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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:17:24 PM   
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Didn't you just tell me we weren't talking about that case?

The comments you quoted previously were referring to boy in the forest.
You do realise this thread has 2 cases.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:20:03 PM   
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Didn't you just tell me we weren't talking about that case?

The comments you quoted previously were referring to boy in the forest.
You do realise this thread has 2 cases.

Yes I know that there are two cases, and my response was cleqrly about the zoo.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:20:22 PM   
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Yeah, everyone thinks they're the best driver in the world too.

Not me, I suck at driving and hate it.
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The proof is in the output. I like to think I would have made a good Dad but never wanted the responsibility. I have been a very good influence on the kids of my friends though. But that is not 24/7.

I have never birth my own child yet, but there is a significant age difference between my baby brother and me. And I have taken care of him since a baby, doing everything a mother does, fed him milk, burp him, change his diapers. I took him everywhere with me where-ever I went. Even when I am out with boyfriends or girlfriends, I take him along. He was more of my baby than my mom's baby. My mom never never fed him milk or even changed his diaper before in her life. Needless to say there was never any breast feeding. Within 48 hours, she was discharged from the hospital, and never bother with him again.

So he was my baby. When I moved out of my parents home, he moved in with me, I basically took him along, when I got married, he carried on living with my x-husband and I. His basically my child.

And yes he has lived a great and fun life! When he was 8, I took him to concerts I usually attend, and he got carried and crowd surf. I taught him how to swim, how to ride his first bike, took him fishing which became his first love for his hobby, I taught him inline skating and got him interested in aggressive skating, took him for that too when he was as young as 8, as young kids pick up these things like magic, and with full protective gears, they are fine. I watched over him, I took him everywhere with me and included him in my life for everything.

I believe you can have fun in controlled environment. As long as I am watching over him, everything will be okay. And now his going to be married soon and will have his own family. I am very proud of him. And I know I am more like his mom than his own mom was to him. He will always come to me first.

So no, while I have not birth my own kid yet, but I did have a baby to raise from birth. The only thing I wasn't responsible for was bringing home dough to take care of his financials. My parents of course took care of that. But I think everything a house wife does with a baby, and raising a baby, I did it.



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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:21:58 PM   
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But don't feel too bad Greta. I am sure that something will pop up tomorrow that will put a smile on your face and a spring into your step. After all, tomorrow is another day.

I don't feel anything for the boy at all. Neither relief nor worried. But I think the parents got too lucky.



We don't know how the kid got loose. Do we even know how many kids she was trying to watch. I was once one off the parents on a field trip to the Zoo.
I was watching 6 3rs grade boys (they always gave me my son and the troublemakers) I looked towards one and the worst of the bunch was sticking his fingers through the mesh trying to touch the tiger. He looked at me like I was some kind of monster as he took a (controled) flight back to where he belonged.

Okay, we were referring to Japanese boy intentionally abandoned in a forest filled with wild bears by his parents, with the intention to scare him and punish him. And now he is found to be safe and fine despite being alone for 7 days in the forest. That's why I say the parents got way too lucky!

No you were also talking about the kid that got into the gorrilla enclosure, saying the mother was to busy getting a picture on her phone to watch her kid.

No try to follow properly. Wayward was sarcastically comforting me that unfortunately the boy in the forest did not get eaten by wild animals.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:28:40 PM   
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But don't feel too bad Greta. I am sure that something will pop up tomorrow that will put a smile on your face and a spring into your step. After all, tomorrow is another day.

I don't feel anything for the boy at all. Neither relief nor worried. But I think the parents got too lucky.



We don't know how the kid got loose. Do we even know how many kids she was trying to watch. I was once one off the parents on a field trip to the Zoo.
I was watching 6 3rs grade boys (they always gave me my son and the troublemakers) I looked towards one and the worst of the bunch was sticking his fingers through the mesh trying to touch the tiger. He looked at me like I was some kind of monster as he took a (controled) flight back to where he belonged.

Okay, we were referring to Japanese boy intentionally abandoned in a forest filled with wild bears by his parents, with the intention to scare him and punish him. And now he is found to be safe and fine despite being alone for 7 days in the forest. That's why I say the parents got way too lucky!

No you were also talking about the kid that got into the gorrilla enclosure, saying the mother was to busy getting a picture on her phone to watch her kid.

