Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT Page: [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/25/2016 5:52:28 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
They indict the assholes who made up the videos...CMPs Leader
David Daleiden, and Sandra Merritt...




HOUSTON — A grand jury here that was investigating accusations of misconduct against Planned Parenthood has instead indicted two abortion opponents who made undercover videos of the organization.

Prosecutors in Harris County said one of the leaders of the Center for Medical Progress — an anti-abortion group that made secretly recorded videos purporting to show Planned Parenthood officials trying to illegally profit from the sale of fetal tissue — had been indicted on a charge of tampering with a governmental record, a felony, and on a misdemeanor charge related to purchasing human organs.

That leader, David Daleiden, 26, the director of the center, had posed as a biotechnology representative to infiltrate Planned Parenthood affiliates and surreptitiously record his efforts to procure tissue for research. Another center employee, Sandra Merritt, was indicted on a felony charge of tampering with a governmental record.

Abortion opponents claimed that the videos, which were released starting in July, revealed that Planned Parenthood was engaged in the illegal sale of body parts — a charge that the organization has denied and that has not been supported in numerous congressional and state investigations triggered by the release of the videos.

On Monday, the Harris County district attorney, Devon Anderson, said in a statement that grand jurors had cleared Planned Parenthood of any wrongdoing.

She declined to provide details about the case against Mr. Daleiden and Ms. Merritt, including any documents or evidence presented to the grand jury, citing state law on the secrecy of grand jury proceedings.

“As I stated at the outset of this investigation, we must go where the evidence leads us,” Ms. Anderson said. “All the evidence uncovered in the course of this investigation was presented to the grand jury. I respect their decision on this difficult case.”

The release of the videos last summer created a furor and gave new strength to the conservative drive to defund Planned Parenthood. The organization was forced to apologize for the casual tone that one of its officials used to discuss a possible transfer of fetal tissue to what she believed was a legitimate medical company. But Planned Parenthood said the fees being discussed were to cover costs and were legal.

Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican, said on Monday that the inspector general of the state’s Health and Human Services Commission and the Texas attorney general’s office have been investigating Planned Parenthood’s actions.

“Nothing about today’s announcement in Harris County impacts the state’s ongoing investigation,” Mr. Abbott said in a statement. “The State of Texas will continue to protect life, and I will continue to support legislation prohibiting the sale or transfer of fetal tissue.”

The state attorney general, Ken Paxton, said in a statement: “The fact remains that the videos exposed the horrific nature of abortion and the shameful disregard for human life of the abortion industry. The state’s investigation of Planned Parenthood is ongoing.”


The case here started in August, when Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, a Republican and an outspoken opponent of abortion and Planned Parenthood, asked Ms. Anderson to open a criminal investigation into the organization. His request came after the release of an undercover video recorded at a Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast office in Houston with a research official for the organization. Mr. Patrick said the video showed the group “discussing the gruesome and barbaric work of Planned Parenthood and what appears to be its profiteering from selling body parts from aborted babies.”

Ms. Anderson, a Republican who was appointed district attorney by Gov. Rick Perry in 2013 and was later elected to the office, described the investigation on Monday as “lengthy and thorough,” and said it involved her office, the Houston police and the Texas Rangers. She said the grand jury reviewed the joint inquiry for more than two months.

This month in federal court in San Francisco, Planned Parenthood sued the center, Mr. Daleiden and other abortion opponents involved in the videos. The suit accused them of engaging in a three-year criminal enterprise to target the group.

“These people broke the law to spread malicious lies about Planned Parenthood in order to advance their extreme anti-abortion political agenda,” Eric Ferrero, a spokesman for the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said in a statement Monday. “As the dust settles and the truth comes out, it’s become totally clear that the only people who engaged in wrongdoing are the criminals behind this fraud, and we’re glad they’re being held accountable.”

In a statement Monday night, Mr. Daleiden said: “The Center for Medical Progress uses the same undercover techniques that investigative journalists have used for decades in exercising our First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and of the press, and follows all applicable laws. We respect the processes of the Harris County district attorney, and note that buying fetal tissue requires a seller as well. Planned Parenthood still cannot deny the admissions from their leadership about fetal organ sales captured on video for all the world to see.”

In making the videos, Mr. Daleiden and others have been accused of setting up a fake company called Biomax Procurement Services, creating fake identities and claiming to be part of a legitimate provider of fetal tissue to researchers. The charge of tampering with a governmental record appeared to be related to Mr. Daleiden’s and Ms. Merritt’s use of fake ID cards.


