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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 7:53:01 PM   
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What's her being overweight have to do with anything? lol


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 7:54:55 PM   
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I grew up in a family with a quaint ritual that would likely stun today's millennials. Before any family celebration at my grandparents' house, one of us kids was deputized to venture into the TV room and--brace yourselves, young'uns--take the phone off the hook.

Yep, we deliberately signaled our unavailability to callers so that we could focus on the loved ones sharing the feast.

Crazy, huh?

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 7:55:02 PM   
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Yes, sharing that Minion meme is more important than paying attention to the flesh and blood person with you that you may want to fuck.

Nope, I have zero social media accounts. No facebook, No twitter, No Instagram, nothing.

I run two voluntarily social clubs and am an event organiser. I've always got loads of incoming SMS asking me questions about events. My job is also commission based, so I got inbounding from clients, always asking me questions.

So to me, it's important that I am prompt in replying them.

I don't know, I never have a problem with any dates getting upset with me about this. Also, I often date men who are very busy on their phones too, and needs to keep checking for emails from their own company. So we are usually on the same page.

I mean, like-minded people will be attracted to like-minded people.

I do not even look at collarspace on my phone ever. That's only when I am at my desk computer.

The previous boss I worked for who is American by the way. There were no off limits. Even if I am on vacation, even if it's after midnight, if something needs to be done urgently, he contacts me, I'm used to being on-call 24/7. And I've met alot of working people who are the same as me, at least in my country. Off day is no reason or public holiday is no reason to be uncontactable for work. The culture is like that here, so if you want your work-life balance, and shut off your phone during family time or whatever, you lose out on jobs.


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 8:04:27 PM   
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I had a friend that got up and walked out on a date because she wouldn't get off her phone. It took her 30 minutes to figure out he had gone. (and he's the extremely successful guy). But, he was trying to talk TO her rather than AT her, which is the OPs style.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 8:05:41 PM   
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But it's just as likely here that when a person checks their phone, they're blocking you on whatever app/site they met you on. And you won't know until you've parted company.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 8:08:30 PM   
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But it's just as likely here that when a person checks their phone, they're blocking you on whatever app/site they met you on. And you won't know until you've parted company.

It has never happened to me.
I guess I've always dated people of my own kind. I mean, I don't usually date people who have differences from me. There would be no chemistry. The initial filtering conversations would already give a good idea on all that.

So on work value side, the men I see have always understood as they have the same work etiquette.

I mean, there is many times a guy got to take a work conference call in the middle of our date. Even if I'm with girlfriends, that happens. It's an international working world, with international working time. So if the conference is on another country's working time, then sometime that night, they need to get to work.

I guess you need to personally be in such a job to understand it when it happens to other people.

It could be dinner, back to bedroom, one hour conference call, while I entertain myself with TV or whatever, then sex later. During dinner, both of us will probably be chatting with each other and checking and replying texts too. It's very multi-tasking, I can totally listen to everything his saying and response verbally with no problem, while texting.

One of my most regular fuck buddy always has his laptop in bed with him, and it's open infront of me, his also on comm based job, international hours, as all his clients are from different countries and he got to respond to them quick. Am I gonna get mad at that? No! It's his livelihood. Why would I get mad at him for just doing his job? And any man who gets mad at me for just doing my job is a jerk. Unless his gonna supply me with an income, it would be stupid for him to get angry with me.

And he types all his emails infront of my eyes while I am resting on his shoulders anyway. And it's all work.

The last time, in the middle of my vacation, I had a client that threaten to go to someone else, unless I get her all the info she needs pronto, and this same guy was so understanding, he was just like, go do what you need to do. And I spent 2 days back and forth with this client, fulfilling all her demands, and I mean, it was worth it, case closed. And he was so supportive. Never mad that he took time off for me, and I end up having to use our time for work.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 8:54:46 PM   
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How can you agree to be someone's Dom when you haven't even met in r/l for the first time?

Wth?

What is your kink? Being a nutritionist and body builder for overweight women? Is that what fit people call themselves now? Doms?

This post is laughable.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 10:23:04 PM   
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Has this ever happen to you?

I met an overweight female submissive who wants to change. I agree to be her Dom and have her come to my place.


She came to your place for a first meet? Red flag.
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I begin lecturing her on body building and, get this, she starts checking her cellphone while I'm talking about myself! I have learned a lot and I want to teach her and she needs to listen!


Clear case of unexplained expectations. Lots of younger folks do not see cellphone checking as rude. This is the point at which a real Dom would have explained that not checking cellphones is one of your rules.
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How rude! She complains that I check my cellphone while she talks but that's different because she isn't trying to teach me anything.


