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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/29/2015 6:46:09 AM   
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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/30/2015 8:17:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		However although you're a fitness instructor, you aren't competent to teach weight loss.

One of the largest components in that is emotions, and comfort eating. So when you lecture and browbeat women for your own kink, you are deliberately setting them up to fail. You are causing them to experience various negative emotions for which they will seek comfort. And the odds are that comfort will come from food. Congratulations on making their problems worse.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/30/2015 8:19:09 AM   
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I checked my phone while reading your post.


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 11:49:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I oogled MistresskittyBBW whilst working out a reply, pity us all :( but verified so there Is that I guess..unlike him but methinks he is who he says.
And ran to my fridge once, I really should move it into my livingroom, for a top up of cheap bed wetter chardonnay

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1. What sage like advice were you imparting to this monstrous tub of lard.
2. He has received, never, a valid mail from a toned wanton wench on here. It merely seeks to create a demand…it is his entitlement to do so…though how a person, a soul can be valued on weight, heights, looks, still escapes me to this day.

If what you say is true, who is the beautiful wench…. as I said if your words are true it was rude.

He also states she wishes to change and conveyed that to him and yet all you tarred and feathered him, the lot of thee.

This one I will not tar and feather.


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 12:15:06 PM   
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He also states she wishes to change and conveyed that to him and yet all you tarred and feathered him, the lot of thee.



It's not the "what", it's the "how"...


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No matter how much I preach to them the importance of eating healthy and daily exercise they won't do it.



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I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving.


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As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.




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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 3:24:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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He also states she wishes to change and conveyed that to him and yet all you tarred and feathered him, the lot of thee.



It's not the "what", it's the "how"...


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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom


No matter how much I preach to them the importance of eating healthy and daily exercise they won't do it.



quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving.


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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.






Are you an Admin? Do you keep records (copying) of what people posted on this site? You have way too much time on your hands.
If you were my submissive I would keep you busy so you wouldn't be doing this.

Also, "Obnoxious" posted, "This Thread Is Closed" I thought this person was the Admin.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 3:35:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire



He also states she wishes to change and conveyed that to him and yet all you tarred and feathered him, the lot of thee.



It's not the "what", it's the "how"...


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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom


No matter how much I preach to them the importance of eating healthy and daily exercise they won't do it.



quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.






Are you an Admin?
Do you keep records (copying) of what people posted on this site?
You have way too much time on your hands.
If you were my submissive I would keep you busy so you wouldn't be doing this.


Also, "Obnoxious" posted, "This Thread Is Closed" I thought this person was the Admin.

a) ALL of your posts that havent been deleted are there for everyone and anyone to see.
b) You can do it anytime,
c) Who are you to say what time she has its Not your decision or place to tell her what she can and cant do with her time
d) You dont seem to be able to get a female to listen to you, so its hugely doubtful you would even get within a mile of being Osides friend, let alone her "dominant"
e) Admin has admin marked on their post(or moderator) Obnoxious is just a scummy little sock who wishes he had mod power.
When mods /admin shut down a thread, you will know it.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 3:47:59 PM   
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If you were my submissive I would keep you busy so you wouldn't be doing this.




There wouldn't be a chance in hell that would ever happen.

You're assuming that Master doesn't find it entertaining to watch me dismantle chest thumpers. He is a sadist after all.

For the record: I own my own business, co-own a media company with M, I'm on the board of directors for two charities and I run a household. Don't be jelly that I'm quicker and manage my time better than you do.


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 5:13:23 PM   
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Status: online 		I don't see a problem with a Dominant taking an interest in his sub's health. This was a part of the conversations between them as they explained their needs and hopes for their relationship. If she were happy with her body, I doubt she would have been looking for a Dominant such as MuscleBoundDom.

How he leads their relationship is entirely his decision, though obviously her responses and willingness to follow are still hers. Perhaps he wasn't clear with his expectations. That can be corrected easily enough. It's impossible to predict every situation that can arise, much less all of the possible responses.

It really isn't abnormal for a Dominant to expect their sub's full attention when they're speaking to them. Regardless of the subject matter, or the necessary length of the topic.

The fix is easy though. Have the sub set a specific ringtone for an agreed to number of contacts that are allowed to interrupt your time together. Other than those, the phone stays put away.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 5:25:49 PM   
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I don't see a problem with a Dominant taking an interest in his sub's health. This was a part of the conversations between them as they explained their needs and hopes for their relationship. If she were happy with her body, I doubt she would have been looking for a Dominant such as MuscleBoundDom.

