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I think you need to look up the word hypocrite.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

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I think you need to look up the word hypocrite.

Yep, for example, a person who only wants to date another who earns more but would never date someone who earns less.

A perfect example of hypocrisy.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

So a person who will only date another that is better than them and expect that other person to comply while they would never comply the other way around is not a hypocrite?

Dumbass!

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Shameless hypocrite.

And a chauvinist who thinks her worth of being a woman is more than the worth of a man.

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On one hand, women are independent and don't need men. On the other, they expect a man who earns more lol.

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When a man feels entitled to sex with the average woman or any woman,

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze]
You'd be surprised how many other women had the same problem, as I said, I'm well rid of them and much happier now with a guy who doesn't care or doesn't have such a fragile ego, for a while we discussed if he might give up his rather high income job to do something he might enjoy more, but then decided (I said I'd be happy whatever as he'd do the same for me) to stick with it and just have a bit of a nest egg for the future.

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I disagree with people being paid according to the value they bring, as I think nurses and carers (at least in Europe) do a tremendously valuable job and are underpaid. I think Europe is in this respect also a bit more "old fashioned" and guys tend to have a problem with the woman seemingly being more successful, because there seems to be peer pressure and ribbing from their friends.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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people are paid accordingly to the value they bring

LOL

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Nope.

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Shameless, maybe. Hypocrite, no. Chauvinist, no. She never said that an unemployed man is worth less than an unemployed woman, nor that the unemployed in general have less personal worth than those who are currently employed.

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More unsubstantiated stuff you're making up, linking two separate sets of circumstances together. There are some women who may feel they are independent and don't need a man, just as there are some men who seek to stay unencumbered and say they don't need a woman. You have said you don't need a woman your very self, and yet your neediness to have a woman accept you as a sex partner is irrefutably obvious.

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Your idea of dating revolves around hooking up, and not on finding a mate. You're preoccupied with felling trees for short-term gain rather than preserving the forest for long-term posterity.

Others who do not share your outlook on life with such tunnel vision, have every right to adhere to their own personal beliefs and to pursue whomever they choose with whom to merge their individual destinies.

The fact that it is not you, is your personal problem to deal with on your own, not theirs, not ours, not society's burden to assume on your behalf, and has nothing to do with social [in]justice.

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Yep, for example, a person who only wants to date another who earns more but would never date someone who earns less.

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So a person who will only date another that is better than them and expect that other person to comply while they would never comply the other way around is not a hypocrite?

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You need to provide some argument to go along with that :)

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She is a fucking hypocrite when she expects men to date down on someone who earns less while she would never date down on someone who earns less herself.

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You really need to look up the meaning of hypocrisy you silly little girl.

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She is a chauvinist when she thinks her worth as a woman with her socioeconomic status is more worthy than a man with the same socioeconomic standing. This is why she only wants to date a man with a HIGHER socioeconomic standing. The men with the SAME socioeconomic standing aren't good enough for her.

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You are totally missing the point.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen

Lucy, it obviously is when women only want to date a man who earns more.

On one hand, women are independent and don't need men. On the other, they expect a man who earns more lol. I wonder why that is Lucy? If women are independent and don't need men after all, I can't see any logical explanation in the world on why she needs a man who has a better lifestyle than her own.

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Again as you totally miss or dodge the point, I am talking about sense of entitlement, not what style of dating is happening.

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ORIGINAL: respectmen
She is a fucking hypocrite when she expects men to date down on someone who earns less while she would never date down on someone who earns less herself.

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Which is not what I said

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You did not say those women or some women, you silly little boy. You made broad assumptions that when women only want to date men who earn more than they do, that they proclaim how independent they are in not needing a man, and that being independent is defined in monetary terms when it isn't always about financial independence. A woman can be self-sufficient and desire a mate who is also self-sufficient, and a man can easily expect the same in his partner or want to raise his own socioeconomic status. What of it, and why do you have an axe to grind with this?

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You probably want to get with women who are more attractive than you are.

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I'm sure that if you ever did find a "keeper," you would not want to devolve into living a lifestyle which is less than what you are accustomed to under ordinary circumstances. You might on an exceptional basis, but I doubt you would intentionally seek this out--nor would you choose to stay with a woman you and your peers would look down upon for whatever reason(s).

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As for dating styles, you don't have one because "dating" for you is a euphemism for getting laid because evidently your concept of mate selection is limited to your immediate sexual gratification.

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You don't have the foggiest idea how to "date" a woman, so that is why you are stumped and stuck in a rut, while you keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself as you feebly attempt to weigh in on a subject that is well beyond your comprehension.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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You need to provide some argument to go along with that :)

No I don't.

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Would you like to eat them?

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I was assuming that you actually want to make a cohesive point.