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post any mainstream factual one in the last 5 years that says it is turning away from socialism. All you have is slobbering nutsuckers spewing asswipe in non-sequiturs and strawmen.

Mainstream media usually dont do articles on nothing happening. Nutsucker slobber blogs and nutsuckers shit their pants and cockgargle incessantly about nothing.

The democratic socialist party has been the largest party in the Riksdag since 1917.

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The (parliament) is composed of several parties, like England, and the socialists are at 40-55% consistently, holding the largest share of seats in government.

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Oh, please. Negotiations happen prior to the previous contract's expiration, unless the negotiations go poorly and extend beyond the previous contract. Imagine how many teachers could get fired if the CBA is no longer in effect, which could also prevent them from being rehired under the new CBA. No way the Unions are going to risk that. That would be shitty representation, at the very least.

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That means jack shit. The TPS teachers aren't negotiating with government, thus, their situation doesn't meet the reasons of the 1st Amendment.

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Yes, they exist with curtailed powers. That was my point. The laws that grant those powers can be changed, removing those powers. In the case of WI, it wasn't all.

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You've now moved from low socioeconomic status to "impoverished family environments." I maintain that academics supporting home environments are more important to student success than how much money that home brings in. You can have poor home environments without that home being impoverished, and the academic results will tend to reflect that.

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Are you going to pass a law that demands families set up home environments that are supportive of academic success? Do you have to have highly developed cognitive abilities to get good paying jobs?

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It has to start in the home. The parent(s) has to be supportive of academic success. How do we legislate that sort of thing?

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They are the majority party.

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Oh, please. Negotiations happen prior to the previous contract's expiration, unless the negotiations go poorly and extend beyond the previous contract. Imagine how many teachers could get fired if the CBA is no longer in effect, which could also prevent them from being rehired under the new CBA. No way the Unions are going to risk that. That would be shitty representation, at the very least.

Just prior to or at expiration, it's the same thing. There is anticipation of a disruptive situation. You're just being picky.

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. So, why can't we help our own? Because we need some group to look down upon? Some group that makes us feel better than them? Some group to whom we ascribe mental, spiritual deficiencies. Them lazy, ignorant, shiftless, blacks.

The truth is we do not give a shit about them. The truth is we need their failure to make us feel god almighty okay with our puny accomplishments. Hey, look at how great I am! How great are you? Well, I'm better than those ignorant fucks who live downtown. White, suburban Americans live lives of ever changing fear. They are pathetic. "Gotta buy me another gun before that black man in the White House confiscates them all and leaves us vulnerable to the newest boogie man. Shit!

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it was minority from 6-10.

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nothing about not being socialist

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They are the majority party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party


No they are not. They govern as part of a coalition with the greens

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They are the majority party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party


No they are not. They govern as part of a coalition with the greens

You are behind the times, I just showed you the Riksdag. That is old old news.
Course why believe the actual Swedes, when you can find something that will support your hallucinatorv views.

So, we have went from the swedes turning away from socialism to well, maybe they are in a coalition to what now?

So, you were wrong at the outset, and it turns out that they like all scandinavia is overwhelmingly social democratic, it comes from their egalitarian underpinnings since the days of the althing. And they are handing us our ass, in terms of their financials. China also is handing us our ass. You want to compare and contrast them and their coalition with nutsucker slobber blogs? Seems like american leadership and fiscal responsibility is sort of fucked up, and I see that our tax revenue shortfall (due to some tax cuts kicking in from nutsuckers) are gonna put us in a half trillion deficit this year, and I bet that will go right to the bottom line and hit debt.

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Oh, please. Negotiations happen prior to the previous contract's expiration, unless the negotiations go poorly and extend beyond the previous contract. Imagine how many teachers could get fired if the CBA is no longer in effect, which could also prevent them from being rehired under the new CBA. No way the Unions are going to risk that. That would be shitty representation, at the very least.

Just prior to or at expiration, it's the same thing. There is anticipation of a disruptive situation. You're just being picky.

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That means jack shit. The TPS teachers aren't negotiating with government, thus, their situation doesn't meet the reasons of the 1st Amendment.

There is so much SCOTUS case law to show that the constitution does not stop at the classroom door for both students and teachers to make your claim sadly ridiculous or blind.

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Yes, they exist with curtailed powers. That was my point. The laws that grant those powers can be changed, removing those powers. In the case of WI, it wasn't all.

