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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 7:40:34 AM   
Lucylastic


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I'm wondering, do the people that visit these clubs get any kind of introduction etc? Like does anyone talk to them about basic etiquette?
Speaking as someone who doesn't attend kink clubs, if I were to walk in off the street and see naked people tied up, being played with and maybe sexual stuff going on, I don't think it would be my fault if I didn't know which way was up =|
I mean, theres probably a heap of terms like master, slave, submissive, dominant being thrown around, half the people on here can't even agree what they mean or what the conventions around them are... is there a sign up saying look but don't touch?
It's funny how a lot of you seem to think it's common sense, but with the amount of fantasy floating around with the fact regarding BDSM... Cutting some slack is probably a good idea in some cases.


The clubs I went to recently, I had to sign a form stating I understood the rules. also a paper on photography.
Both clubs were dungeons. Nobody just walked off the street. The dungeons were concealed from the front and back of house. YOu didnt get in without at least understanding the rules.
I didnt get an orientation, but I did get a tour from one of the hosts/hostesses and could ask any questions, sex play, room rules, clean up supplies, kitchen, bathroom, etc etc

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 8:03:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cell

I'm wondering, do the people that visit these clubs get any kind of introduction etc? Like does anyone talk to them about basic etiquette?
Speaking as someone who doesn't attend kink clubs, if I were to walk in off the street and see naked people tied up, being played with and maybe sexual stuff going on, I don't think it would be my fault if I didn't know which way was up =|
I mean, theres probably a heap of terms like master, slave, submissive, dominant being thrown around, half the people on here can't even agree what they mean or what the conventions around them are... is there a sign up saying look but don't touch?
It's funny how a lot of you seem to think it's common sense, but with the amount of fantasy floating around with the fact regarding BDSM... Cutting some slack is probably a good idea in some cases.


This is a direct copy from the play space that I referred to on another thread:

quote:

Play Space Rules
This is a sex positive play space.
No cell phones or electronic devices beyond the curtain. You may use your cell phone in the lobby.

No nudity in the lobby. Keep yourself covered until you are beyond the curtain.

Wipe down equipment before and after use.

Fire play, needle play, and blood play in designated areas only with approval of management.

Studio rules will be enforced by Staff. Violations will be dealt with on a case by case basis.

The house safe word is “RED” for stop. If someone in a scene says “RED” the scene must immediately cease or the scene will be interrupted by Staff.

Proper Scene etiquette is required.
-Respect others personal space.
-Do not interrupt negotiations/conversations.
-Do not touch anyone without permission.
-Do not touch anyone’s personal property without permission.
-Be respectful of those around you.
-Do not interrupt or interfere with a scene.
-Do not let your scene interfere with others in the studio.

Chux must be used to cover furniture when in direct contact with genitalia.

Pick up after your self and dispose of trash in a trash can.

All alcohol must be declared and marked at the front desk and kept in the alcohol room. No glass containers allowed in the play space.

You must be 21 to drink alcohol

Please drink responsibly. We reserve the right to terminate your alcohol privilege

Breathe play permitted with staff approval.

Mats are to be under the bottom during a suspension

Only Climbing grade straps are to be used to attach rings to rigs

Only Climbing grade carabineers are to be used during a suspension

No Static Rope to placed around the neck

It is our goal to provided a safe and fun space for all to enjoy, explore ,and experience their kink. Please help us provided that environment by observing the above rules.
Failure to follow the above rules or direction by staff may result in your ejection from the premises

Private Room Rules

Private Room Rules
1 Hour Time Limit on all Rooms!
Open Door Policy : Welcome to enter or watch if room is occupied.
Closed Door Policy : If a door is closed it is for private use, please do not enter or disturb a scene in a private room with a closed door.
Doors are to always remain unblocked and unlocked.
Event and facility staff will monitor rooms as needed.
Fire Play and Waxing are prohibited in Private rooms.
Needle Play is only permitted in Room 2 “Medical Play Room” with prior approval from DM.
Windows are to remain closed at all times.
Private Rooms are first come first serve.
Please report any damages to equipment immediately to a staff member.
Pick up after self and dispose of trash in a trash can.