“We know that they used fake IDs that had their real photographs but fake names and fake addresses purported to be issued by the state of California,” said Josh Schaffer, a Houston lawyer who represents Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast in the Harris County criminal investigation. Mr. Daleiden and Ms. Merritt presented those IDs to security at the Planned Planned office to gain entry to the building. “They never denied that they presented a fake ID,” Mr. Schaffer said.

Mr. Schaffer said he believed the misdemeanor charge stemmed from laws prohibiting offers to buy fetal tissue. He said that following the meeting with Planned Parenthood officials in Houston, Mr. Daleiden sent an email to them offering to buy fetal tissue for $1,600 per sample.

“It does not surprise me that a grand jury that chose to correctly apply the law to the evidence that was presented would return this result,” Mr. Schaffer said. “The written charges have not been released publicly yet, so at this point I am working on my knowledge of the investigation.”



~~~~~~~~~~

how many states now have cleared PP???

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/25/2016 6:20:36 PM   
stef


Posts: 10215
Joined: 1/26/2004
Status: offline
I want to see that perp walk!

_____________________________

Welcome to PoliticSpace! If you came here expecting meaningful BDSM discussions, boy are you in the wrong place.

"Hypocrisy has consequences"

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/25/2016 7:21:33 PM   
MrRodgers


Posts: 10542
Joined: 7/30/2005
Status: offline
Why am I not surprised except maybe, that...this is Texas.

_____________________________

You can be a murderous tyrant and the world will remember you fondly but fuck one horse and you will be a horse fucker for all eternity. Catherine the Great

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite.
J K Galbraith

(in reply to stef)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/25/2016 7:43:15 PM   
vincentML


Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline
OMG! The videos were fraudulent? Who woulda thunk it? Planned Parenthood wasn't really selling itty bitty parts of itty bitty unborn babies? Who you gonna believe? the right wing evangelical douche bags or your own trust in decency and honesty on the Left?

(in reply to MrRodgers)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/25/2016 9:36:25 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
not that she matters anymore, but whats carly gonna say now...she saw a different video?


_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 4:11:09 AM   
bounty44


Posts: 6374
Joined: 11/1/2014
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

OMG! The videos were fraudulent? Who woulda thunk it? Planned Parenthood wasn't really selling itty bitty parts of itty bitty unborn babies? Who you gonna believe? the right wing evangelical douche bags or your own trust in decency and honesty on the Left?


and you tell me to "read man read?" with the obvious exception of the defense attorney saying they were "lies", just exactly where in the article is it explicitly said or even implied, that the videos were "fraudulent?" that was not the nature of the case before the court.

and except for that they do sell "itty bitt parts of itty bitty unborn babies"---beats me how you could think otherwise. the question isn't whether or not if they do it, the question is whether or not how they were doing it is illegal. nice try though comrade.

"decency and honesty on the left???" oh my goodness this is laughable. never mind for a moment we're talking about killing babies and you have the sensibility to use the word "decency" in relation to it?

and so yeah, im going to believe evangelical Christians who have a moral prohibition against lying, over godless baby killers, or for that matter, godless liberals who have no such prohibition, 100 times out of a 100.

< Message edited by bounty44 -- 1/26/2016 4:19:38 AM >

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 4:26:09 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
LMFAO A moral prohibition against lying,
OMG Im sorry what planet do you live on?
The courts found no wrong doing...they arent the only state to find no wrong doing.
None of the state COURTS s have said PP is guilty of anything.




_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to bounty44)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 4:30:21 AM   
bounty44


Posts: 6374
Joined: 11/1/2014
Status: offline
nice bit of spin by the left on carly Fiorina.

im pretty sure, though I could be wrong, that she didn't say she had seen the actual thing herself that she was describing concerning the video---the explanation after the fact was she had seen someone in the video who had indeed witnessed and described it, as she did.

the pro baby killing crowd wants to make her out to be a liar. the rest of us know that while she wasn't speaking definitively accurately enough to avoid some confusion, she was telling the essence of the truth.

and speaking of "spin"---nice bit of editing by either you or your source, and since you didn't include the link, its impossible to know.

some meaningful things that were left out:

quote:

In a statement Monday night, Mr. Daleiden said: “The Center for Medical Progress uses the same undercover techniques that investigative journalists have used for decades in exercising our First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and of the press, and follows all applicable laws. We respect the processes of the Harris County district attorney, and note that buying fetal tissue requires a seller as well. Planned Parenthood still cannot deny the admissions from their leadership about fetal organ sales captured on video for all the world to see.”