No try to follow properly. Wayward was sarcastically comforting me that unfortunately the boy in the forest did not get eaten by wild animals.


Try to read the posts.
There is no excuse for not understanding that I was blasting your assesment about the zoo incident.
In the US the family forest family would never see thier kid again and almost cirtainly do hard time.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:48:01 PM   
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Try to read the posts.
There is no excuse for not understanding that I was blasting your assesment about the zoo incident.
In the US the family forest family would never see thier kid again and almost cirtainly do hard time.


Except the quote that you quoted me saying was in response to Wayward to talking about the forest boy and me and Wayward were discussing forest boy.

So if you quote me talking about forest boy, you can't expect me to understand that you want to talk about gorilla boy.I would automatically assume that you mistakenly quote a quote that was meant for forest boy.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:57:45 PM   
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Try to read the posts.
There is no excuse for not understanding that I was blasting your assesment about the zoo incident.
In the US the family forest family would never see thier kid again and almost cirtainly do hard time.


Except the quote that you quoted me saying was in response to Wayward to talking about the forest boy and me and Wayward were discussing forest boy.

So if you quote me talking about forest boy, you can't expect me to understand that you want to talk about gorilla boy.I would automatically assume that you mistakenly quote a quote that was meant for forest boy.


You assume that I was talking about the forest when I recount a zoo related incident. You then tell me we aren't talking about the zoo incident? You knew exactly what I was talking about. Does it matter which post I was talking about? After all you are wrong about both of them. You should be angry about what happened to the forest boy and be hoping for him to get to a good help that can help him heal. And you should never condemn a woman because one of her kids took off while she was dealing with another one. How can any human being not feel for the forest boy or jump to conclusions about the mother in the zoo case? That is terrible.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 6:58:47 PM   
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All I can say is; glad you are not a mom, and, even though you are the quintessential poster child for compulsory sterilization, I wouldn't vote for that here in the states, but only because you are safely half a world away from us.

How's that for an "even if"?


I totally disagree, I'd be a great mom! And if I fuck up on my kid, I will take responsibility for my actions and not blame it on them, claiming it's impossible to manage and watch over them and be like you who is sooo uncreative that apparently keeping them safe involves putting them in a cage or prison.



Neither my parents nor my sisters or their husbands nor any of their aunts or uncles taking care of them at the moment ever "made excuses" or not take full responsibility in that endeavor.

What we didn't do (unlike you) is act like the one or two in charge at the time was/were 'irresponsible' if any mishap whatsoever happened to the child.

You have no clue, you are as much of a brat now as you were at ten, and will actually be even more as the same when you are seventy.

NO, you are not fit for parenthood at all. It doesn't escape notice that you haven't related even one experience in taking care of a child outside of your immediate family.

A lot of people take care of their brat brother or brat sister. That doesn't come naturally to everybody, but it does for at least half of us. BTW, have you noticed that you didn't deal with your brother and your cats in exactly the same way?







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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 7:25:28 PM   
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Yeah, everyone thinks they're the best driver in the world too.

Not me, I suck at driving and hate it.
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The proof is in the output. I like to think I would have made a good Dad but never wanted the responsibility. I have been a very good influence on the kids of my friends though. But that is not 24/7.

I have never birth my own child yet, but there is a significant age difference between my baby brother and me. And I have taken care of him since a baby, doing everything a mother does, fed him milk, burp him, change his diapers. I took him everywhere with me where-ever I went. Even when I am out with boyfriends or girlfriends, I take him along. He was more of my baby than my mom's baby. My mom never never fed him milk or even changed his diaper before in her life. Needless to say there was never any breast feeding. Within 48 hours, she was discharged from the hospital, and never bother with him again.

So he was my baby. When I moved out of my parents home, he moved in with me, I basically took him along, when I got married, he carried on living with my x-husband and I. His basically my child.

And yes he has lived a great and fun life! When he was 8, I took him to concerts I usually attend, and he got carried and crowd surf. I taught him how to swim, how to ride his first bike, took him fishing which became his first love for his hobby, I taught him inline skating and got him interested in aggressive skating, took him for that too when he was as young as 8, as young kids pick up these things like magic, and with full protective gears, they are fine. I watched over him, I took him everywhere with me and included him in my life for everything.

