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respectmen -> Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 1:46:49 PM)

People in here are always whinging about men only wanting a fetish delivery system. Yet, these same people never complain about women only wanting a financial delivery system, such as pro dommes and financial dommes.

What makes them any better??? If you complain about one and not the other, you're a hypocrite on the grounds of criticising a person who only wants one thing from another and nothing more.

If they get to be on here looking for a financial delivery system, so should men who only seek a fetish delivery system. Not to mention, women are never judged on here who only want kinks and nothing more. Why the double standard?



Wayward5oul -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 1:58:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

People in here are always whinging about men only wanting a fetish delivery system. Yet, these same people never complain about women only wanting a financial delivery system, such as pro dommes and financial dommes.

What makes them any better??? If you complain about one and not the other, you're a hypocrite on the grounds of criticising a person who only wants one thing from another and nothing more.

If they get to be on here looking for a financial delivery system, so should men who only seek a fetish delivery system. Not to mention, women are never judged on here who only want kinks and nothing more. Why the double standard?


What are you talking about? People on here complain about findommes all the time.



respectmen -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 2:05:25 PM)

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What are you talking about?


I am talking about for instance that a pro domme would have a higher social standing ground on here than a guy who just wants his kinks fulfilled.




masmiss -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 2:56:25 PM)

The "double standard" is only in your befuddled brain. There are all sorts of people on this site. Any generalization can be applied to any number of members.

You really are quite tiresome.



respectmen -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 3:08:38 PM)

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The "double standard" is only in your befuddled brain.


I've never seen a woman being criticised for only wanting a fetish delivery system. Feel free to point out an example in these forums. There probably is an ISOLATED example somewhere but its not a common theme like it is on men. In this aspect, female sexually seems way more free than male sexuality



Sahar4Blacks -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 4:12:16 PM)

This ought to be good...



LadyPact -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 4:23:10 PM)

Ya know, in nine years here, I have never once seen a thread started that men just looking for a kink delivery system should be booted off of the site. I've never seen threads started that males just looking to have their fetishes served should have a special marker on their profile, if allowed on the site at all, or have to pay to be here. I've never seen a thread complaining about guys just looking for free fun go on for twenty pages about how their choices about kink aren't "real" or that the site wasn't designed to include them because everybody here is supposed to be using this as a dating site.

I'm game. Show me those threads. I promise to resist the temptation to flood your thread with a hundred links b^tching about pros or fin kink for every thread you come up with.

Hey, I'm all for people having their own preferences. If you don't want to pay a pro, don't. If you don't want to engage with someone who only wants to use you as a fetish delivery system, don't. All I ask is you give other people the same freedom of choices that you have.



MissKatya -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 4:30:02 PM)


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I've never seen a woman being criticised for only wanting a fetish delivery system. Feel free to point out an example in these forums. There probably is an ISOLATED example somewhere but its not a common theme like it is on men. In this aspect, female sexually seems way more free than male sexuality


Just look at every post that has the words "Pro-domme" and "Findomme" as a subject.

I'm sure you will find a few.



Sahar4Blacks -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/2/2016 4:56:33 PM)

There are Spam Dommes as well, lol.



OsideGirl -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/4/2016 2:40:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

People in here are always whinging about men only wanting a fetish delivery system. Yet, these same people never complain about women only wanting a financial delivery system, such as pro dommes and financial dommes.
To be accurate, a Pro-Domme actually IS a fetish delivery system.

Visiting a Pro-Domme is a business agreement. The customer wants a service and the other person provides the service. Not sure why you think that conducting a service based business is a bad thing. It's how life is conducted. I have a guy that mows the lawn, should we criticize him for using me as "financial delivery system"?

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What makes them any better??? If you complain about one and not the other, you're a hypocrite on the grounds of criticising a person who only wants one thing from another and nothing more.
You're confusing the "what" with the "how". A Pro-Domme and Fin-Domme are upfront about what they want. Most of the men that use the approach..."I want to serve you, by you fulfilling my laundry list of kinks.

I'll also add that 99% of the FinDommes get flambe'd when they come onto the forums, so your idea that they don't get criticized for it is wrong. In fact, there have been campaigns to remove them completely from the site. Has there been a campaign to remove men that only want a fetish delivery system from the site? Nope.

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If they get to be on here looking for a financial delivery system, so should men who only seek a fetish delivery system.
Of course they can, but they would get less backlash if they were honest about what they're seeking, which the majority aren't.

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Not to mention, women are never judged on here who only want kinks and nothing more. Why the double standard?

Because they're quite rare and most men won't turn down string free sex.



mnottertail -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/4/2016 2:50:57 PM)

OP, I will whine about any fucking thing you want, if you pay me.