Planned Parenthood still cannot deny the admissions from their leadership about fetal organ sales captured on video for all the world to see.”

The state attorney general, Ken Paxton, said in a statement: “The fact remains that the videos exposed the horrific nature of abortion and the shameful disregard for human life of the abortion industry. The state’s investigation of Planned Parenthood is ongoing.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/2-abortion-foes-behind-planned-parenthood-videos-are-indicted.html

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 4:32:48 AM   
bounty44


Posts: 6374
Joined: 11/1/2014
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LMFAO A moral prohibition against lying,
OMG Im sorry what planet do you live on?
The courts found no wrong doing...they arent the only state to find no wrong doing.
None of the state COURTS s have said PP is guilty of anything.



OMG I live on a planet where Christians have a moral prohibition against lying. OMG exactly what planet do you live on? and how ironic you invoke "OMG" in an attempt to be mocking while using the very source of the moral prohibition.

and all your rambling after that about the courts finding no wrong doing is completely irrelevant to that point.

that said, I don't know how many states haven't found PP innocent or guilty, it seems you might not either since you have posted the information.




< Message edited by bounty44 -- 1/26/2016 4:37:12 AM >

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 4:45:58 AM   
bounty44


Posts: 6374
Joined: 11/1/2014
Status: offline
quote:

HOUSTON, January 25, 2016 (LifeSiteNews)...

On Monday, a grand jury in Harris County, Texas, brought no charges against Planned Parenthood, but indicted David Daleiden and a female associate. The Houston jurors charge the pair with a felony for tampering with a governmental record and a misdemeanor for attempting to purchase human organs.

The organization behind the undercover Planned Parenthood videos is publicly defending itself from charges that its investigators actually attempted to purchase human organs - saying that if it is guilty for trying to purchase aborted babies' body parts, Planned Parenthood should be indicted for agreeing to sell them...

"We respect the processes of the Harris County District Attorney, and note that buying fetal tissue requires a seller, as well," the group said. "Planned Parenthood still cannot deny the admissions from their leadership about fetal organ sales captured on video for all the world to see..."

Daleiden filmed the director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Melissa Farrell saying that the fees paid for fetal body parts add tremendous “diversification of the revenue stream” for the regional affiliate of the nation's leading abortion provider.

Another video showed Dr. Savita Ginde, the vice president and medical director of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains (PPRM), saying her Colorado-based affiliate would prefer to be paid for each body part extracted. “I think a per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it,” she said.

[nah, they aren't selling and/or profiting from those "itty bitty parts" from those "itty bitty unborn babies"]

To date, Planned Parenthood affiliates face no charges for offering to sell human organs, although multiple investigations continue at the state and federal level.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/undercover-video-producers-say-planned-parenthood-is-guilty-they-are-innoce

< Message edited by bounty44 -- 1/26/2016 4:48:07 AM >

(in reply to bounty44)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 4:50:07 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

nice bit of spin by the left on carly Fiorina.

im pretty sure, though I could be wrong, that she didn't say she had seen the actual thing herself that she was describing concerning the video---the explanation after the fact was she had seen someone in the video who had indeed witnessed and described it, as she did.

the pro baby killing crowd wants to make her out to be a liar. the rest of us know that while she wasn't speaking definitively accurately enough to avoid some confusion, she was telling the essence of the truth.

and speaking of "spin"---nice bit of editing by either you or your source, and since you didn't include the link, its impossible to know.




WHy dont you look into it, instead of showing your ignorance.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/politics/fact-check-carly-fiorina-anti-abortion-videos/

(CNN)As part of a partnership with factcheck.org, here's a look at a striking claim that Carly Fiorina made during the CNN Republican presidential debate about the contents of an anti-Planned Parenthood video.

FROM FACTCHECK.ORG:

Republican presidential candidates Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump were challenged on false claims they made during the second Republican debate, and both doubled down with more misinformation.

During an appearance on "Fox News Sunday," Carly Fiorina said she has "seen the footage" of an abortion she vividly described during the GOP debate, even after we and other fact checkers reported that no such footage exists in the undercover videos taken at Planned Parenthood clinics.