How he leads their relationship is entirely his decision, though obviously her responses and willingness to follow are still hers. Perhaps he wasn't clear with his expectations. That can be corrected easily enough. It's impossible to predict every situation that can arise, much less all of the possible responses.

It really isn't abnormal for a Dominant to expect their sub's full attention when they're speaking to them. Regardless of the subject matter, or the necessary length of the topic.

The fix is easy though. Have the sub set a specific ringtone for an agreed to number of contacts that are allowed to interrupt your time together. Other than those, the phone stays put away.



THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST POSTS ON THIS THREAD.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 12/31/2015 7:24:34 PM   
JVoV


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Status: online 		Thanks, now maybe you'll consider some advice.

Sitting on her ass listening to you didn't make her lose weight any more than however many years of watching The Biggest Loser or The Extreme Makeover shows ever did. Less talk, more action.

She doesn't have to understand it all at the level you do. She just needs to do it. For now, because you say so is reason enough.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 7:28:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think there's quite a large group of men who have attained (with no doubt a great deal in the way of sweat and maybe even tears) a body that is therefore the epicentre of their universe and ego. They worship it, so they think others should too. Some of this group think that declaring themselves dominant means they have carte blanche to demand others worship them in the manner to which they feel entitled. And that everyone else should drop everything and move heaven and earth to do as they say in pursuit of a similar body (forgetting of course, that these are women and as such they don't want your body, well not in that way anyway).

There is an equally large group of women who would like to change their body, but when push comes to shove they aren't keen enough to tolerate the company, much less a lecturing from, a man who prioritises his pecs over that which is between his ears. The thing about shallow, is that one doesn't need to dig very deep to reach the core.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 8:05:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Someone call a WAAAAAAAAAmbulance for the OP. It appears his feewings got hurt.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 8:46:23 AM   
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Thanks, now maybe you'll consider some advice.

Sitting on her ass listening to you didn't make her lose weight any more than however many years of watching The Biggest Loser or The Extreme Makeover shows ever did. Less talk, more action.

She doesn't have to understand it all at the level you do. She just needs to do it. For now, because you say so is reason enough.


That's why I started eating Paleo (and lost some weight I needed to lose) - because he told me to. Not because I wanted to. And not because I felt motivated to. But because there were repurcussions if I didn't. Now, I'm a complete convert. But initially, it was simply because he said so.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 10:28:47 AM   
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How he leads their relationship is entirely his decision, though obviously her responses and willingness to follow are still hers. Perhaps he wasn't clear with his expectations. That can be corrected easily enough. It's impossible to predict every situation that can arise, much less all of the possible responses.




If it worked, then yes. But someone who only makes things worse and blames her for his inability to teach isn't ever going to get the results he wants.

We know it takes more than yelling at someone or threatening to punch them to improve self esteem. And until that's accomplished, she's going to turn to food more and more for the comfort he ought to be providing but can't or doesn't want to.

You know, if he gets a client through the gym he works at, and after the first couple of sessions she stops coming to him and changes gyms, she'll get the help she needs elsewhere when she's ready. But inside a relationship, his brand of abuse can do lasting damage. And he doesn't care about that. Hell, he probably doesn't want her to be successful because then he would have no excuse to lecture and humiliate her.


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 10:37:54 AM   
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You know, if he gets a client through the gym he works at, and after the first couple of sessions she stops coming to him and changes gyms, she'll get the help she needs elsewhere when she's ready. But inside a relationship, his brand of abuse can do lasting damage. And he doesn't care about that. Hell, he probably doesn't want her to be successful because then he would have no excuse to lecture and humiliate her.



I would think that if he does that at a gym, a small fraction might just stop coming to him and changing gyms quietly, if a trainer would treat me like that, I'd have a word with the manager, after all I'm paying for something qualified and not for some dude's ego trip, and most gyms are quite keen on their reputation, because they know word of mouth counts for A LOT


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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 12:30:07 PM   
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Status: online 		Do you think there is anything he could say that could possibly be worse than what's going on in her mind?

As understand it, she is looking to him as a personal trainer, dietician, life coach, and sex/kink partner. A sub can only offer control that they've possessed going in. It will be a team effort to gain that control and put it where it belongs, but for now his only option is to seize it himself.

