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MrRodgers -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 10:31:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

thats why you can buy testosterone creams, pills, medication, to ahem, increase, or decrease the level[8|]



"FDA issues warning on men's testosterone drugs


03/03/15 12:10 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Food and Drug Administration is warning about the overuse of testosterone-boosting drugs taken by millions of U.S. men, saying the popular treatments have never been proven safe or effective for treating common signs of aging like low libido and fatigue.
The agency says drug makers must clarify that their drugs are only approved to treat low testosterone levels caused by disease or injury, not general aging. Additionally, the FDA warned Tuesday that the drugs can increase the risk of heart attack and said drug makers must add that information to their warning labels.
The federal rebuke comes after years of industry marketing for new pills, patches, gels and injections that promise relief from low testosterone or "Low-T." The advertising blitz has pushed sales of testosterone drugs to over $2 billion."

So apparently there is no real fix for age-related "low-T," only a vigorous and virile marketing campaign.



Well it depends on whether one can believe the FDA and with [it] being in the pocket of monopoly, multi-billion$ pharma, you are 'advised' to stick to those 'doctor recommended' and FDA 'approved' methods for treatment of disease or injury. Buck up $ailor.

And in fact without million$ in upfront fee, (?) the FDA is not about to 'approve' any of 'your' drugs.




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 11:32:36 AM)

This will remain and increase unless and until voter turnout probably needs to double. Our condition will not likely change without a constitutional convention.


No, this will continue as long as people are kept ignorant of out history, our heritage and our constitution. More ignorant voters won't help anything, and at least in presidential elections doubling the number of voters can't happen unless more people vote than are eligible.

Make up your mind, is the answer more voters or rewritting the Constitution.




kdsub -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 11:58:39 AM)

lol....Will pilgrim you guys are just jealous that you don't have real men anymore.

Butch




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 12:22:58 PM)

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Make up your mind, is the answer more voters or rewritting the Constitution.

Both actually.




MrRodgers -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 1:38:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Make up your mind, is the answer more voters or rewritting the Constitution.

Both actually.

Yea




MrRodgers -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 1:40:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

This will remain and increase unless and until voter turnout probably needs to double. Our condition will not likely change without a constitutional convention.


No, this will continue as long as people are kept ignorant of out history, our heritage and our constitution. More ignorant voters won't help anything, and at least in presidential elections doubling the number of voters can't happen unless more people vote than are eligible.

Make up your mind, is the answer more voters or rewritting the Constitution.

Yea




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 3:53:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Make up your mind, is the answer more voters or rewritting the Constitution.

Both actually.

Neither actually. The problem is ignorant voters and the people who take advatage of them. More ignorant voters get us more of the same. A rewritting of the Constitution would be done by the people who take advantage of them.




Lucylastic -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 3:55:44 PM)

Education is Soooooo Important.




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 5:13:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Make up your mind, is the answer more voters or rewritting the Constitution.

Both actually.

Yea

You state that our problem is that we have voted in bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon although there were extenuating circumstances in both cases) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrap the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.




thompsonx -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 5:19:37 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 5:55:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Education is Soooooo Important.

Yes it is, and since the 60's they have kept people ignorant of our history and Constitution. I actually heard two people arguing about how well Bill Clinton was going to do in the 04 election since he was only barred from 3 consecutive terms of office. One had a MA degree and the other a BA degree. I had to explain that it was two terms for a persons life time. At the same place I was posting the Bill of Rights and even though I copied the amendments verbratum I was accused repeatedly by people with BA's of making them up, one even told me " the constitution can't say that" .
when I went to High School if we had been that ignorant we would have never graduated. Soon after I graduated education changed and that 40 year span Mr Rogers was talking about began. The key to fixing the country is to go back to teaching these things using original sources.




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 5:59:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD

You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.
I must have read something about history, it took me 1.5 years to persuade the head of my history department at my last college that I was not a grad student.




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 6:04:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD

You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

If you had read the exchage you would have seen that Mr Rogers said 40 years (of course since he is a left winger you would never think of correcting him), my comment was correcting him on this cycle.
This cycle has gone on longer that most and is being cultivated by the education system to bury people in ignorance.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 6:05:16 PM)

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True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.

Yes it has.




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 6:10:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.

Yes it has.


Not for a period as long as this.




thompsonx -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 6:55:29 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.

Didn't jefferson's secretary of the army turn out to be a spy?
Wasn't adams the younger involved in an embasy scandal involving financial improprieties when he was ambassador to russia?



I must have read something about history, it took me 1.5 years to persuade the head of my history department at my last college that I was not a grad student.


How long did it take for you to convince him you did not work in food service?




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 7:02:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.

Didn't jefferson's secretary of the army turn out to be a spy?
Wasn't adams the younger involved in an embasy scandal involving financial improprieties when he was ambassador to russia?



I must have read something about history, it took me 1.5 years to persuade the head of my history department at my last college that I was not a grad student.


How long did it take for you to convince him you did not work in food service?

She wasn't that stupid, she never even considered the posibility.
My only involvement in food service was a part time job during the first two years of college.




thompsonx -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 7:06:15 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.

Didn't jefferson's secretary of the army turn out to be a spy?
Wasn't adams the younger involved in an embasy scandal involving financial improprieties when he was ambassador to russia?



I must have read something about history, it took me 1.5 years to persuade the head of my history department at my last college that I was not a grad student.


How long did it take for you to convince him you did not work in food service?


She wasn't that stupid, she never even considered the posibility.

It appears that she, like I, felt you were more a custodial services kind of guy.





Cinnamongirl67 -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 7:09:49 PM)

People who don't even live here are trying to tell us?
Concern yourself with changing your own.
If you have one brain cell left, don't disrespectful our native Americans.
They are priceless.




BamaD -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (5/28/2016 7:11:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


You state that our problem is that we have votedin bad people for the last 40 years (50 actually got to include LBJ and Nixon) so we have to get even more people who will vote like that (giving us just as bad of people but larger vote totals) and scrape the constitution which did just fine till we put bad people in office.

Why do you think this shit started only 50 years ago. This has been going on since day one...Have you never read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

True there have been bad things before that, but not with the consistency of the last 50 years.

Didn't jefferson's secretary of the army turn out to be a spy?
Wasn't adams the younger involved in an embasy scandal involving financial improprieties when he was ambassador to russia?



I must have read something about history, it took me 1.5 years to persuade the head of my history department at my last college that I was not a grad student.


How long did it take for you to convince him you did not work in food service?


She wasn't that stupid, she never even considered the posibility.

It appears that she, like I, felt you were more a custodial services kind of guy.



Quite the contrary she considered me the cream of the crop.
You on the other hand could never have visited the place I worked in the service.
Now if you plan on contiuing this course we are done.




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