"A fully formed fetus, its heart still beating, its leg kicking" never happened.
Fact checks are everywhere and so are the videos.
BTW using pro baby killing crowd as a description is neither polite, true, or even acceptable, but I forget you think you are being polite. cough bullshit* cough.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdHKTy7pHL8
heres another one from fox/

She lied and tried to hijack it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=956VPBzREFM


_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to bounty44)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 7:29:49 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
I have all the facts at my fingertips specially for people like you who only believe forced birth choice, and only ever quote right wing partisan bullflop like lifesitenews, which is anti choice pro forced birther ugliness.
SO here lets go...


11 state-led investigations into Planned Parenthood following the release of the “sting” videos by the Center for Medical Progress: Texas, Ohio, Missouri (where there are hearings in the legislature only), Louisiana, Kansas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona (where it is qualified as inspections of clinics only, in compliance with current state law and procedure), Indiana, and Massachusetts.
Massachusetts
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/07/29/healey-mass-planned-parenthood-fully-compliant-with-law/Fc6pYYrY1ONGQvRTEqkWHK/story.html

Kansas
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e2e6821e8c744bd2b65ef599759e1c28/apnewsbreak-kansas-medical-board-clears-planned-parenthood
Washington
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/nov/16/planned-parenthood-in-washington-doesnt-sell-fetal/
Missouri
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-plannedparenthood-missouri-idUSKCN0RS1UR20150928
Pennsylvania
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/251664-pennsylvania-becomes-fifth-state-to-find-no-planned-parenthood-wrongdoing
Georgia
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/georgia-abortion-clinics-follow-law-fetal-remains-/nnJSk/

South Dakota
http://www.kdlt.com/news/local-news/Health-Department-No-Evidence-Of-Fetal-Tissue-Sale-In-State/34668964

Indiana
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/14e6280c406a4d21920c5594107dfdc4/indiana-clears-planned-parenthood-wrongdoing-after-videos

FLorida
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/florida/2015/09/8575790/scotts-office-scrubbed-release-cleared-planned-parenthood
Texas
https://www.yahoo.com/health/tx-lies-and-videotape-a-curious-detail-to-texas-126121259357.html
California....
https://www.yahoo.com/health/in-the-center-for-medical-progress-seventh-127081792747.html
In California, the state is instead investigating the Center for Medical Progress for having engaged in illegal activities — including setting up a shell corporation and the use of fake IDs — in service of their undercover work involving Planned Parenthood representatives.


https://www.yahoo.com/health/in-the-center-for-medical-progress-seventh-127081792747.html
https://www.yahoo.com/health/state-level-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-125533982837.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hhs-to-congress-no-violations-of-fetal-tissue-laws-at-hhs-121410
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/state-has-found-proof-of-fetal-tissue-sales.html


















_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 7:55:01 AM   
bounty44


Posts: 6374
Joined: 11/1/2014
Status: offline
and for even more news:

"Planned Parenthood Sold Hearts and Brains of 18-Week-Old Babies Minutes After Aborting Them"

quote:

A shocking new report reveals the Planned parenthood abortion business in Wisconsin lied about and attempted to cover up its sales of body parts of aborted babies. The new report reveals Planned Parenthood sold the hearts and brains of 18-week-old aborted babies to the University of Wisconsin and harvested the body parts just minutes after aborting the babies.

An Alliance Defending Freedom public records request has revealed that Planned Parenthood’s Wisconsin affiliate provided researchers at the University of Wisconsin–Madison with those body parts despite the fact that both UW and Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin have denied any such exchange. The University of Wisconsin was caught last year buying aborted baby body parts from a middleman who purchased them from Planned Parenthood.

The documents ADF obtained through its state records request include forms and letters from the university and its researchers clearly indicating their arrangement with Planned Parenthood to obtain the baby parts, which were used in medical research that resulted in published studies on fetal hearts and fetal brains in 2014.

The revelation comes just days after the Wisconsin state Senate approved two bills that will help further de-fund the Planned Parenthood abortion business in the Badger State. [bravo]

“Planned Parenthood has once again demonstrated its willingness to cover up its role in the gruesome baby parts trade,” said ADF Senior Counsel Matt Bowman. “Both Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin and UW-Madison publicly denied they had any arrangement to supply baby parts from women undergoing abortion to researchers conducting gruesome experiments, but the documents we obtained prove they were not telling the truth.”