Physical activity is every bit as important as diet, if not moreso. It will take time and effort to get her conditioned to working out daily. Probably longer before she actually enjoys doing it.

But as shallow as you all seem to think he is, MuscleBoundDom apparently sees potential in this girl. So I'd imagine that most of us would find her beautiful just as she is. But if she were happy with the way she is, she never would have agreed to have such a healthnut as her Dom.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 12:46:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think he is taking advantage of her poor self esteem.

It isn't a dynamic I would ever agree to (for that matter, neither is Kalikos), but I can respect that people have these kinks with body image. Or that a dom wants a fit healthy slave. We all have a "type" and "preferences" etc. etc.

I hate generalizations. I also really dislike that he is CLINGING to this. Like if you didn't like her, you didn't like her, move on. She probably shouldn't be using kink as therapy anyways- which in my opinion- is what this is. We don't need to come in here and say "NOT ALL WOMEN". I also hate him painting himself as some white knight beacon of hope- she has the right to walk away- and by the sounds of it- she sorta did...

Also- my suggestion to him is consider what is the Dominant factor here- is it really himself? Even his nickname is muscleBOUNDdom- he is bound by his own self image. Its the only crutch his ego seems to have (JVoV I suggest reading his lovely previous posts).

He and most likely his partners- will find what they do much more fulfilling if they actually like themselves as people first. Shame is the worst motivator. Love is much better. If you're into humiliation and close fist punching over water vs. soda- I mean MAYBE this will work- but I think he's looking for something that doesn't exsist outside his own fantasies.

and I've got $10 that says if she were to "reach the potential he sees in her"- he'd either drop her because he actually likes fat chicks and can't come to terms with it OR he'd be the most jealous fucking abusive asshole because of how attractive she has become. Eventually with this kink- don't you hit perfection? Isn't someone eventually in the best shape they can be? What happens then- does this "fixing" her kink just die? Or do you need a new project?

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 1:20:16 PM   
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Do you think there is anything he could say that could possibly be worse than what's going on in her mind?

As understand it, she is looking to him as a personal trainer, dietician, life coach, and sex/kink partner. A sub can only offer control that they've possessed going in. It will be a team effort to gain that control and put it where it belongs, but for now his only option is to seize it himself.

Physical activity is every bit as important as diet, if not moreso. It will take time and effort to get her conditioned to working out daily. Probably longer before she actually enjoys doing it.

But as shallow as you all seem to think he is, MuscleBoundDom apparently sees potential in this girl. So I'd imagine that most of us would find her beautiful just as she is. But if she were happy with the way she is, she never would have agreed to have such a healthnut as her Dom.



Hell yes, eating disorders are not fun and the wrong kind of comments can trigger them easily, I have a slow metabolism due to being hypothyroid, despite it all I don't think my BMI (as in properly measured not the simple height weight ratio) was ever over 22, I'm usually between 16 and 18, which is pretty healthy for a woman, if I go lower I start missing periods, however it's been a struggle for years to not stop eating if somebody makes a stupid comment because I have the typical hour glass figure. During my teenage days and up to my mid 20's I drifted in and out of anorexia and bulemia.

Yelling at somebody and behaving like a bully doesn't help anybody with an eating disorder, lecturing and stripping off even more self-esteem isn't going to motivate her at all.

Apart from that, he's in LA, a town obsessed with fitness, any decent fitness instructor will make a ton of money and not need a 2nd job to pay the bills, if he doesn't make enough in his chosen job, then most likely because he doesn't have the clientel, and if he employs the same methods, I'm not surprised, people pay a lot for somebody who can motivate them, lecturing - not really.

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RE: Women Are So Rude These Days - 1/1/2016 1:23:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		He has a profile, and pictures, granted not verified which I am all for everyone doing so no matter the site ( I am sure a muscle bound handsome chappy like that can easily do so) -, but not suspect enough for me to waste my time checking....or tar and feather him like most of thee have done thus-far implying inflammatory.

His thread is valid. It should also be noted his profile categorically states he is looking for a fit wanton wench...How is that different for looking for someone bestowed with beautiful looks, and so on. I know for a fact nearly all women are more shallow than men when it comes to looks.

weightloss is really another thread in its own right and I have more experience than almost all regarding this.,.

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