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Awareness -> RE: True American ? What is a 'true' American ? (6/1/2016 10:29:16 AM)
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Stop windbagging me, Awareness. Go and look up the definition of feminism - in any of the standard and respected dictionaries - The Oxford, Webster's, etc, etc. It's defined that way not because the writers of said dictionaries want to propagandise nor even assert their authority over the rest of us, but because that's how the word is standardly used. Appeal to authority. Another fallacy. Christ, you really can't argue your way out of a paper bag.
Feminism used to be called "women's liberation", because women were apparently subservient and under the yoke of their husbands. Not participants in an equitable social contract or anything. And if you're attempting to tell me that "women's liberation" gave a goddamn about men in any way, then I'll quite happily call you out for being a fucking liar.
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Were they to try to do anything else, they'd be picked up for it in no short order. Actually, no. And this is where you reveal more of your historical ignorance.
The definitions which find their way into dictionaries are largely a consequence of which ideology controls academia. As an example, a dictionary from the 19th century defines abortion as feticide, whereas a dictionary from today will describe it as "cessation of pregnancy".
The use of dictionaries and other authoritarian references as aspects of social manipulation should be readily understood by someone who actually understands political science - which is why I'm rejecting your attempt to engage in deception.
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You're going to have to give up on this, old boy, no matter how much that jars with your dangerously overinflated ego. Ad hominem. Pathetic.
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And ... no matter how much you want to wriggle around, without this definition, all you've got left is Nick's pisspoor 'Feminism is what feminists do' - which continues to beg the question, 'how do you define feminists, then?'
Given that you are unable to articulate one individual or group who are supposedly feminists, I think this is more your problem than mine.
You're attempting to define feminism as a nebulous, intangible force for good so you can avoid the inevitable defense of feminism's misandry. Again, history and common sense are against you, but it's fascinating to watch your inability to actually argue. Your dictionary definition is a crutch because you're incapable of progressing beyond that point. Without that deceptive axiom, your defense of feminism is annihilated.
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