I believe you can have fun in controlled environment. As long as I am watching over him, everything will be okay. And now his going to be married soon and will have his own family. I am very proud of him. And I know I am more like his mom than his own mom was to him. He will always come to me first.

So no, while I have not birth my own kid yet, but I did have a baby to raise from birth. The only thing I wasn't responsible for was bringing home dough to take care of his financials. My parents of course took care of that. But I think everything a house wife does with a baby, and raising a baby, I did it.



Any and all of which could have gotten the brat killed at any time, especially as how you've related how eager Singaporean drivers are so eager to run down kids and cats.

But now you're telling is that it is the responsible thing to take a toddler in the car with teenage boyfriend, ...

I took my brats (whichever ones in my charge at the moment) out on the streets, to the park, to the bike or hiking path, swimming pool, whatever,

But never, never with a teenage driver. Much less in any (teenage) bf/gf situation. (Well, maybe once or twice there, but was hyper-alert all the time)

Walking a lot with teenage gf with younger brat (or her with mine) or niece or nephew was a part of the process. But not driving.



A brat then, a brat for life. That's you. Congrats on the faux child raising when all the heavy lifting was done in advance.





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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 7:46:49 PM   
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You assume that I was talking about the forest when I recount a zoo related incident.
No I assume you thought I was talking about the zoo incident when I was talking about forest boy.

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You then tell me we aren't talking about the zoo incident?

I involved you that the quote that you quoted was not referring to the zoo incident.

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You should be angry about what happened to the forest boy and be hoping for him to get to a good help that can help him heal.

Forest boy incident, getting him good help to heal WILL NOT help the gazillion Japanese parents to get a wake up call to not do the same things. It's not uncommon for Asian parents to do these things in many different variations as punishments. You see it as just saving one boy. This boy demise could save many more kids. I am against child abuse, but there isn't enough consequences to parents, and that's why it will perpetually keep happening. I live in a different world from you where beating a child black and blue is completely legal. And the child has no defense. To me, if this child got seriously hurt, it sends a very strong message to clamp down tougher and maybe start redrawing the line on what's considered child abuse in Asia.

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And you should never condemn a woman because one of her kids took off while she was dealing with another one. How can any human being not feel for the forest boy or jump to conclusions about the mother in the zoo case? That is terrible.

From the internet, there are plenty of mothers with multiple children that are condemning the zoo mom as well. So clearly there is some validity to thinking that the mom was not being responsible.


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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 7:51:52 PM   
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Any and all of which could have gotten the brat killed at any time, especially as how you've related how eager Singaporean drivers are so eager to run down kids and cats.

But now you're telling is that it is the responsible thing to take a toddler in the car with teenage boyfriend, ...

I took my brats (whichever ones in my charge at the moment) out on the streets, to the park, to the bike or hiking path, swimming pool, whatever,

But never, never with a teenage driver. Much less in any (teenage) bf/gf situation. (Well, maybe once or twice there, but was hyper-alert all the time)

Walking a lot with teenage gf with younger brat (or her with mine) or niece or nephew was a part of the process. But not driving.

A brat then, a brat for life. That's you. Congrats on the faux child raising when all the heavy lifting was done in advance.


Dude, we take taxis everywhere we go in Singapore. You know, cabs are everywhere. I don't live in the US where cars are necessity ya know.

You think my teenage boyfriend can afford a car when the license alone to own a car for 10 years cost 60k to 80k.


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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 7:53:59 PM   
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You assume that I was talking about the forest when I recount a zoo related incident.
No I assume you thought I was talking about the zoo incident when I was talking about forest boy.

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You then tell me we aren't talking about the zoo incident?

I involved you that the quote that you quoted was not referring to the zoo incident.

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You should be angry about what happened to the forest boy and be hoping for him to get to a good help that can help him heal.

Forest boy incident, getting him good help to heal WILL NOT help the gazillion Japanese parents to get a wake up call to not do the same things. It's not uncommon for Asian parents to do these things in many different variations as punishments. You see it as just saving one boy. This boy demise could save many more kids. I am against child abuse, but there isn't enough consequences to parents, and that's why it will perpetually keep happening.

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And you should never condemn a woman because one of her kids took off while she was dealing with another one. How can any human being not feel for the forest boy or jump to conclusions about the mother in the zoo case? That is terrible.

