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GBaxter -> Is financial domination a genuine part of BDSM ? (5/3/2016 7:58:51 PM)
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I know the topic of financial domination (which I personally consider is very exploitative and is a perversion of BDSM) has been previously well discussed on the forums here, but I was corresponding with a guy, who attacked me and was/is trying to defend it. His comments are below. These aren't my own comments.
- If you said, you don't see how getting paid, to act a show for someone who wants a particular service, qualifies it as BDSM, who said we're paying for a service? Sometimes we get nothing in return and sometimes we're rewarded. It's an act of submission and both parties, that which is giving/sacrificing and that which is receiving as both can get very sexually aroused in the act.
With regards to :
- never seeing a FD, or money pig anywhere in real life, but only online, well given that the very nature of findom is financial control - if I was in public, serving my owner, how would you know? Not all the time, is it providing the cash on hands and knees, being spat on, etc. Sometimes it's just her having the pin number and card in her hands and you end up simply carrying the bags. It's extremely discreet like that.
- never seeing a money pig, or any FD host a workshop, do a demo, or have seen one participate in the BDSM community, there's books, online articles and new dominants do message/contact others more experienced in it. I personally get email notifications from Den of Iniquity and they've had many workshops and some are on findom. Hell, here's one interview on 'Vice' that mentions said workshop:
https://www.vice.com/read/i-went-to-a-class-to-learn-how-to-financially-dominate-men
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-art-of-female-domination-class-3-financial-domination-tickets-12146479447
- never having met a female or male submissive who'd be incredibly stupid enough to want to forward cash to any male or female Fin Dom, without ever actually meeting them in person first, I've done online only for a while, but after I met my ex owner and that developed into a strong D/s, it's hard to go back to online only. However, there's thousands that do online-only. I wouldn't dare call them all stupid, if that's what they enjoy.
- the only people who claim it's a valid fetish being Fin Dommes themselves, if you consider it's akin to being a cyber hooker, while respecting prostitution and the adult entertainment industry, which is where money pigs and Fin Dommes fit better than in the BDSM community, for those of us that are submissive as well, also acknowledge it as a valid fetish.
How is it akin to prostitution, when it doesn't fit the definition? Nor does it always equal adult entertainment. For those of us where findom was a major part of our own personal lives, not public at all - it's hardly adult entertainment. Now, let's compare that to say, foot worship - how many videos online can you find of that? Millions - using your failed logic, I should now relegate all foot worship to adult entertainment and that's it.
- exchanging online time for something someone wants is like a job, so it's not sexual and it's not a fetish and that's where Fin Dommery equates quite well to prostitution, as an FD isn't motivated by sex and usually gains no sexual gratification, I can say from experience on both sides of the coin, it's very much is sexual. So can many others attest to that. Since we're talking about something that's inherently personal, anecdotes is all that can be used as counter-evidence and thus, must be accepted.
- FD's in 99.99% of cases, jumping on a money making band wagon, because the FD's who'd be genuine are those who'd give a submissive male, genuine attention in return for the money/gift they receive, most do, but it depends on what the sub wants, do they want that bitchy type, or not?
- not seeing female subs giving money to female Fin Dommes and considering it as a predatory practice based on horribly skewed and under-represented ratios of male slaves to female dominants, hence why there's not many male Fin Doms, if you consider the practice itself is so farcical, as there has to be a completely unsustainable ratio, in play for someone to give up money just for a chance to be acknowledged, as I've already shown, you don't seem to have a good grasp at all, nor done much digging into the topic, as you try, to sound.
I've known several online that were female (not my slaves), but I've also had a female slave into findom, even if only briefly. Yes, there's a vast majority of female dominants and male subs into this fetish. I don't really need to continue you on - your comment is ill-thought, ill-placed, ill-researched and arrogant as hell.
Do some more reading first.
Oh and by definition:
fetish : a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.
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