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mnottertail -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 3:53:36 PM)

Bork can suck my dick. He was a nutsucker retard. is the ICC prohibited by the states? I must have missed that. So, what is the preponderance of 50? have they held a convention and forbid it with ratification? No, fuck those shiteating mulletwearing no teeth welfare grubbing red states. Strict constitutionalism. Suck my dick you fucking drain on America. Thats my take Rodge.




thompsonx -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 4:08:53 PM)


ORIGINAL: teentie

many years ago , we in u.k had a female prime minister, she did a wonderful job.


Do you mean boudicca?




AtUrCervix -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 5:03:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

No misogyny here.

Just a question for all strict Constitutionalists out there.

Article II of the Constitution outlines the powers of the President. It ONLY uses male pronouns. ("He", "His")

Would a female President not be entitled to those powers sans a Constitutional Amendment? We can all rationalize on WHY the Constitution was written that way, but that doesn't answer the question.

Would someone challenge it, if a woman were elected President? Keep in mind the Constitution does not say the President must be male, but rather seems to assume that it is the case.


What do you think?


It was looooong ago deemed that "he/his" meant....."us/they/them".

## Thus endeth the lesson ##




thompsonx -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 5:20:24 PM)


ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

It was looooong ago deemed that "he/his" meant....."us/they/them".

## Thus endeth the lesson ##

At the time of the writing of the constitution women could not vote. Thus could not stand for public office.




Real0ne -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 6:11:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

"The Constitution isn't a contract,

false
No. True. The Constitution is not a contract. A contract contains several ideas, the notion of offer and acceptance, an exchange of value and legal intent. The constitution is not optional, does not constitute offer and acceptance and is not consented to by anyone in the USA. It is a fundamental assertion of governmental authority over the governed.

Put bluntly, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.


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it's the fundamental law of the land,

true

which no statute may contravene."

false


Might want to hit a few books to understand why.


Now that's some real irony right there. I'm afraid you have no idea what the FUCK you're talking about. Any statute which attempts to contravene the Constitution may be held void. Period.


ah well you really should learn the english language before you post what you think are facts regarding law, since law is very specific. may not contravene and may be held void have entirely 2 different meanings. may does no insure they WILL be held void. (MOST ARE NOT). At least you are trying to shift the meaning to correct it, will give you that much credit.

Now this one made me laugh: The Constitution is not a contract.

So then the declaration of independence is one big fucking lie then right?

Its really NOT consent of the governed, its slaves of the gublmint. (which is a fact but we are discussing law of the delusional after all)

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The Declaration of Independence says, “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” This means that government gets all its power from the people. The people set up the government.






AtUrCervix -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 6:40:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

It was looooong ago deemed that "he/his" meant....."us/they/them".

## Thus endeth the lesson ##

At the time of the writing of the constitution women could not vote. Thus could not stand for public office.



Well.....last time I checked....the Suffragettes kind of eviscerated that issue.




thompsonx -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 6:58:08 PM)


ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
ORIGINAL: thompsonx



It was looooong ago deemed that "he/his" meant....."us/they/them".

## Thus endeth the lesson ##

At the time of the writing of the constitution women could not vote. Thus could not stand for public office.



Well.....last time I checked....the Suffragettes kind of eviscerated that issue.

About a 150 years after the constitution was written the suffragettes were successful, remember though ,former slaves were allowed to vote before women were given the franchise...native amerikans later still.




BamaD -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (3/27/2016 7:00:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

No misogyny here.

Just a question for all strict Constitutionalists out there.

Article II of the Constitution outlines the powers of the President. It ONLY uses male pronouns. ("He", "His")

Would a female President not be entitled to those powers sans a Constitutional Amendment? We can all rationalize on WHY the Constitution was written that way, but that doesn't answer the question.

Would someone challenge it, if a woman were elected President? Keep in mind the Constitution does not say the President must be male, but rather seems to assume that it is the case.


What do you think?


It was looooong ago deemed that "he/his" meant....."us/they/them".

