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ORIGINAL: MasterBrentC
Of course I know what socialism means. It's when you take from those who work for what they have and give it to those who refuse to work. It's even been tried in this country but it failed miserably. Just like it fails everywhere it's tried.
Thompson, nice try at diverting the issue but not good enough. You still have two losers on your side of the aisle running for president.
Period.....Paragraph.....End of story.
What a very myopic PoV.
Socialism isn't what you think it is.
Socialism is essentially that everyone who can (usually those that are earning or paying taxes by investments) pay into a single pot that pays for things that benefit the people as whole.
What has been tried in the US is barely a half-hearted effort that isn't exactly a good model to follow.
Proper socialism means that everyone benefits from the social model.
That includes those things that Ron mentioned in post#180 as well as housing, healthcare, social care, policing, fire and other authority services, and many many more.
And actually, most coutries that have it are quite successful at it and do better than those who don't.
Obviously MBC follows a purely capitalistic path and cannot grasp the benefits of socialism.
Perhaps he has the spare $billions in cash to pay for new roads in his neighbourhood, or new fire tenders, or new sewers or water systems, or more police or... yada yada yada.
The US already has the highest healthcare costs in the world and it doesn't enjoy a position in the top 25 of healthcare providers.
Many other countries are in that top 25 and most appear to have some form of socialist approach.
It's not perfect, nothing ever is.
But those countries that have embraced a form of socialism are enjoying better returns and better value than those like the US who haven't done much beyond lip service.
As for the presidential race, Trump is a clown but has a lot of followers.
Those behind him are a train wreck.
He talks of the two losers in the "dumbocrats".
I don't see anyone in the retards club doing any better.
The way I see it at the moment, it looks like Clown Trump Vs Clinton on the final straight.
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