These rules are online and given in person on paper the first time a person attends the club. Any person wishing to go past the lobby must sign an acknowledgement that they have read and understand the rules before they are allowed to go into the play space.

Hope this helps as a contribution.




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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 8:05:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cell


It's funny how a lot of you seem to think it's common sense, but with the amount of fantasy floating around with the fact regarding BDSM... Cutting some slack is probably a good idea in some cases.


Oh No!

Oh Yes!?

quote:

I mean, I seriously don't understand this at all!

But I hope what you are really saying is, people are gonna be idiots, it's unavoidable, so we need to keep reminding them about the obvious, no touching a stranger without their permission!

I was saying that it's best not to take for granted, that other people wont take things for granted.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 8:08:18 AM   
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Well, a person being aware of all that kinda has no excuse do they.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 8:14:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cell

I'm wondering, do the people that visit these clubs get any kind of introduction etc? Like does anyone talk to them about basic etiquette?
Speaking as someone who doesn't attend kink clubs, if I were to walk in off the street and see naked people tied up, being played with and maybe sexual stuff going on, I don't think it would be my fault if I didn't know which way was up =|
I mean, theres probably a heap of terms like master, slave, submissive, dominant being thrown around, half the people on here can't even agree what they mean or what the conventions around them are... is there a sign up saying look but don't touch?
It's funny how a lot of you seem to think it's common sense, but with the amount of fantasy floating around with the fact regarding BDSM... Cutting some slack is probably a good idea in some cases.


This is a direct copy from the play space that I referred to on another thread:

quote:

Play Space Rules
This is a sex positive play space.
No cell phones or electronic devices beyond the curtain. You may use your cell phone in the lobby.

No nudity in the lobby. Keep yourself covered until you are beyond the curtain.

Wipe down equipment before and after use.

Fire play, needle play, and blood play in designated areas only with approval of management.

Studio rules will be enforced by Staff. Violations will be dealt with on a case by case basis.

The house safe word is “RED” for stop. If someone in a scene says “RED” the scene must immediately cease or the scene will be interrupted by Staff.

Proper Scene etiquette is required.
-Respect others personal space.
-Do not interrupt negotiations/conversations.
-Do not touch anyone without permission.
-Do not touch anyone’s personal property without permission.
-Be respectful of those around you.
-Do not interrupt or interfere with a scene.
-Do not let your scene interfere with others in the studio.

Chux must be used to cover furniture when in direct contact with genitalia.

Pick up after your self and dispose of trash in a trash can.

All alcohol must be declared and marked at the front desk and kept in the alcohol room. No glass containers allowed in the play space.

You must be 21 to drink alcohol

Please drink responsibly. We reserve the right to terminate your alcohol privilege

Breathe play permitted with staff approval.

Mats are to be under the bottom during a suspension

Only Climbing grade straps are to be used to attach rings to rigs

Only Climbing grade carabineers are to be used during a suspension

No Static Rope to placed around the neck

It is our goal to provided a safe and fun space for all to enjoy, explore ,and experience their kink. Please help us provided that environment by observing the above rules.
Failure to follow the above rules or direction by staff may result in your ejection from the premises

Private Room Rules

Private Room Rules
1 Hour Time Limit on all Rooms!
Open Door Policy : Welcome to enter or watch if room is occupied.
Closed Door Policy : If a door is closed it is for private use, please do not enter or disturb a scene in a private room with a closed door.
Doors are to always remain unblocked and unlocked.
Event and facility staff will monitor rooms as needed.
Fire Play and Waxing are prohibited in Private rooms.
Needle Play is only permitted in Room 2 “Medical Play Room” with prior approval from DM.
Windows are to remain closed at all times.
Private Rooms are first come first serve.
Please report any damages to equipment immediately to a staff member.
Pick up after self and dispose of trash in a trash can.

These rules are online and given in person on paper the first time a person attends the club. Any person wishing to go past the lobby must sign an acknowledgement that they have read and understand the rules before they are allowed to go into the play space.

