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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Funny thing about science, when used to prove or disprove some religious theory, it often bites the researcher in the ass.
Two cases in particular have come to be of great interest of mine.
1) Israelites as a distinct genetic group
It is the long held belief of the Jewish and Christian faith that the Israelite migration from Egypt to the holy land is historic fact. Led by Moses, then by Joshua, the Israelites moved into the Promised Land and basically massacred the pre existing cultures.
Genetics, and indeed, archaeology and anthropology have disproved the genocide theory, instead showing that the Israelites, Canaanites and Philistines were all one culture prior to the influx of a small group. It was not so much as a genocide, but a conversion of the locals to the Jewish faith. Genetically, they are all the same people, with negligible genetic influences or drift.
Being genetically, more or less, “all the same people” doesn’t discount the exodus from Egypt, nor the battles the jewish people subsequently fought. Unless im missing something from what youre saying, and I very well might be, that’s roughly like saying the civil war didn’t occur because we’ll all from European stock.
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Egyptian hieroglyphs do tell of a group that left Egypt, but it was small in number and definitely not slaves but a semi independent culture.
Try this instead: http://creation.com/egyptian-history-and-the-biblical-record-a-perfect-match
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The biblical plagues are even referred to, however the dating of the writings in Egypt correspond with the fall of the Minoan culture after the massive volcanic eruption on Thera, and the resulting tsunami. Now these plagues can be directly attributed to the climate change caused by the eruption in the region.
So, it was some wise guy that took a natural events results and attributed it to some divine intervention so that Moses could lead his people to freedom. To put it bluntly, Moses had a damn good spin doctor on his staff.
What you advanced there is a theory, not a disproof. Though this article doesn’t touch on your specific one, it does so with another “natural explanation”, and there is nevertheless good insight in it:
http://creation.com/the-ten-plagues-of-egypt
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Brings us to case two:
The Mormons….
This (and many other reasons too) is why on the whole in mainstream christianity, the mormons are understood to be a cult, along with the Jehovah witnesses too.
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Finally, there is science beyond genetics.
I often hear claims the Earth is only about 8000 years old, based on the biblical accounts of who fathered who, as well as the ages of the patriarchs of the early Jewish people.
There is also some who claim that ancient stone tools have been found imbedded in ancient coal deposits that have been strip mined in the 20th century, as a way to prove that coal is not a fossil fuel as that there is no way it could have been produced hundreds of millions of years ago.
Research on the Canadian shield shows that the now flat, bed rock was once actually mountains. The Appalachian mountians predate the all the mountain ranges in the western hemisphere by a good million years, and then there is the fact that Mt Everest is still growing, due to the fact that India is still trying to muscle its mass into Asia.
Bottom line, while science has not proved or disproved the existence of God, it has proved that 90% of the history presented in religious texts are little more than myth.
One last point, the flood story predates the time of Moses by about 90000 years.
There are assumptions involved with radiometric and carbon dating. Whenever I hear anyone throw around numbers like “millions of years” I take that to mean they might not be aware of those assumptions and the problems with them, or if they are, they chose to conveniently ignore them
They are addressed here:
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/radiometric-dating
https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/dating-methods/.
Lastly, I have a study text with a 70 page archaeological supplement, with 130 entries of finds that confirm, are in support of, jibe with, or are somehow positively linked to the biblical accounts. That’s pretty substantial for an otherwise broad based text. But to close on that point, a quote from one of the links I shared above seems to take issue with your “90%”:
“`Dr Clifford Wilson, former Director of the Australian Institute of Archaeology, said it best:
“I know of no finding in archaeology that’s properly confirmed which is in opposition to the scriptures. The Bible is the most accurate history textbook the world has ever seen.”
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