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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 4:55:36 PM

respectmen

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As its always women rejecting nearly every male on the website while they are just the average fatass, men are usually having trouble finding any woman interested. It's fair to say that women these days generally do only want to date up.

These BDSM sites are full of fat, middle aged, unemployed women, with a ton of kids, who think they are "it"...when really they deserve to be laughed at and put in their place.

An SSBBW on disability pension would most probably have a better chance in getting her kinks on than the average male on this site.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 5:07:12 PM

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That's offensive and also untrue. It's perhaps your experience of this site. It's hard for everyone here and elsewhere.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 5:30:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

As its always women rejecting nearly every male on the website while they are just the average fatass, men are usually having trouble finding any woman interested. It's fair to say that women these days generally do only want to date up.

These BDSM sites are full of fat, middle aged, unemployed women, with a ton of kids, who think they are "it"...when really they deserve to be laughed at and put in their place.

An SSBBW on disability pension would most probably have a better chance in getting her kinks on than the average male on this site.

It's quite clear that you yourself only want to date up according to your own set of shallow criteria. Pot calling the kettle black.

Where was it you were complaining that there were no beauty contests being held for male chubsters?
You started a thread complaining about men who get criticized for only wanting a (free NSA) fetish delivery system, and why aren't "do-me" males being welcomed with open arms, as if we gals couldn't get that any day of the week if that's all we wanted from a man.

I don't think you're being rejected for being overweight, or lacking in the looks dept., or possibly not having gainful employment.

You don't have to be fat, middle-aged, unemployed, be paying a ton of child support, or scraping by on disability benefits to be considered a loser. That's your personal opinion, not necessarily shared by others.

Having a suckass attitude toward women (and toward life in general), and the plethora of character deficits on your part, is what makes you a loser and naught else.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 5:30:50 PM

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 5:39:42 PM

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I read of some piece of research somewhere that men tended to feel more comfortable with a woman they considered to be more attractive than them, while women tended to be more comfortable with a man they considered to be less attractive than them.

I can't be bothered to look for this research and it could all be garbage, of course.

Throw the garage out the window.

One missing letter and I'm stuck with just about the most surreal image that's ever got into my brain.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 5:52:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
As its always women rejecting nearly every male on the website while they are just the average fatass, men are usually having trouble finding any woman interested. It's fair to say that women these days generally do only want to date up.

These BDSM sites are full of fat, middle aged, unemployed women, with a ton of kids, who think they are "it"...when really they deserve to be laughed at and put in their place.

An SSBBW on disability pension would most probably have a better chance in getting her kinks on than the average male on this site.

Half bookmarking, half asking a question here. (I'll come back to it after I'm done being out playing tonight.)

As a bottom, what is your equivalent to the number of hours that I learned to and spent time practicing to throw a whip? The amount of time I spent being an accomplished wax player? The research that I did on needles? Electrical play? Basic rope ties? Various styles of impact play? Anatomy? Blood porn pathogens? Proper cleaning techniques?

That's time. Should we even go into the thousands of dollars that I've spent on gear? The travel to attend classes presented by other people? The work I've put into the classes I've done?

What do you think it is? 50:1? 100:1?

As a top, when I go out to do pick up play, I do want someone worth my time based on my criteria. I do want the good bottoms because I'm a good top and I've made an actual investment at being good at what I do. figure, it's a quid pro quo kind of thing.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 6:17:07 PM

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Good points, LadyPact. You can and you should have the pick of the litter as you see fit.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

SSBBW?

Social Security? Big Beautiful Woman -- He's Australian, so I don't know what they call it over there.
Just saying.

FYI respectmen, there is a female poster here who prefers larger men, specifically with big thighs and big butts, and you had no rebuttal to this.

You are like a dog chasing his tail with your broken-record meme about the "injustice" of your failure to appeal to a woman based upon the self-entitlement issues you have relative to getting pity fucks and pity play-on-demand.

Further, what's with derisively putting anybody in their place, and what place would that be -- alongside of you in the reject pile?

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 7:14:34 PM

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As a bottom, what is your equivalent to the number of hours that I learned to and spent time practicing to throw a whip? The amount of time I spent being an accomplished wax player? The research that I did on needles? Electrical play? Basic rope ties? Various styles of impact play? Anatomy? Blood porn pathogens? Proper cleaning techniques?

That's time. Should we even go into the thousands of dollars that I've spent on gear? The travel to attend classes presented by other people? The work I've put into the classes I've done?

You either don't get my point or you are totally dodging my point. This isn't about if you are a professional kinkster. This is about women in general thinking that their worth as a woman is more than the worth of a man. I am talking about the average kinkster here, not professional dommes or bottoms.

FieryOpal

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FYI respectmen, there is a female poster here who prefers larger men, specifically with big thighs and big butts, and you had no rebuttal to this.

This doesn't refute anything. You are totally dodging the fact that there is huge amount of fetlife groups and websites in general that appreciate BBWs while there is nowhere near as much appreciation for big men. The fact of the matter is that fat women are more accepted than fat men.

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You are like a dog chasing his tail with your broken-record meme about the "injustice" of your failure to appeal to a woman based upon the self-entitlement issues you have relative to getting pity fucks and pity play-on-demand.

Believe what you want and throw as many diversionary ad hominem tactics you like, I'm not the one that's dodging the major problem here. The reality is that in the dating world, in the western world, the worth of a male is considered lesser than the worth of a woman. That's why it's women doing most of the rejecting and getting most of the offers while its men getting far less. That is also why an morbidly obese woman with no job has it easier than the average slim built employed male on this site.