Hope this helps as a contribution.




hah that was what I was looking for:)


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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 9:32:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cell

I'm wondering, do the people that visit these clubs get any kind of introduction etc? Like does anyone talk to them about basic etiquette?
Speaking as someone who doesn't attend kink clubs, if I were to walk in off the street and see naked people tied up, being played with and maybe sexual stuff going on, I don't think it would be my fault if I didn't know which way was up =|
I mean, theres probably a heap of terms like master, slave, submissive, dominant being thrown around, half the people on here can't even agree what they mean or what the conventions around them are... is there a sign up saying look but don't touch?
It's funny how a lot of you seem to think it's common sense, but with the amount of fantasy floating around with the fact regarding BDSM... Cutting some slack is probably a good idea in some cases.


The clubs I went to recently, I had to sign a form stating I understood the rules. also a paper on photography.
Both clubs were dungeons. Nobody just walked off the street. The dungeons were concealed from the front and back of house. YOu didnt get in without at least understanding the rules.
I didnt get an orientation, but I did get a tour from one of the hosts/hostesses and could ask any questions, sex play, room rules, clean up supplies, kitchen, bathroom, etc etc

The club I'm in, you can't attend kink events
a. before attending at least two munches, talking with each of the officers of the club (this is handled at the munches) and been (informally) made aware of the general culture and expectations of private events
OR
b. you can be escorted to the event by an established member, who vouches for you and is responsible for you and your behavior

Upon arrival, all attendees, even established members, sign an acknowledgment of rules.

All new attendees are required to take a walking orientation tour of the facility, where they are apprised of the rules again and given the chance to ask questions and get clarification.

In addition, signs are posted throughout as a reminder,.

Anyone who, at this point, does not understand has no excuse for it.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 9:38:33 AM   
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Yeah, it's not that they don't know any better, they're just trying to get away with it!

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 12:26:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cell

I'm wondering, do the people that visit these clubs get any kind of introduction etc? Like does anyone talk to them about basic etiquette?
Speaking as someone who doesn't attend kink clubs, if I were to walk in off the street and see naked people tied up, being played with and maybe sexual stuff going on, I don't think it would be my fault if I didn't know which way was up =|
I mean, theres probably a heap of terms like master, slave, submissive, dominant being thrown around, half the people on here can't even agree what they mean or what the conventions around them are... is there a sign up saying look but don't touch?
It's funny how a lot of you seem to think it's common sense, but with the amount of fantasy floating around with the fact regarding BDSM... Cutting some slack is probably a good idea in some cases.



Back around 1998, we incorporated our group as a 501C (I think that is right, been a LONG time). Our play space was, originally my boyfriends house. When I moved in with him, we lost that space so we had to look into how to continue throwing parties at a different venue. Already having an existing group with existing rules before anyone could attend a party:

First, Attend a few munches, which were private and designed to be intimate meetings/classes to discuss basic BDSM safety etand basic dungeon ettiquette.

Second, Be invited. Usually you weren't invited until you had attended a few munches and the host was comfortable enough to invite you to his home.

Once invited you were required to read, discuss and sign dungeon etiquette rules and Be responsible for your behavior.

When we formed the non-profit, current members paid membership dues and I found a place for our new dungeon. As a guest, You could only attend with a member. Members knew that if they invited a guest, and that guest behaved badly or caused problems for the club - both guest and the sponsoring member had to leave, and the member lost their membership privileges.

Classes/discussions were held at the munches, a separate place from the dungeon. Mentoring classes were held for new players, dominants mentoring dominants; submissives mentoring submissives etc. ( many years later I attended a Leather Leadership Conference and the members of that group - which had evolved and grown - were hosting and teaching at the conference, and while attending one of the mentor seminars - the speaker pointed me out and said, "Right there is one of my mentors who welcomed me into the community and helped guide me in my BDSM journey." One of my favorite memories.)

No one....EVER walked in off the streets into our dungeon, and though it is not longer Incorporated and has changed venues - the group itself still exists nearly 20 years later. I'm humbled to have been part of its earlier beginnings. I like to believe it is, in part, due to a strong foundation formed from common sense and learning from mistakes. I can't lay claim to its success, but I do take great pride in having had a small part in its infancy.

Most of the clubs I've been to have been set up largely in this manner, with the exception of Detroit. Detroit utilized Fet, and word of mouth. You'd have to know someone who knew where the club was. I can't say no one ever walked in off the streets. That was, admittedly, an uncomfortable concern for me. It didn't feel private enough, but - I guess there is almost a cultural divide between Detroits beginnings and how Baton Rouge and New Orleans managed their groups.