So your words are pearls of wisdom, but here are not worth listening to because, after all, they're only feedback that would help you understand her and how to drive your relationship.
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It would be the same thing as going into a college classroom and checking your cellphone while the Professor is lecturing. It's just plain rude!


Correct. And you checking her cellphone while she's talking is like a prof checking his phone while students are asking questions. Not only is it rude, but as a professor, he should be above that.
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Okay. So you actually got a challenge and you're not up to meeting one. Here's how to do it.

1. WHY did she challenge you? It's because she has an issue that she considers genuine.
2. What should you do about it? Review her point. If it's legit (it is), you should either change your ways or drop your rule.
3. Announce to her your decision. Expect to have to explain it, especially since you've already lost some credibility in her eyes.
4. She has several options. She can accept it, question it further, make a counterproposal, or reject it altogether. If she rejects it, expect that she may be through with you. If she makes a counterproposal, listen to it and put away your damn phone.
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I edited this to apologize for venting. I didn't mean to make this sound like a vent.
I wanted to know if anyone else have come across this - lecturing someone and they check their cellphones while lecturing. It's so frustrating!



If they did, I'd explain that I'm not cool with it.

Why did you title this "women are so rude these days?" You're implying:

1. Women do this and men don't.
2. Women generally do this, based on the actions of one woman.


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 11:34:05 PM   
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Dating has become strange. I can't remember where I was, but I saw a young couple sitting at a table somewhere recently, (wracking my brain to remember where!) It was like a cafe or something... Anyway, they were both just sitting opposit each other in silence, ghostly glowing faces burried in their smartphones. >_<
Makes me laugh.
I'm guilty too, but I dare say I'd try and restrain myself on a date.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/27/2015 11:36:38 PM   
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I wouldn't check my cellphone if some dude was lecturing me.

I'd put in my ear plugs and pick up a good book. Much more civilised!

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 12:03:18 AM   
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She came to your place for a first meet? Red flag.

You're leaping to the conclusion that this little vignette actually took place in the real world and wasn't just a fabrication of his fertile imagination as another opportunity to troll the forum.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 2:42:56 AM   
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Nope, I have zero social media accounts.



Well, you have at least one. Message boards are a type of social media.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 2:48:11 AM   
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I grew up in a family with a quaint ritual that would likely stun today's millennials. Before any family celebration at my grandparents' house, one of us kids was deputized to venture into the TV room and--brace yourselves, young'uns--take the phone off the hook.

Yep, we deliberately signaled our unavailability to callers so that we could focus on the loved ones sharing the feast.

Crazy, huh?


We have a big ol' heavy black rotary phone in our living room. It's often a highlight of those younger than I to try it out. I usually show them how to rotary dial, and they get a kick out of the "retro" ring on an incoming call. I don't think I've brought up the busy signal, though. It's so interesting to think that the busy signal doesn't even really exist, anymore, does it?

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 3:04:27 AM   
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Well, you have at least one. Message boards are a type of social media.

I never access forums or message board on my phone ever, or even my ipad or laptop, things that are portable, I don't use them for anything but work and family, mostly work.
So that doesn't count.

I keep them pretty "kink free", as I don't want to be outed if my brother or who-ever borrows any of these things for whatever reason so there is nothing incriminating in them but work stuffs.

I have a separate phone number for fuck buddies, which is a phone I don't use unless I am going out with them. And it's a basic phone. Not even a smart phone, so can't do shit with it.

I think end of the day, usually if I explain to the date what I do for work, and what is going on, I've never met a date who got upset about me about it. First of all, if he does, I think his insane. And usually I filter for sanity before I ever even agree to have dinner with the guy.

I'm pretty good at pressing people's buttons, so if a guy is crazy, it's easy to bring it out quite quick. Plus, I'm blunt and candid upfront always, so I always tell a man how I'm like, take it or leave it. That filters too. It's usually quite an interrogation before we even reach dinner stage. And most men will be turned off by that, being probed so much. Those that still want to take me for dinner after, usually works out really well, it means, they already like me the way I am and never took offense.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 3:13:19 AM   
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I've checked my cellphone many times while in conversations, and people do that with me. It doesn't bother me at all. Guess I live in a world, where it's normal to multi-task.


Yes, sharing that Minion meme is more important than paying attention to the flesh and blood person with you that you may want to fuck.


