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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Those statistics are from 1945, you mental midget.

Please show any evidence you may have that would indicate that humans in amerika have changed in the past 70 years you phoquing moron.

Demographic changes due to nutrition are well documented. Places like, oh, I dunno, the CDC: http://www.newsmax.com/US/average-weight-man-woman-obese/2015/06/15/id/650546/

The average American male TODAY weighs around 195 pounds. If we presume the military recruits are a little trimmer, you can figure 180 as a reasonable average.

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Even a phoquing moron would/should know that the poor speicmens you mention were not allowed in the military and the sizes in the article cited are for those who were in the military and not the rejects dumb ass.

No, these were inductees who could wash out for a whole bunch of reasons. Generally speaking poor nutrition contributed to reduced height and weight as well as poorer health. Consequently, getting in didn't mean you were healthy and capable, it meant you passed the initial physical, you fuckwit.

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Note that this was also before President Truman signed Executive Order 9981 which desegregated the armed services.
More than 2.5 million blacks sereved in the military durring ww2 you racist moron.

No. They didn't - you apparently have trouble reading as well as thinking. Less than 4,000 African Americans were serving in the military in 1941. By the time 1945 rolled around, there were approximately 125,000 African Americans serving overseas. Overall there were 1.2 million African Americans serving in various roles including the African American Women's auxiliaries. However the units were strictly segregated and the total number of African Americans serving never reached the 10.6% mark which represented their proportion of the population. Nowdays, African Americans constitute 13.2% of the military, but during the period from July 1, 1944, to June 30, 1945, African Americans only made up 0.8% of inductees in the US Army.

So, basically... you're wrong. Again. This is becoming a habit of yours.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Consequently today's army has more African American servicemen and overall taller, more muscular and heavier soldiers than the lily-whites of 1945. And the weight of infantryman packs is also beyond dispute.

You are the only one who believe that because if you had been in the army would know better than to say such stupid shit.

Anybody who can read believes that because the facts are pretty fucking plain. Plus the military tends to try and recruit from an underclass. And generally underclasses are either ethnic minorities, poor or both.

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So, yes - you're arguing with the Army about their pack sizes. In inaccessible terrain - such as in Afghanistan - soldiers might be required to carry the Emergency Approach March Load which is indeed between 120 and 150 pounds as documented at http://www.natick.army.mil/about/pao/2004/04-03.htm

Basically, you're wrong. Suck it up.

Basically you are full of shit and need to learn to read. What your cite says in the very first line is:
Nowhere in Afghanistan did Lt. Col. Charles Dean see the folkloric 120-pound rucksack reputed to be carried by a dismounted infantryman in combat.

That talks about one individual's experience, you fucking moron. In the same article it talks about Emergency Approach March Loads of 120 to 142 pounds.

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A little farther down it says:

A fighting load is everything worn or carried except a rucksack and should be held to less than 48 pounds,

Do you just open your mouth to change feet?

Do you just open yours to switch cocks?

IN THE SAME ARTICLE I SENT YOU it quotes the following: "After reviewing the data, the average rifleman's fighting load was 63 pounds, which meant he was carrying on average 36 percent of his body weight before strapping on a rucksack. "

If 36 percent of his body weight is 63 pounds, then the bodyweight they're talking about is (can you do math?) 175 pounds.

Tadaaaa! Christ, you're bad at this.

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ORIGINAL: ImperialPath

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Those statistics are from 1945, you mental midget.

Please show any evidence you may have that would indicate that humans in amerika have changed in the past 70 years you phoquing moron.

Demographic changes due to nutrition are well documented. Places like, oh, I dunno, the CDC: http://www.newsmax.com/US/average-weight-man-woman-obese/2015/06/15/id/650546/

The average American male TODAY weighs around 195 pounds. If we presume the military recruits are a little trimmer, you can figure 180 as a reasonable average.

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Even a phoquing moron would/should know that the poor speicmens you mention were not allowed in the military and the sizes in the article cited are for those who were in the military and not the rejects dumb ass.

No, these were inductees who could wash out for a whole bunch of reasons. Generally speaking poor nutrition contributed to reduced height and weight as well as poorer health. Consequently, getting in didn't mean you were healthy and capable, it meant you passed the initial physical, you fuckwit.

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Note that this was also before President Truman signed Executive Order 9981 which desegregated the armed services.
More than 2.5 million blacks sereved in the military durring ww2 you racist moron.