Fun times. I'm feeling a bit homesick :)

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/17/2016 1:10:23 PM   
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I think American clubs are generally very different to British clubs. We do have a few serious dungeon clubs but generally they are more like the club sections this
I think generally we are more fetish orientated, at least in London and our clubs bring big numbers in that usually don't have to be members and the only requirement is, they have to dress to impress.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 2:53:49 AM   
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If you don't do this, you could land yourself in a whole heap of trouble.


It's already been run by a lawyer. The witness is not a club functionary. We simply provide the cards.

But thank you. We are planning several iterations to get this perfect.

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Nookie, I would agree that everything said above is worth considering. Are you putting these out as "suggestions" to aid negotiations, and if so, is that clear? Do participants get the impression that this holds some sort of legal status if there are signatures and witnesses involved?

How can the club ensure that they do not get caught up in liability issues because of how the card can be perceived?

I think it can be done, but it is a very important consideration that you want to deal with at the beginning, not after someone tries to use it against the club. This is not one of those things that you can afford to learn by trial and error.


Absolutely, they are simply suggestion aids. They are not required at our club, nor are they a part of the club itself. In fact, people are encouraged to take them and use them wherever.

As I said, we have run it by a lawyer, and we are much more at risk of liability without such measures than with. And it is also an excellent potential preventative.

*smiles*

I do appreciate the concern.

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ORIGINAL: Cell

I'm wondering, do the people that visit these clubs get any kind of introduction etc? Like does anyone talk to them about basic etiquette?


Some offer that, some don't. We have a waiver, a tour with basic etiquette explained, and one night a month specifically for Newbies (17 at this past Saturday's event!).

Of course, these cards are not for the random, "Oh! This is kinky. Naked girls! *touch*" people. This is for those entering into a scene without a deep relationship with their co-scener, and want to clarify what is and is not sexually acceptable.

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ORIGINAL: MariaB

I think American clubs are generally very different to British clubs. We do have a few serious dungeon clubs but generally they are more like the club sections this
I think generally we are more fetish orientated, at least in London and our clubs bring big numbers in that usually don't have to be members and the only requirement is, they have to dress to impress.


We're more between. We don't yet get large numbers, but we are a venue more than a "club" in the sense of "section of community." We host events for many clubs: Singles, littles, rope, kinklings (18-35), etc.

We don't have a dress code (which I would love!), though.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 3:45:42 AM   
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We're more between. We don't yet get large numbers, but we are a venue more than a "club" in the sense of "section of community." We host events for many clubs: Singles, littles, rope, kinklings (18-35), etc.

We don't have a dress code (which I would love!), though.


It sounds very similar to how we started and we started off with a very low key dress code, (smart, no jeans and no 'nudity' which is law in the UK if you aren't using a sex licensed venue). The interesting thing is, people were excited at not having to dress up but our numbers were far too low to sustain the hefty costs of a city venue. Once we changed our dress code to encourage individualism and diversity our numbers increased at record speed. Our website used to say, "if your outfit wouldn't turn heads in the street, don't bother wearing it to our club". Whilst that certainly keeps some people away, we had absolute proof that a lot more people prefer to dress up than not.


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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 4:20:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MariaB


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
We're more between. We don't yet get large numbers, but we are a venue more than a "club" in the sense of "section of community." We host events for many clubs: Singles, littles, rope, kinklings (18-35), etc.

We don't have a dress code (which I would love!), though.


It sounds very similar to how we started and we started off with a very low key dress code, (smart, no jeans and no 'nudity' which is law in the UK if you aren't using a sex licensed venue). The interesting thing is, people were excited at not having to dress up but our numbers were far too low to sustain the hefty costs of a city venue. Once we changed our dress code to encourage individualism and diversity our numbers increased at record speed. Our website used to say, "if your outfit wouldn't turn heads in the street, don't bother wearing it to our club". Whilst that certainly keeps some people away, we had absolute proof that a lot more people prefer to dress up than not.