Bowman said the information the legal group obtained directly contradicts public statements Planned Parenthood made.

“Wisconsin legislators have as much reason to be concerned about the scandal-ridden nature of Planned Parenthood as lawmakers in other states and in Congress have,” said ADF Senior Counsel Casey Mattox. “Just as the state is right to end its funding relationship with an organization undeserving of taxpayer money and unworthy of anyone’s trust, it is likewise on firm legal ground to discontinue funding for research that both Planned Parenthood and the University of Wisconsin have felt the need to keep secret.”

In the first hearing on Planned Parenthood, James Bopp, the general counsel for the National Right to Life Committee, told the House Judiciary Committee that Planned Parenthood likely broke multiple federal laws in its sale of aborted babies and their body parts for research.

He said, “Recorded conversations, released by the Center for Medical Progress reveal many legal issues with Planned Parenthood’s procedures and practices regarding fetal tissue procurement.”

During a second hearing, Democrats on the panel complained that the videos showing the abuses at Planned Parenthood were “heavily edited.” But when Republicans on the committee attempted to show the videos, they objected and refused to watch them.

The expose’ videos catching Planned Parenthood officials selling the body parts of aborted babies have shocked the nation. Here is a list of all eleven:

•In the first video: Dr. Deborah Nucatola of Planned Parenthood commented on baby-crushing: “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”
•In the second video: Planned Parenthood’s Dr. Mary Gatter joked, “I want a Lamborghini” as she negotiated the best price for baby parts.
•In the third video: Holly O’Donnell, a former Stem Express employee who worked inside a Planned Parenthood clinic, detailed first-hand the unspeakable atrocities and how she fainted in horror over handling baby legs.
•In the fourth video: Planned Parenthood’s Dr. Savita Ginde stated, “We don’t want to do just a flat-fee (per baby) of like, $200. A per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.” She also laughed while looking at a plate of fetal kidneys that were “good to go.”
•In the fifth video: Melissa Farrell of Planned Parenthood-Gulf Coast in Houston boasted of Planned Parenthood’s skill in obtaining “intact fetal cadavers” and how her “research” department “contributes so much to the bottom line of our organization here, you know we’re one of the largest affiliates, our Research Department is the largest in the United States.”
•In the sixth video: Holly O’Donnell described technicians taking fetal parts without patient consent: “There were times when they would just take what they wanted. And these mothers don’t know. And there’s no way they would know.”
•In the seventh and perhaps most disturbing video: Holly O’Donnell described the harvesting, or “procurement,” of organs from a nearly intact late-term fetus aborted at Planned Parenthood Mar Monte’s Alameda clinic in San Jose, CA. “‘You want to see something kind of cool,’” O’Donnell says her supervisor asked her. “And she just taps the heart, and it starts beating. And I’m sitting here and I’m looking at this fetus, and its heart is beating, and I don’t know what to think.”
•In the eighth video: StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer admits Planned Parenthood sells “a lot of” fully intact aborted babies.
•The ninth video: catches a Planned Parenthood medical director discussing how the abortion company sells fully intact aborted babies — including one who “just fell out” of the womb.
•The 10th video: catches the nation’s biggest abortion business selling specific body parts — including the heart, eyes and “gonads” of unborn babies.The video also shows the shocking ways in which Planned Parenthood officials admit that they are breaking federal law by selling aborted baby body parts for profit.
•Unreleased Videos: Unreleased videos from CMP show Deb Vanderhei of Planned Parenthood caught on tape talking about how Planned Parenthood abortion business affiliates may “want to increase revenue [from selling baby parts] but we can’t stop them…” Another video has a woman talking about the “financial incentives” of selling aborted baby body parts.
•The 11th video: catches a texas Planned Parenthood abortionist planning to sell the intact heads of aborted babies for research. Amna Dermish is caught on tape describing an illegal partial-birth abortion procedure to terminate living, late-term unborn babies which she hopes will yield intact fetal heads for brain harvesting.


and some revealing, but not surprising news:

quote:

The federal law that technically prohibits the sale of aborted babies and their body parts was written by a pro-abortion Congressman decades ago and essentially spells out a process by which sellers of aborted baby body parts can meet certain criteria that allows the sales to be legal. That’s why a Colorado congressman has introduced legislation to totally ban the sales of aborted baby body parts.


http://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/22/planned-parenthood-sold-hearts-and-brains-of-18-week-old-babies-minutes-after-aborting-them/

so baby killing comrades, the issue isn't whether planned parenthood is or is not selling aborted baby parts, THEY ARE. there is no dispute over that. the issue is whether or not they are selling them in compliance with the existing law and in at least some of the cases discovered by the "assholes" in Lucy's post, it appears they are not.