It was always understood in Florida that the laws could be changed. That's why the Union always and continuously lobbied the state legislature. Oh wait, I forgot your silly claim we were not negotiating with government.

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You've now moved from low socioeconomic status to "impoverished family environments." I maintain that academics supporting home environments are more important to student success than how much money that home brings in. You can have poor home environments without that home being impoverished, and the academic results will tend to reflect that.

I thought I made that pretty clear.

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Are you going to pass a law that demands families set up home environments that are supportive of academic success? Do you have to have highly developed cognitive abilities to get good paying jobs?

No, of course not. America does not give a shit about the poor or people of color to spend the money needed for more effective intervention. We would rather spend the money on a bloated defense system now gearing up for a war with 30,000 Arabs running around the desert in pick up trucks, a pathetic force our pols would have us believe constitute an imminent threat. We are a people so imbued with irrational fear that we let our infrastructure go to hell. Inner city kids and poor country kids are an important part of our infrastructure. But all our pols are interested in is dressing them in uniform and providing cannon fodder for unjustified, colonial warfare.

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It has to start in the home. The parent(s) has to be supportive of academic success. How do we legislate that sort of thing?

True, but there is a big difference between the mindset of immigrants who had the moxie to get up and move their families to a new world verses those who are caught up in the long cycle of indigenous racism, and who continue to struggle against systemic racism. My dad was from Sicily and never got beyond the 3rd grad but I went through grad school because by my generation the prejudice against southern European immigrants was dissipated. So, why can't we help our own? Because we need some group to look down upon? Some group that makes us feel better than them? Some group to whom we ascribe mental, spiritual deficiencies. Them lazy, ignorant, shiftless, blacks.

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The truth is we do not give a shit about them. The truth is we need their failure to make us feel god almighty okay with our puny accomplishments. Hey, look at how great I am! How great are you? Well, I'm better than those ignorant fucks who live downtown. White, suburban Americans live lives of ever changing fear. They are pathetic. "Gotta buy me another gun before that black man in the White House confiscates them all and leaves us vulnerable to the newest boogie man. Shit!

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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You've gone off the rails, vincent. Be well.

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Inner-city homeowners and businesses pay half their total property tax bill to the San Antonio Independent School District, with little to show for it.

While the 53,700-student school system receives a “Met Standards” rating from the Texas Education Agency, the outcomes are dreadful:

•Just 15.5 percent of students passed at least one Advanced Placement or International Baccalaureate exam (versus 51.3 percent statewide).
•The average SAT score is 1201 (1417 statewide).
•Only 39 percent of SAISD graduates are deemed college-ready in English and math (54 percent statewide).
•The four-year graduation rate for whites is 69.8 percent (93 percent statewide). The overall rate of 80.8 is eight points below the Texas average.

Poor district? Think again. SAISD teachers earn bigger salaries across the board. Starting pay of $49,424 is $5,000 over the state average.

With a $550 million budget, SAISD expenditures work out to $10,185 per pupil — roughly double any charter school allocation in Texas....

“Under the current monopoly-only approach, (public schools) continue to fail.”

For a quality K-12 education, parents double down to put their children in private schools while continuing to pay taxes for scholastic services they do not or cannot use.

“Until we rein in the out-of-control spending of public school districts, we’re never going to see the end to confiscatory property taxes in Texas,” said Terri Hall, president of Texans Uniting for Reform and Freedom.

Hall and others believe San Antonio’s downtown revitalization efforts will be deflated as long as high-achieving parents are scared off by low-performing schools.

Venable says school choice ["choice" is only good when you want to kill babies in the womb] — through education savings accounts — are the answer.

“When education bureaucrats start seeing students and parents as their clients and customers, schools will improve,” she predicts.

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Less than 24 hours before Snowmaggedon was scheduled to hit Washington, D.C., libertarians and other school choice supporters gathered to hear the latest evidence that public education needs to move into the 21st century...

“The traditional public school system, K through 12, which is a $600 billion a year industry, is filled with abuses, waste, and misdirected attention,” Gillespie added...

As it turns out, Snell explained, many high-performing schools, typically public charter schools, are located in strip malls, old churches or even warehouses. The building itself seems to have little to do with the learning.

The root of the problem stems from traditional public education’s unwillingness to adapt. We live in an age of mass customization, so why not have that in education?

He likened the current education system to buying a car that still performs like it was built in the 1970s, but at an increased cost: “We are basically spending 200 percent more for a product that is circa 1970.” Spending at all levels of government on K-12 public education is up nearly 200 percent, but student achievement is flat.

