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MrRodgers -> True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 7:44:51 AM)

Is Trump a 'true' American ? Define what is just such an American and just how [he] one is as say opposed to others...a 'true' American.

Are we to believe then that say HRC and Gary Johnson are not true Americans ? IF so, why not ? Conversely, just what makes one less of a 'true American.'

OR...is that expression just more semantic vanity ?




WhoreMods -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 7:58:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Conversely, just what makes one less of a 'true American.'

Being female or non caucasian, obviously.
[:'(]




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 9:51:11 AM)

A "true American"? Why being a member of the first nations of course.
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Conversely, just what makes one less of a 'true American.'

Being of European or African descent, of course.




WhoreMods -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 9:53:31 AM)

Is there an echo in here?




PeonForHer -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 10:27:46 AM)

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Define what is just such an American and just how [he] one is as say opposed to others...a 'true' American.


I think I'd have more luck looking up my arse to find my elbow than finding an answer to this one. [;)]




WhoreMods -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 10:32:59 AM)

I think the Presidential pissing match thus far has established that a true American has really bad hair.
So apart from the Flump, that's Woody Allen and Stan Lee...




ifmaz -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 10:52:30 AM)

Real Americans fight for the rights of every man. Real Americans fight for their lives. When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside, you have to take a stand because it doesn't help to hide. If you hurt their friends, if you hurt their pride, they have to be a man and not let it slide. Real Americans don't feel too strong about right and wrong and don't take trouble for very long. They have something deep inside of them and know that courage is the thing that keeps us free.




WhoreMods -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 11:03:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Real Americans fight for the rights of every man. Real Americans fight for their lives. When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside, you have to take a stand because it doesn't help to hide. If you hurt their friends, if you hurt their pride, they have to be a man and not let it slide. Real Americans don't feel too strong about right and wrong and don't take trouble for very long. They have something deep inside of them and know that courage is the thing that keeps us free.


Are there any of those actually living in America?
Most of what you people seem to do is whining like schoolgirls, rather than anything proactive or stoic.




Lucylastic -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 11:07:18 AM)

oh heavens, jingoistic lyrics




WickedsDesire -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 11:23:26 AM)

The constitution giveth and the elected malarkey taketh away, well once they drove the Native Americans to the precipice of extinction

Many Americans embody king of the monkey people (from 16 candiates was it?) and the fact he is going to fix America with things and stuff and crazy glue.

Surprised he hasn’t pointed his figure and declared Hilary a feeble minded women drunk on her unbalanced hormones. – or did he use that, whence he was running, on smart ass interviewers, who tried to besmirch his monkey like intelligence And they used the commie line on sanders poor poor Bernie and I liked him. Hmm not sure the heretic line would work on HiIlary I think he would be better pointing a finger at the women scorned and calling her a witchee.
who the hell is zach Johnson or john jackson and wasn't that an episode of Futurama where Nixon romped home - that is who he reminds me off, just with less brains




Termyn8or -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 11:28:44 AM)

FR

Actually "True American" is simply a buzzword. Mexicans are Americans, Brazilians, Uruguayans, Argentines, all Americans. However...

White Man named it America. There were already people here, what did they call it ? The whole continent was given the name America after Amerigo Vespucci around the year 1500 or so. I have corresponded with a couple of American Natives, AKA Indians and in the end, we just don't know exactly what to call them. In Australia they call the Natives Aborigines, and actually I was never really sure about the etymology of that word, and of course word inventing MFs think they have poetic license.

Basically, American means one born on this continent. Nothing more, nothing less. How people take it is a whole different thing of course. Some take it to mean loyal to the US or its government. (notice I did not use the word "and") Actually, a legal immigrant who goes through the process in any country in this continent can call himself an American as well.

This "true" American bullshit is rubbish. What, you say the pledge of allegiance ? Salute the flag ? Revere the President ? Tell you what, I capitalise the word president because it is a title, not because I have any respect. We could have made alot better choices, if we had real choices.