There are oodle of reasons to check a cell phone other than posting on social media. Personally, I try not to do it during conversations, but it happens. Alarms and reminders, weather and emergency alerts, notifications from apps that remind me to water my plants or take my vitamins, etc. Actually, I think cell phones are fantastic in that way. I used to have post-it notes quite literally all over the doors of my house reminding me to, among other things, water my plants. The phone takes care of that. The phone has replaced my alarm clock, my camera, a white noise machine in the bedroom, my address book and calendar, the many post it notes I had stuck around the house, my recipe cards, my checkbook and deposit slips, my star chart, my AAA maps in the glove compartment, my CDs, my DVD player, my grocery list written on the back of a used envelope, the member cards I used to carry on my keychain or in my wallet, textbooks, a set of encyclopedias, the morning newspaper, my crossword puzzle book, my planner, and...oh yeah,...the phone.

Checking a cell phone while having a conversation with someone is rude, yes. But it's a pet peeve of mine when it's automatically assumed that checking one's cell phone means that whatever that person is doing is frivolous. And, if that person happens to find joy in sharing something like a Minion* meme that she finds funny, then perhaps it does, indeed, hold a level of importance to her that someone else wouldn't feel and who are we to say that's wrong? I understand there are those that rely too much on the rush of social media for their sense of self-worth, but really, some of those memes are just funny.

(*Not Minion memes. Not ever. I hate those things.)



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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 5:11:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

Has this ever happen to you?

I met an overweight female submissive who wants to change. I agree to be her Dom and have her come to my place. I begin lecturing her on body building and, get this, she starts checking her cellphone while I'm talking about myself! I have learned a lot and I want to teach her and she needs to listen!

How rude! She complains that I check my cellphone while she talks but that's different because she isn't trying to teach me anything. It would be the same thing as going into a college classroom and checking your cellphone while the Professor is lecturing. It's just plain rude!

*****
I edited this to apologize for venting. I didn't mean to make this sound like a vent.
I wanted to know if anyone else have come across this - lecturing someone and they check their cellphones while lecturing. It's so frustrating!




Nope, hasn't happened to me, but I talk to people, I don't go and lecture them.

So basically you are doing personal training but you don't charge in exchange of her being a submissive, so you're paying just not in coin...

Since you claim you learned a lot, how about taking some clients and being a personal trainer, however they won't pay for getting lectured and bored, they pay for being inspired. If you're not able to inspire somebody who doesn't even pay for it, however, that could be a problem.

And maybe the lady was teaching you something, something essential, like how to not treat women. If you want people to listen to you, maybe listen to them without checking your cell phone is an idea. As for your comparison with a "professor" - well they also don't tend to check their cell phones if the students talk to them.

Sounds you're without a sub there as for her submission most likely has nothing to do with boring lectures.

Btw all the good personal trainers tend to listen a lot, they all ask about medical history, previous injuries, diet, supplements and such, because they focus on fitness and avoiding injuries, not just simple weight loss. A trainer who wouldn't be interested or listening when I tell him I need to be careful with my ankles due to previous injuries and just drones on about his perceived greatness, I would just walk away, I find my health more important than their ego. Maybe the woman felt the same way?

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 10:19:59 AM   
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If you want to take me out to dinner, you turn off your cell phone. You can check it if it vibrates, you can go outside to make a call(or even a hallway)
If you cant be without a phone for an hour, Im really really sorry for you.
I do not allow anyone to interfere with MY personal time if you need to take a call so badly...Ill eat with you in your office. Im adaptable.
If you wanna surf the web or text someone, or take calls dont invite me out for dinner.
My business is my lifeline. However if I have to discuss an issue with a customer, or a supplier, or a shipper. I do it, before I have to eat/enjoy my life.
That being said, Im not totally ignorant to being on call as a reason to take a call in the middle of dinner.
Manys the time, ive sat thru a enjoyable evening with having to diagnose security issues as they crop up. shit happens. Rudeness isnt an emergency I will deal with.

In the OPs case, I would have been calling my bestie saying," oy have a listen to this twat"....but then again, I am going on his previous posting history.




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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 10:24:24 AM   
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Well, I think the key statement is this...

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I begin lecturing her on body building and, get this, she starts checking her cellphone while I'm talking about myself!




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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 10:56:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Well, I think the key statement is this...

quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I begin lecturing her on body building and, get this, she starts checking her cellphone while I'm talking about myself!




Thats what made me laugh .....and prompted my first response.
well that and the part,
quote:

I have learned a lot and I want to teach her and she needs to listen!

I could argue that he hasnt learned a damn thing since he joined here. Except from someone who is obviously winding him up into believing all has to do is bully every fat submissive he thinks he can change.



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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/28/2015 11:18:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JanahX

How can you agree to be someone's Dom when you haven't even met in r/l for the first time?

Wth?

What is your kink? Being a nutritionist and body builder for overweight women? Is that what fit people call themselves now? Doms?

This post is laughable.


Oh, he's been here before ranting about how he wants to "fix"'overweight women by lecturing them.

He's a total twat.

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