Snell joked that the solution was to send America’s children to a foreign country.

“The Unites States spends more than almost any country in the world on public education … and [the OECD] found that schools that spend 50 percent of the what the United State spends basically get the same performance or even more, so one of the solutions might be that we could just send kids to Estonia because they are spending a lot less money than us and they are performing better than us,” she said.

The real solution, both speakers agreed, was to embrace the changes that are occurring in the economy and apply them to public education. Just as companies like Uber and inventions like 3D printers are enabling personalization and customization in the economy, charter schools, virtual schools, vouchers, education savings accounts, and other forms of school choice are revolutionizing education and giving students and parents the ability to customize and personalize education.

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And, Scandinavia. Your lack of any factual knowledge betrays a lack of intellect on the actual world...

Once again your "knowledge" is myth and out of date.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/jun/16/20070616-080932-5740r/?page=all
http://nypost.com/2015/10/19/sorry-bernie-scandinavia-is-no-socialist-paradise-after-all/
http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/08/sweden-not-a-socialist-standard-bearer-a
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/248263/swedens-quiet-revolution-duncan-currie
http://patriotupdate.com/sweden-leads-way-dumping-socialism/
Here, let me quote a bit


Since the early 1990s, when it suffered a painful financial crisis, the Scandinavian country has deregulated key industries (such as airlines, telecommunications, and electricity), lowered its overall tax burden, established universal school vouchers, partially privatized its pension system, abolished certain government monopolies, sold a number of state-owned enterprises (including the parent company of Absolut vodka), and trimmed public spending. Several years ago, it eliminated gift and inheritance taxes. The World Economic Forum now ranks Sweden as the second-most competitive economy on earth, behind only Switzerland. According to the 2010 Index of Economic Freedom (compiled by the Wall Street Journal and the Heritage Foundation), Sweden offers greater business freedom, trade freedom, monetary freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom, freedom from corruption, and property-rights protection than does the United States.

Tax dodgers will go to tax havens like Johns will go to the fleshpots of the world. Doesn't mean they are moral

It also doesn't mean oppressive taxes or the governments that inflict them are moral, either. Pretty stupid comment.

I may frame it. First time I've ever heard sweden, with an income tax of 56% and a VAT tax of 25% as a tax haven.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
And, Scandinavia. Your lack of any factual knowledge betrays a lack of intellect on the actual world...

Once again your "knowledge" is myth and out of date.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/jun/16/20070616-080932-5740r/?page=all
http://nypost.com/2015/10/19/sorry-bernie-scandinavia-is-no-socialist-paradise-after-all/
http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/08/sweden-not-a-socialist-standard-bearer-a
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/248263/swedens-quiet-revolution-duncan-currie
http://patriotupdate.com/sweden-leads-way-dumping-socialism/
Here, let me quote a bit


Since the early 1990s, when it suffered a painful financial crisis, the Scandinavian country has deregulated key industries (such as airlines, telecommunications, and electricity), lowered its overall tax burden, established universal school vouchers, partially privatized its pension system, abolished certain government monopolies, sold a number of state-owned enterprises (including the parent company of Absolut vodka), and trimmed public spending. Several years ago, it eliminated gift and inheritance taxes. The World Economic Forum now ranks Sweden as the second-most competitive economy on earth, behind only Switzerland. According to the 2010 Index of Economic Freedom (compiled by the Wall Street Journal and the Heritage Foundation), Sweden offers greater business freedom, trade freedom, monetary freedom, investment freedom, financial freedom, freedom from corruption, and property-rights protection than does the United States.

Tax dodgers will go to tax havens like Johns will go to the fleshpots of the world. Doesn't mean they are moral

It also doesn't mean oppressive taxes or the governments that inflict them are moral, either. Pretty stupid comment.

I may frame it. First time I've ever heard sweden, with an income tax of 56% and a VAT tax of 25% as a tax haven.

You later say Sweden is less socialist than us with 56% income tax and socialized healthcare

Scandinavia is the tax haven if you read your own citations. Lowering taxes in one country moves companies there, it does not create additional global wealth. In fact, it often lowers it as location is chosen for taxes, not ease of production

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Bahamas has 0% taxation as do dozens of other countries. Calling sweden a tax haven is ridiculous; you're just trying to save face. Have some intellectual honesty. A tax haven is a place you move money to, in order to avoid taxes.

No one is moving money to sweden for a tax haven.