whats more, since the selling period, whether legal or not, has been brought to light, people are rightly disturbed by the process.

(in reply to bounty44)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 8:12:49 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline
Yet the NIH regulates the traffic of fetal tissue, and the nutsuckers doubled that budget. So, as usual, the greasy bastard nutsuckers are the instigators of this.

The good news, they wont starve to death or die of disease uncared for or killed under nutsuckers after their birth.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to bounty44)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 8:41:07 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline
Bounty, you do realise that your "shocking" story goes back to 2010 dont you? before the crackdown on fetal tissue started?
You didnt know that?
you know why?
Because all the video evidence has been found to contain lies and deceptive editing, HENCE the indictment of the CMP people.
SO PLEASE stop pretending that your post is evidence of anything legally wrong
your morals REALLY arent up to snuff on what anyone else thinks, thats Your problem not mine.
I bet you didnt even read all of my links,because you have zero intellectual honesty, you are a sad little joke.


_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 9:18:11 AM   
Phydeaux


Posts: 4828
Joined: 1/4/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Bounty, you do realise that your "shocking" story goes back to 2010 dont you? before the crackdown on fetal tissue started?
You didnt know that?
you know why?
Because all the video evidence has been found to contain lies and deceptive editing, HENCE the indictment of the CMP people.
SO PLEASE stop pretending that your post is evidence of anything legally wrong
your morals REALLY arent up to snuff on what anyone else thinks, thats Your problem not mine.
I bet you didnt even read all of my links,because you have zero intellectual honesty, you are a sad little joke.




Bullshit. The indictment of the CMP people was for creating a false id. Nothing else.

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 9:23:05 AM   
bounty44


Posts: 6374
Joined: 11/1/2014
Status: offline
its not about timing relative to a fetal tissue crackdown, its about what planned parenthood does and is doing. all I said was "more news", so the date is really irrelevant.

unless of course you can show that the present law was written much later? but the lie still remains.

however, the byline on the article is: "Steven Ertelt Jan 22, 2016 | 1:01PM Madison, WI " and the press release in question from pp is from January of this year.

so, sorry comrades, its news right now.

lies and deceptive editing? ah, you are channeling joether I see.

what lies were there exactly and how was the editing "deceptive" such that it didn't represent reality?

and whats more, the indictment had to do with the false drivers licenses and the offer to buy fetal tissue---nothing whatsoever to do with your "lies and deceptive editing" if you want to argue, using logic would be good.

consistent with that, since you didn't quite seem to get this:

quote:

the issue isn't whether planned parenthood is or is not selling aborted baby parts, THEY ARE. there is no dispute over that. the issue is whether or not they are selling them in compliance with the existing law and in at least some of the cases discovered by the "assholes" in Lucy's post, it appears they are not.


note the no presumption of "guilt" in my writing and the circumspect language of "appears"---thus the investigations.

that said, in this case, its less about the law to me, and more about morality and not only is abortion in almost all cases morally despicable, the selling of aborted baby parts adds more icing onto it.

as for all the other ranting, when you cant make arguments, resorting to insults only suffices for lefties.


< Message edited by bounty44 -- 1/26/2016 9:44:09 AM >

(in reply to bounty44)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 9:24:09 AM   
Phydeaux


Posts: 4828
Joined: 1/4/2004
Status: offline
As for the rest, I notice you left off Planned Parenthood disposing of fetal body parts into landfills.
Also there are still several investigations ongoing - a bit premature to say they're exonerated.

(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 9:40:17 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline
Insults by the nazi nutsuckers, no factual credible citations. Nutsuckers never are anything but slovenly toiletlicking oafs.

Of course we had W and the nutsuckers disposing of American soldiers and their body parts in landfills. No criminality there, hah?



_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT - 1/26/2016 10:48:01 AM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

As for the rest, I notice you left off Planned Parenthood disposing of fetal body parts into landfills.
Also there are still several investigations ongoing - a bit premature to say they're exonerated.

actually no..the other states have decl;ined to look into the video bullshit.
And in California, PP are suing CMP..
of course if you have a link to another investigation into the videos by CMP that so many have lied about, please forward the cites.


_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> Planned Parenthood Cleared in Texas....BUT Page: [1] 2 3 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.125