We are definitely planning dress up events. We do serve specific groups, which are bringing their own numbers. Since the grand opening was just on NYE, we'll be watching to see what happens over time.

It's very exciting.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 9:27:33 AM   
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We are definitely planning dress up events. We do serve specific groups, which are bringing their own numbers. Since the grand opening was just on NYE, we'll be watching to see what happens over time.

It's very exciting.


Sounds like you've got some great ideas ahead of you Nookie. My only regret is, its just too far for me to visit.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 2:26:00 PM   
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One of the local areas I play in has recently had a spate of non-consensual issues arise, especially focusing on sexual contact during negotiated scenes, and what was allowed and not allowed.

I and the Venue I help manage created these cards to respond to that:



We're getting these printed as we speak, so they will be available for all of our events, at the front desk, along with pens for filling out.

We're encouraging people to take a few to use at other events as well.

GET YOUR OWN PERSONALIZED CARDS!

The other side is blank. If you'd like your own cards with your Fet name, link, info (instead of The Venue logo), and the other side with your hard limits and most common play needs, just contact us (The Venue on FetLife or me—since I lay them out), and I'll get you the files.

At no cost.

This is our service to the community.

TO OTHER VENUES

If you think this is a good idea, and would like the original files, or would like cards made with your information, please reach out.

We'll be happy to help you get what you need to create your own Sexual Consent Cards.

*smiles*


Remembering the time of the time of year: Can you lose the top couple of lines, add a few roses and other romantic stuff at the top and make these into Valentines cards?


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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 2:53:14 PM   
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Remembering the time of the time of year: Can you lose the top couple of lines, add a few roses and other romantic stuff at the top and make these into Valentines cards?


Oh. Damn. I like that! *thinks furiously*

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 3:37:20 PM   
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Remembering the time of the time of year: Can you lose the top couple of lines, add a few roses and other romantic stuff at the top and make these into Valentines cards?


Oh. Damn. I like that! *thinks furiously*


I love it. I think I'd be handing them out like candy. Ok, not really, but I'd want to.

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 3:42:15 PM   
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I should recommend this hilarious video on the topic of consent and tea for anyone who hasn't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/18/2016 4:20:01 PM   
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I should recommend this hilarious video on the topic of consent and tea for anyone who hasn't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8


This is great! Sad, and disturbing that it needed to be said - but still great

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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 1/20/2016 7:39:37 AM   
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I should recommend this hilarious video on the topic of consent and tea for anyone who hasn't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

Yep. In full agreement. I saw a friend of mine post that over on Fet and did a thread on it here. Damn shame we need it but that is the state of our communities and the world.

That's how I see these consent cards. It would be great not to need them, but obviously, we do. Or, we need something. Any idea is better than the status quo. This idea wouldn't have been necessary if there weren't problems, already.



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RE: Sexual Consent Cards - 2/7/2016 1:17:32 PM   
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Far too long winded for me and doesn't cover any of the peculiars that might be relevant to playing with me. Different things are okay with different people in different circumstances and sometimes what is okay changes midscene.

Example - male Dom wants to cane me - I want it medium hard, not too fast, no wrap, no hitting legs, no hitting above ass crack. I'm okay with him touching my whole ass to see how hot / bruised it is but I'm not okay with any pleasure touching at all. I can't tick these things on that card.

Example - watching a needle demo, someone offers to try it on me. At first I only want one in the skin on my back and then I want a little think about it. But after I get one in my back, I swoon into arousal and desire and beg her to stab me all over. I want needles in my tits, but I don't want her touching me sexually because I'm not into women. How do I tick 'can touch tits so long as only for (my perceived) non sexual play and not for (my perceived) sexual play'. This card doesn't begin to cover that.

Ultimately, I don't think anything can replace conversation and negotiation, as well as respecting the flow of a scene. I get that consent violations are an issue for some. For me, everything depends on how I feel when it's happening. If I had to give explicit consent for everything I was and was not okay with happening to me, we'd still be talking when the party ended.

I'd rather just play and if I like it, you can carry on and if I don't, I'll tell you to stop. I've no idea what I'm going to want before we even start play. I'm not going to consent in advance, when I've no idea if I'll feel like consenting once we've started.

(in reply to NookieNotes)
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