AtUrCervix -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/4/2016 5:55:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

People in here are always whinging about men only wanting a fetish delivery system. Yet, these same people never complain about women only wanting a financial delivery system, such as pro dommes and financial dommes.

What makes them any better??? If you complain about one and not the other, you're a hypocrite on the grounds of criticising a person who only wants one thing from another and nothing more.

If they get to be on here looking for a financial delivery system, so should men who only seek a fetish delivery system. Not to mention, women are never judged on here who only want kinks and nothing more. Why the double standard?



Tits. And Pussy.



FieryOpal -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/5/2016 1:51:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen
People in here are always whinging about men only wanting a fetish delivery system.
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Not to mention, women are never judged on here who only want kinks and nothing more. Why the double standard?

Because they're quite rare and most men won't turn down string free sex.

... Not only that, but where have you seen a thread where a female OP posts about a shortage of male play partners willing to be her kink delivery system?

The woman is still the fetish delivery system for the male fetishist seeking his fetish object.

OP, you are comparing apples and oranges. Yet again.



mnottertail -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/5/2016 1:55:08 PM)

There are those cutie little duck lipped strict mistress things looking for paypigs on a drive-by, but probably does not rise to the level of threads.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/5/2016 1:58:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: respectmen

People in here are always whinging about men only wanting a fetish delivery system. Yet, these same people never complain about women only wanting a financial delivery system, such as pro dommes and financial dommes.

What makes them any better??? If you complain about one and not the other, you're a hypocrite on the grounds of criticising a person who only wants one thing from another and nothing more.

If they get to be on here looking for a financial delivery system, so should men who only seek a fetish delivery system. Not to mention, women are never judged on here who only want kinks and nothing more. Why the double standard?




I need a free dental care delivery system, can I start complaining that I have to pay my dentist for skilled work?



respectmen -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/8/2016 12:56:30 AM)

Men who criticise pro dommes are considered to be trolling and/or socially inept within the BDSM community. Women who criticise men who only want their kinks on are not considered to be trolling and/or socially inept within the BDSM community.



ReMakeYou -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/8/2016 1:19:24 AM)

"Men seeking a fetish delivery system" is a term used by women to describe something they dislike.

While the term "prodomme" is rather abused by people who want a quick fix while having no concern for their supposed subs (and those people, as noted repeatedly, do often come under fire), it also sees use from people who work hard to maintain a place of business and keep their clients happy. I don't know your stance on the people who try to provide a good service as opposed to those always looking out for the next sucker, but I wonder how you'd refer to them regardless.

So as a terminology question, you're asking why a label specifically focused on unwanted behavior is looked at differently from a label that can be used to describe something much more neutral. If you're talking about examples of female specific clearly bad behavior being treated more lightly than male specific clearly bad behavior, I'm going to want to see some examples.



respectmen -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/8/2016 1:31:53 AM)

ReMakeYou

Would they still do it if they were not being paid? That's where the rub kicks in on your argument.

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you're asking why a label specifically focused on unwanted behavior is looked at differently from a label that can be used to describe something much more neutral.


As people were saying right in this thread, pro dommes cop a lot of slack. So it can easily be classified as "unwanted behaviour" too. Or is it only important when a handful of women show resent in the behaviour of the opposite gender? It is also neutral for the men who only want their kinks on compared to the women who only want their kinks on.

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If you're talking about examples of female specific clearly bad behavior being treated more lightly than male specific clearly bad behavior, I'm going to want to see some examples.


You can feel free to show me an example in this forum of a woman being ridiculed for only being focused on kinks and not wanting something more.



W0rshipKitty -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/8/2016 1:46:07 AM)

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Would they still do it if they were not being paid? That's where the rub kicks in on your argument.



Would most people do a job if they weren't being paid for it? Also, why exactly do people feel the need to criticise sex workers? As if we all don’t sell labor under capitalism. BDSM isn't some sacred ritual that only the truly worthy are allowed to participate in. It's a variant of sex. Almost every single aspect of sex has been monetised in some way. Expect it's only seen as immoral when women are using it for their own advancement.



respectmen -> RE: Fetish delivery system vs financial delivery system (4/8/2016 2:03:32 AM)

worshipkitty

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Would most people do a job if they weren't being paid for it?


My stance against what ReMakeYou said, if they actually "cared" for their clients, money would not be involved.

That said, this goes back to the fact that they only want a financial delivery system. If they can't get that, there is no go to anything further whatsoever. This is no better than a man only wanting a fetish delivery system.

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Also, why exactly do people feel the need to criticise sex workers?


For the same reason people criticise men who only want a fetish delivery system.

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Expect it's only seen as immoral when women are using it for their own advancement.


Except when men are only looking for a fetish delivery system.



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