orchestrate a scenario whereby I can kill him legally".

Do these people REALLY think that this is what happened ? Actually, no they don't. they get told what to think by the scumbag media and governemnt.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 5:38:30 PM

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It's a nice night out, and you walk to the corner store for a delicious Watermelon Arizona drink and some Skittles.
Someone you've never seen before in your life, coincidentally of a different race, starts following you, stalking you even.
Do you lead that person to your home? Do you run away? Or do you stand your ground?

Were it me instead of Treyvon, Zimmerman would've never made it to court.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 6:24:07 PM

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You have also been observed trespassing in people's backyards n shit, looking like you are looking for something to steal.

Or did you forget that part ?

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 6:40:16 PM

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Allegedly. But a person's actions can be easily misconstrued, or simply lied about. Treyvon was never the one charged with a crime, and Zimmerman never had the legal authority to pursue him.

But put yourself in the boy's shoes, and you'll understand that the situation was fucked up from the start, because Zimmerman chose to pursue him. Treyvon acted in self-defense, just as most people would in the same situation.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 7:13:59 PM

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Were it me instead of Treyvon, Zimmerman would've never made it to court.

Given that you're white, I wonder if Zimmerman would even have approached you.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 7:19:39 PM

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Were it me instead of Treyvon, Zimmerman would've never made it to court.

Given that you're white, I wonder if Zimmerman would even have approached you.

Probably. I look kinda shady. Always up to something.

Lol made ya look

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 8:07:03 PM

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It's a nice night out, and you walk to the corner store for a delicious Watermelon Arizona drink and some Skittles.
Someone you've never seen before in your life, coincidentally of a different race, starts following you, stalking you even.
Do you lead that person to your home? Do you run away? Or do you stand your ground?

Were it me instead of Treyvon, Zimmerman would've never made it to court.

You'd assault someone for following you? Isn't that a bit excessive?

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 8:12:45 PM

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Is following someone the 911 operator has already told you not to excessive?

Do I have a reasonable fear of bodily harm because this person is following me? This person who left his car blocks away and has followed me ever since?

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 8:35:00 PM

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I've been there before though. Walking to my car after the club closed, in full drag, nonetheless. Being followed and harassed.

It's the only time in my life I've ever drawn a gun on somebody. I didn't have to use it, thank God. But I know that I could have.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 9:14:48 PM

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Big deal. We've all been harassed. Contrary to your assertion, Zimmerman didn't need legal authority, or even permission, to walk on a public sidewalk. Trayvon made the terminally fatal mistake to make it battery, thus improving the gene pool.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 9:15:43 PM

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I've been there before though. Walking to my car after the club closed, in full drag, nonetheless. Being followed and harassed.

It's the only time in my life I've ever drawn a gun on somebody. I didn't have to use it, thank God. But I know that I could have.

I've been followed before although not dressed in drag. I never felt the need to "clear leather" (or kydex) but I wasn't being harassed either. Turn and confront ("can I help you with something?"), sure, but draw? Not sure what your laws are but in Arizona that's an assault charge, not to mention it escalates the situation. Granted I wasn't there in your, uhh, shoes and it's easy to judge from an armchair. I'd like to hear more about your situation, however.

My CCW instructor drilled it into our heads: ability, opportunity, and intent. If you have all three, you're (usually) justified in drawing (and potentially using) a firearm.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 9:23:56 PM

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It's a nice night out, and you walk to the corner store for a delicious Watermelon Arizona drink and some Skittles.
Someone you've never seen before in your life, coincidentally of a different race, starts following you, stalking you even.
Do you lead that person to your home? Do you run away? Or do you stand your ground?

Were it me instead of Treyvon, Zimmerman would've never made it to court.

Come on, Martin lost him, and Zimmerman never tried to close with him.
There would have been no confrontation if Martin, after losing Zimmerman hadn't doubled back and attacked him. Zimmerman was heading to his car when Martin attacked him. Even the prosecution admitted that Zimmerman was heading toward his car when the confrontation occured. Martin may have felt threatened but we will never know because he decided to attack Zimmerman. Zimmerman never left the sidewalk of his gated community. Do you mean that if you saw a stranger messing around your neighbors house you would just ignore it because he might just be on his way home from buying skittles and tea. Or would you call the cops and keep an eye on them from a distance, because in spite of all the propaganda that is exactly what Zimmerman did, Martin closed with him, not the other way around. I would handle it better than you or Zimmerman either one. If Martin had just asked what Zimmerman was doing and waited for an answer rather than attacking him he would still be alive. You don't call the cops somewhere if you are planning on shooting someone. Zimmerman clearly did not want violence, Martin chose to ingage in violence.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 9:26:21 PM

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Allegedly. But a person's actions can be easily misconstrued, or simply lied about. Treyvon was never the one charged with a crime, and Zimmerman never had the legal authority to pursue him.

But put yourself in the boy's shoes, and you'll understand that the situation was fucked up from the start, because Zimmerman chose to pursue him. Treyvon acted in self-defense, just as most people would in the same situation.

Zimmerman did not pursue him, he observed from a distance and there is zero evidence that he ever tried to close with Martin. You think Zimmerman lied because that is what you need to make him a cold blooded killer.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 9:32:12 PM

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Is following someone the 911 operator has already told you not to excessive?

Do I have a reasonable fear of bodily harm because this person is following me? This person who left his car blocks away and has followed me ever since?

wrong again. You are qouting one of the many myths about the case.
The 911 operator did not tell him not to follow, she said he didn't have to, big difference. About the same time, also in FL, two men were kicking in a woman's door, she asked if she could shoot them and the operator said "I can't tell you to do that" she shot them anyway and was well within the law.
Not telling a person thay have to do something and telling them not to do it isn't the same thing. The myth that he was told not to comes from the NBC report that made numerous changes to what was actually said to make him look guilty.

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RE: CDC and Firearms - 12/27/2015 9:34:07 PM

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I don't think Zimmerman made the decision to use his gun until he felt his life was in danger. I do believe that he was responsible for the events leading up to that point though.

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