Women are generally judged far less for having no job, no car, not owning a house, not living alone, being a fatty, and all the other stuff men get judged on.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 7:25:41 PM

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SSBBW?

Supersized big beautiful woman

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 7:33:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: DocStrange

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

SSBBW?

Supersized big beautiful woman

Thank you

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 8:40:28 PM

LadyPact

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Due to circumstances beyond my control (a really serious road block on the main highway) we are not at the club tonight. So, let's get back to this:

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
You either don't get my point or you are totally dodging my point. This isn't about if you are a professional kinkster.

You're right. It's not.

If anybody around this joint thinks I am a professional Dominant, I consider it their own fault and/or stupidity. Could I? Yeah, I probably think I could. Am I? No.

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This is about women in general thinking that their worth as a woman is more than the worth of a man. I am talking about the average kinkster here, not professional dommes or bottoms.

Well, here's where you jump the shark.

I *am* the average kinkster out there. I judge myself on topping skills. Whether or not I have tits isn't a part of this for me. If it is for you, I might suggest that you check your priorities.

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That's why it's women doing most of the rejecting and getting most of the offers while its men getting far less.

Ummmm... No, it's not.

I reject on CM because it's kinda the bottom of the barrel for me. I go out. I meet people in real life. I play. Not because I'm the cute chick in the size 2 skirt, but because, as a top, I've got some cred. In this whole topping/bottoming/pick up play kind of thing, I might just be a decent top.

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That is also why an morbidly obese woman with no job has it easier than the average slim built employed male on this site.

Seriously? I've never asked anybody what their net worth was when I was doing pre-scene negotiations. Have you?

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Women are generally judged far less for having no job, no car, not owning a house, not living alone, being a fatty, and all the other stuff men get judged on.

Dude, your insecurities are showing.

You don't think I get judged? It happens all of the time. Whether I'm being engaged for pick up play, going to do a demo, or even just pics I post.

No. Nobody asks me how much I earn a year if they are looking for a top to have fun with. When you go to the club, is that what they ask you?

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 9:16:06 PM

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as a service oriented slave i am not interested in the age but the level of skill and the trust i have with the Domme i prefer female Dommes to male.
i dont date up or down age or income i base it on how i can serve and how i can be valued by my owner

for those who think LadyPact is just a ordinary player they are very wrong She has spent many hours learning and more practicing the skills she uses.
She really could be a PRO dom but prefers to mentor and learn. She really is the most approachable Domme there is

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 10:18:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

As its always women rejecting nearly every male on the website while they are just the average fatass, men are usually having trouble finding any woman interested. It's fair to say that women these days generally do only want to date up.

These BDSM sites are full of fat, middle aged, unemployed women, with a ton of kids, who think they are "it"...when really they deserve to be laughed at and put in their place.

An SSBBW on disability pension would most probably have a better chance in getting her kinks on than the average male on this site.

Are you just talking about online dating sites? Do you go to munches, meet-ups and clubs?

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/8/2016 10:30:22 PM

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A follow up to what Cindy asked, I wonder if RM thinks that 'nilla chicks have the same attitudes. Because his rants sound almost exactly identical to some of the things I hear frustrated guys say about vanilla dating sites/scenes as well.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/9/2016 9:20:44 AM

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An SSBBW on disability pension would most probably have a better chance in getting her kinks on than the average male on this site.

And whose fault is that?

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/9/2016 2:19:45 PM

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I was reading a post about BDSM and dating sites. The posters said that typically women "date up" and men "date down". So that means if Barb was "dating up" and met Dan, that means Dan was "dating down" and met Barb.

I was wondering if this is just the opinion of a few. I wanted to ask a general question and see if people believe that women date up and men date down

Women naturally engage in hypergamy, although many people misunderstand what that means. Hypergamy means marrying someone who is socially superior - not necessarily financially superior.

Men, on the other hand, look for youth, beauty and sensuality. Men will naturally tend to pair up with women who are the youngest, most attractive and most sexually enjoyable women with the least amount of existing entanglements (IE: children or ex-husbands) possible.

Men don't "date down" because men don't really think in terms of social class when it comes to women.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/9/2016 2:50:45 PM

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On this and the other thread, people mean different things when they speak of dating up or down. Some think in terms of physical attractiveness, some of social standing, others of financial status. For me, I need to "date" intellectually "up". I look for men more intelligent than I am. Whether they make more/less money or what social place they occupy isn't my criteria.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/9/2016 8:40:40 PM

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Respectmen posted: "Women are generally judged far less for having no job, no car, not owning a house, not living alone, being a fatty, and all the other stuff men get judged on. "

I wish you could read the mail I've received over the years. People, men and women, are sometimes awful and mean and behave with very little humanity.

You sound very bitter and resentful. I feel badly for you, and hope you resolve these issues, which I don't think you can do until you accept that you can't always control the crappy things some people do. What you can do is chose to be a better person and not lump all people (women) into a single category. You can chose to ask yourself how different are you, when you disparage a woman for her weight or social standing; from the very thing you despise? If you hate this behavior in others, don't emulate it.

If you feel an injustice is taking place, you are unlikely to change things by emulating that very injustice.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/9/2016 10:14:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: DocStrange

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

SSBBW?

Supersized big beautiful woman

Of course. How silly of me.

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Respectmen posted: "Women are generally judged far less for having no job, no car, not owning a house, not living alone, being a fatty, and all the other stuff men get judged on. "
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If you feel an injustice is taking place, you are unlikely to change things by emulating that very injustice.

rmen is only myopically concerned with not getting his. Nothing else matters to him.

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RE: Do you think women date up and men date down? - 4/9/2016 11:22:19 PM

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