Or it is apple pie, which I don't eat so I guess you'll have to deport me.

T^T




bounty44 -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 11:33:15 AM)

when people use the phrase "true American" they are hearkening to a particular historical sentiment and image of the people who settled in and created the united states.




Termyn8or -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 11:33:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

The constitution giveth and the elected malarkey taketh away, well once they drove the Native Americans to the precipice of extinction

Many Americans embody king of the monkey people (from 16 candiates was it?) and the fact he is going to fix America with things and stuff and crazy glue.

Surprised he hasn’t pointed his figure and declared Hilary a feeble minded women drunk on her unbalanced hormones. – or did he use that, whence he was running, on smart ass interviewers, who tried to besmirch his monkey like intelligence And they used the commie line on sanders poor poor Bernie and I liked him. Hmm not sure the heretic line would work on HiIlary I think he would be better pointing a finger at the women scorned and calling her a witchee.
who the hell is zach Johnson or john jackson and wasn't that an episode of Futurama where Nixon romped home - that is who he reminds me off, just with less brains



Hillary Clinton is too old to have any hormones. But she is still a dangerous sneaky bitch and should never be put in a position of power.

T^T




WhoreMods -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 12:24:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

The constitution giveth and the elected malarkey taketh away, well once they drove the Native Americans to the precipice of extinction

Many Americans embody king of the monkey people (from 16 candiates was it?) and the fact he is going to fix America with things and stuff and crazy glue.

Surprised he hasn’t pointed his figure and declared Hilary a feeble minded women drunk on her unbalanced hormones. – or did he use that, whence he was running, on smart ass interviewers, who tried to besmirch his monkey like intelligence And they used the commie line on sanders poor poor Bernie and I liked him. Hmm not sure the heretic line would work on HiIlary I think he would be better pointing a finger at the women scorned and calling her a witchee.
who the hell is zach Johnson or john jackson and wasn't that an episode of Futurama where Nixon romped home - that is who he reminds me off, just with less brains



Hillary Clinton is too old to have any hormones. But she is still a dangerous sneaky bitch and should never be put in a position of power.

T^T

You could say the same about Flump. He'd have better hair if he still had hormones.




MrRodgers -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 12:44:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

The constitution giveth and the elected malarkey taketh away, well once they drove the Native Americans to the precipice of extinction

Many Americans embody king of the monkey people (from 16 candiates was it?) and the fact he is going to fix America with things and stuff and crazy glue.

Surprised he hasn’t pointed his figure and declared Hilary a feeble minded women drunk on her unbalanced hormones. – or did he use that, whence he was running, on smart ass interviewers, who tried to besmirch his monkey like intelligence And they used the commie line on sanders poor poor Bernie and I liked him. Hmm not sure the heretic line would work on HiIlary I think he would be better pointing a finger at the women scorned and calling her a witchee.
who the hell is zach Johnson or john jackson and wasn't that an episode of Futurama where Nixon romped home - that is who he reminds me off, just with less brains


Gary Johnson is the Libertarian party candidate for pres. The constitution is a dead letter paper instrument quite malleable to the powers behind the throne and is thus...to their benefit. But being a 'true American' from a historical perspective would be either American Indians or their predecessors at least by race and blood.

As for politically I am thinking for many, that means European white, ready to jump on anything that doesn't comport with their policies and not those that would infringe on them, otherwise [those that aren't] staying in your own community, work, stay poor and don't bother the real 'true Americans' or leach off of us. If you can manage better despite that and 'our' policies, those of us 'true Americans'...then great. If not...then leave or die.

My point being that Trump is the poster-boy for old white power and being the 'true American' and his 'telling it like it is' is simply saying out loud without the profanity, the same thing or worse what 'true Americans' say at the dinner table or in private...to each other.