No. They didn't - you apparently have trouble reading as well as thinking. Less than 4,000 African Americans were serving in the military in 1941. By the time 1945 rolled around, there were approximately 125,000 African Americans serving overseas. Overall there were 1.2 million African Americans serving in various roles including the African American Women's auxiliaries. However the units were strictly segregated and the total number of African Americans serving never reached the 10.6% mark which represented their proportion of the population. Nowdays, African Americans constitute 13.2% of the military, but during the period from July 1, 1944, to June 30, 1945, African Americans only made up 0.8% of inductees in the US Army.

So, basically... you're wrong. Again. This is becoming a habit of yours.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Consequently today's army has more African American servicemen and overall taller, more muscular and heavier soldiers than the lily-whites of 1945. And the weight of infantryman packs is also beyond dispute.

You are the only one who believe that because if you had been in the army would know better than to say such stupid shit.

Anybody who can read believes that because the facts are pretty fucking plain. Plus the military tends to try and recruit from an underclass. And generally underclasses are either ethnic minorities, poor or both.

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So, yes - you're arguing with the Army about their pack sizes. In inaccessible terrain - such as in Afghanistan - soldiers might be required to carry the Emergency Approach March Load which is indeed between 120 and 150 pounds as documented at http://www.natick.army.mil/about/pao/2004/04-03.htm

Basically, you're wrong. Suck it up.

Basically you are full of shit and need to learn to read. What your cite says in the very first line is:
Nowhere in Afghanistan did Lt. Col. Charles Dean see the folkloric 120-pound rucksack reputed to be carried by a dismounted infantryman in combat.

That talks about one individual's experience, you fucking moron. In the same article it talks about Emergency Approach March Loads of 120 to 142 pounds.

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A little farther down it says:

A fighting load is everything worn or carried except a rucksack and should be held to less than 48 pounds,

Do you just open your mouth to change feet?

Do you just open yours to switch cocks?

IN THE SAME ARTICLE I SENT YOU it quotes the following: "After reviewing the data, the average rifleman's fighting load was 63 pounds, which meant he was carrying on average 36 percent of his body weight before strapping on a rucksack. "

If 36 percent of his body weight is 63 pounds, then the bodyweight they're talking about is (can you do math?) 175 pounds.

Tadaaaa! Christ, you're bad at this.

New recruits are not washed out due to low or high weight or any problems that can be remedied through proper diet and training. That includes most recruits. For example, the American basic training diet is so well designed that it will cause low weight individuals to gain 25-30 lbs in six to eight weeks and high weight individuals to lose 20 lbs in the same time with both building muscle. It is an amazing thing to experience and clearly is something the American military has developed using decades of experience.

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ORIGINAL: littleclip

the military is begining to recruit women for all combat roles. the plans are under review, there could be women serving in the former all male marine and navy infantry.
how do you see this good bad undecided

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....having them as a part of the forces just makes it a better force more capable in a more diverse world.

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ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67

I think women in the armed forces is a benefit, but not in all areas.
Men are much stronger on the average. Honestly I don't believe it would be fair to a man to have a physically lesser in areas such as hand to hand combat as a back up.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Funny, the Kurdish women seem to manage.

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ORIGINAL: littleclip

the military is begining to recruit women for all combat roles. the plans are under review, there could be women serving in the former all male marine and navy infantry.
how do you see this good bad undecided

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Consequently today's army has more African American servicemen and overall taller, more muscular and heavier soldiers than the lily-whites of 1945. And the weight of infantryman packs is also beyond dispute.

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

There is NO WAY we should allow women in the front lines.

Period.

No.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

There is NO WAY we should allow women in the front lines.

Period.

No.

You're talking about a problem that only happens once a month, AtUrCervix. What does that matter?

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I think it's fine that American males be allowed to join the military. Though the rest of the world considers them to be kind of weak, flaccid and pampered, many of them are able to make the grade, given the right training.

Is this a fair view, or is it political correctness gone mad?
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I am so tired. Please help us.
I never want to talk to your sorry fucking ass again.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I think it's fine that American males be allowed to join the military. Though the rest of the world considers them to be kind of weak, flaccid and pampered, many of them are able to make the grade, given the right training.

Is this a fair view, or is it political correctness gone mad?

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ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I think it's fine that American males be allowed to join the military. Though the rest of the world considers them to be kind of weak, flaccid and pampered, many of them are able to make the grade, given the right training.

Is this a fair view, or is it political correctness gone mad?
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I am so tired. Please help us.
I never want to talk to your sorry fucking ass again.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

I think it's fine that American males be allowed to join the military. Though the rest of the world considers them to be kind of weak, flaccid and pampered, many of them are able to make the grade, given the right training.

Is this a fair view, or is it political correctness gone mad?