## Thus endeth the lesson ##


And this remained until well into the lifetime of some of the people claiming this disqualifies women.




thompsonx -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 6:55:52 AM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

And this remained until well into the lifetime of some of the people claiming this disqualifies women.


Who on this board was alive when women were granted the franchise?




PeonForHer -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 12:59:22 PM)

FR

Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'




BamaD -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 2:45:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.




PeonForHer -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 3:24:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.


I think you read me wrong and that that might be down to my mis-phrasing. I'm sure US adults *do* have qualms about giving guns to toddlers. But my point was that, theoretically, they shouldn't - because, per the 2nd, toddlers are after all *people*.




Lucylastic -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 3:34:20 PM)

You missed the case of the gun rights activist whose toddler shot her in the back?




mnottertail -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 4:08:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.



I giggle like a 9 year old fuckin schoolgirl every time some 2 year old kid shoots their mullet headed toothless ol momma/sister/aunt/girlfriend welfare bitch from the shopping cart at Wal-Mart. The second amendment is definitely a right extended to children,and imbeciles, as our founding fathers intended. "merika!!!!! drops mic.




BamaD -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 8:56:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.


I think you read me wrong and that that might be down to my mis-phrasing. I'm sure US adults *do* have qualms about giving guns to toddlers. But my point was that, theoretically, they shouldn't - because, per the 2nd, toddlers are after all *people*.

That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.
But of course, people who oppose the 2nd come up with ridiculous scenerios and pretend to think the 2nd would support them. A child/toddler can not legally make such decisions for themselfs so the the parents have every right to keep them from guns, just like they have the right to not let them play with matches or sharp objects untill they are old enough.




BamaD -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 8:57:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.



I giggle like a 9 year old fuckin schoolgirl every time some 2 year old kid shoots their mullet headed toothless ol momma/sister/aunt/girlfriend welfare bitch from the shopping cart at Wal-Mart. The second amendment is definitely a right extended to children,and imbeciles, as our founding fathers intended. "merika!!!!! drops mic.

You like to see anyone you disagree with hurt, dead even better.




BamaD -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 8:59:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

You missed the case of the gun rights activist whose toddler shot her in the back?

And every pro gun person on here condemed the parents for their poor jusdgement.




mnottertail -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 9:44:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.



I giggle like a 9 year old fuckin schoolgirl every time some 2 year old kid shoots their mullet headed toothless ol momma/sister/aunt/girlfriend welfare bitch from the shopping cart at Wal-Mart. The second amendment is definitely a right extended to children,and imbeciles, as our founding fathers intended. "merika!!!!! drops mic.

You like to see anyone you disagree with hurt, dead even better.


That statement my RIFfed welfare friend, explicitly states that you agree with her and her childs actions as a patriotic act. See if you can fix your logic a bit, while shooting pizza boys. As it stands it is a perfect example of imbecilic nutsuckerism though.




BamaD -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/1/2016 10:03:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.



I giggle like a 9 year old fuckin schoolgirl every time some 2 year old kid shoots their mullet headed toothless ol momma/sister/aunt/girlfriend welfare bitch from the shopping cart at Wal-Mart. The second amendment is definitely a right extended to children,and imbeciles, as our founding fathers intended. "merika!!!!! drops mic.

You like to see anyone you disagree with hurt, dead even better.


That statement my RIFfed welfare friend, explicitly states that you agree with her and her childs actions as a patriotic act. See if you can fix your logic a bit, while shooting pizza boys. As it stands it is a perfect example of imbecilic nutsuckerism though.

A at no point did I say I agreed wiyh people using bad judgement,
B at no point did I say I was riffted, and I wasn't
C I protect pizza men, I don't attack them

Wrong on all counts, par for you.




thompsonx -> RE: Can a woman be President of the United States sans a Constitutional Amendment? (4/2/2016 2:55:31 AM)

ORIGINAL: BamaD

at no point did I say I was riffted, and I wasn't

You have told us that hillery's husband, a demopub, hooked you up with a welfare cheque otherwise you would be on g.r.






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