Just like the 'true Americans' that suggested to me years ago, that Obama should be dragged out of the white house and shot. (I guess lynching is too much work)




Lucylastic -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 1:01:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

FR

Actually "True American" is simply a buzzword. Mexicans are Americans, Brazilians, Uruguayans, Argentines, all Americans. However...

White Man named it America. There were already people here, what did they call it ? The whole continent was given the name America after Amerigo Vespucci around the year 1500 or so. I have corresponded with a couple of American Natives, AKA Indians and in the end, we just don't know exactly what to call them. In Australia they call the Natives Aborigines, and actually I was never really sure about the etymology of that word, and of course word inventing MFs think they have poetic license.

Basically, American means one born on this continent. Nothing more, nothing less. How people take it is a whole different thing of course. Some take it to mean loyal to the US or its government. (notice I did not use the word "and") Actually, a legal immigrant who goes through the process in any country in this continent can call himself an American as well.

This "true" American bullshit is rubbish. What, you say the pledge of allegiance ? Salute the flag ? Revere the President ? Tell you what, I capitalise the word president because it is a title, not because I have any respect. We could have made alot better choices, if we had real choices.

Or it is apple pie, which I don't eat so I guess you'll have to deport me.

T^T

you missed canada...




thompsonx -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 1:07:55 PM)


ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Real Americans fight for the rights of every man.

Who were the real amerikans who owned slaves?
Who were the real amerikans who murdered the native amerikans?




Real Americans fight for their lives. When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside, you have to take a stand because it doesn't help to hide.

Who are you hiding from?


If you hurt their friends, if you hurt their pride, they have to be a man and not let it slide.

Not let what slide?


Real Americans don't feel too strong about right and wrong

why are you proud of this?



and don't take trouble for very long. They have something deep inside of them and know that courage is the thing that keeps us free.

free from what ?




WickedsDesire -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 1:21:27 PM)

I know what they are they are lost people with no identity and building a wall to keep even the dirty Mexicans out...But I am not here to have an origin argument or migration argument and they will always push that day back later, never sooner. (Clovis hahahaha idiots -outre oh and you spanish people are not getting off either - 4 codex remain I think from all - hell i can mock just about any nation especially the swiss )...The UK is a little better, but not much...and I am all for building that wall again and shoving it further south and populating it with ravenous lions, peckish pterodactyl..and dick biting pythons that com e out of the loo ( you either read that story today or you did not and he lost a lot of blood)

But that is neither here, or over there......Actually "True American" is simply a buzzword. Mexicans are Americans, Brazilians, Uruguayans, Argentines, all Americans. However... I also concur but I never forget all of time.......( and yes she should not get in but it is down to two now is it not her or king on the monkeys...in his favour he says what he thinks.....that has been tailing off lately have any of you noticed this? His competition someone within with far more brains and deviousness - is his path to glory

MrRodgersKing ty I had no idea who he was or why it mattered but that episode of Futurama ( hands up if you know it) really did make me laugh and to an extent he does remind me of what I know of Nixon and exactly what an " American" not robot would vote for..i see them as robots he has defined them and all who disbelieve questions are branded utter heretics...or in simple terms he prays on peoples prejudices schadenfreude - that's how I see it and his followers. I believe many Americans to be racist for want of a better word or is ignorant a better word- like some of the english?, And he appeals to the lowest common denominator




ifmaz -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 1:23:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh heavens, jingoistic lyrics



Not a fan of Mr. Bollea in tights? For shame.




ifmaz -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/27/2016 1:28:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: ifmaz

Real Americans fight for the rights of every man. Real Americans fight for their lives. When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside, you have to take a stand because it doesn't help to hide. If you hurt their friends, if you hurt their pride, they have to be a man and not let it slide. Real Americans don't feel too strong about right and wrong and don't take trouble for very long. They have something deep inside of them and know that courage is the thing that keeps us free.


Are there any of those actually living in America?
Most of what you people seem to do is whining like schoolgirls, rather than anything proactive or stoic.


There's only one that I know of and he has fought Iranians, giants, and savages.




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