From the internet, there are plenty of mothers with multiple children that are condemning the zoo mom as well. So clearly there is some validity to thinking that the mom was not being responsible.


If you are correct then Japanese society is sick and needs to be changed.
In the U S these parents would be in jail even though the kid was found.
There may be parents critisizing her but they wrongly "know" nothing like this could happen to them.
If someone was negligent it was the zoo. Clearly they had not put up barriers that would keep this sort of thing from happening. I suspect that many, like you, assumed that she was there with one kid and simply not paying attention.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 7:57:32 PM   
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If you are correct then Japanese society is sick and needs to be changed.
In the U S these parents would be in jail even though the kid was found.

Would US parents really be jailed for this, abandoning the child in the forest as punishment? That I totally approve of! This will never happen in Asia. Those Japanese parents certainly will not even get into any trouble.

Even where I stay, I often see screaming toddler thrown out of the house, left outside alone, kicking and screaming outside begging to come back inside the house.

Fucking annoys, and then when I see it, I wish the kid got into harm or something, because I am sooo frustrated at stupid Asian parents doing shit like that with NO consequences.

For change to happen, something bad has to happen to rock the nation, then the government will start taking action or making laws to make shit like this illegal.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 8:03:33 PM   
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If you are correct then Japanese society is sick and needs to be changed.
In the U S these parents would be in jail even though the kid was found.

Would US parents really be jailed for this, abandoning the child in the forest as punishment? That I totally approve of! This will never happen in Asia. Those Japanese parents certainly will not even get into any trouble.

Even where I stay, I often see screaming toddler thrown out of the house, left outside alone, kicking and screaming outside begging to come back inside the house.

Fucking annoys, and then when I see it, I wish the kid got into harm or something, because I am sooo frustrated at stupid Asian parents doing shit like that with NO consequences.

For change to happen, something bad has to happen to rock the nation, then the government will start taking action or making laws to make shit like this illegal.

They would definatly lose the child and in almost anywhere here they would spend time in jail. And jail would be horrible for them because the other prisoners would make thier views of this clear on a regular basis.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 8:03:42 PM   
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Would US parents really be jailed for this, abandoning the child in the forest as punishment?

Maybe not jailed, but at least fined, and likely the child would be removed and placed into foster care, which may be better, or all too often it could be worse.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 8:16:11 PM   
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Would US parents really be jailed for this, abandoning the child in the forest as punishment?

Maybe not jailed, but at least fined, and likely the child would be removed and placed into foster care, which may be better, or all too often it could be worse.

It would depend on the juristiction.
And you are right that Foster Care needs to be watched carefully.

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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 8:25:15 PM   
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Any and all of which could have gotten the brat killed at any time, especially as how you've related how eager Singaporean drivers are so eager to run down kids and cats.

But now you're telling is that it is the responsible thing to take a toddler in the car with teenage boyfriend, ...

I took my brats (whichever ones in my charge at the moment) out on the streets, to the park, to the bike or hiking path, swimming pool, whatever,

But never, never with a teenage driver. Much less in any (teenage) bf/gf situation. (Well, maybe once or twice there, but was hyper-alert all the time)

Walking a lot with teenage gf with younger brat (or her with mine) or niece or nephew was a part of the process. But not driving.

A brat then, a brat for life. That's you. Congrats on the faux child raising when all the heavy lifting was done in advance.


Dude, we take taxis everywhere we go in Singapore. You know, cabs are everywhere. I don't live in the US where cars are necessity ya know.

You think my teenage boyfriend can afford a car when the license alone to own a car for 10 years cost 60k to 80k.




Congrats on cheap taxis to expose your little brother to whatever nasty crap you and your bf got into in his presence.

BTW, cars were $150-1,200, at most, for teenagers in the US at the time. Likely less than $600 for a lot of them.

But you do bring up a point.

You claim that Singapore is so low in income taxes. How do you think they make up for it?


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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 8:42:59 PM   
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Congrats on cheap taxis to expose your little brother to whatever nasty crap you and your bf got into in his presence.

I taught my brother everything he knows about sex too. And I am sure he is a good lover. I gave him a professional sex education talk, and taught him about protection, I take personal pride he never got any woman knocked up, because I educated him well. Verbal professional instruction of course, no physical demonstration, incase you and your dirty mind goes that direction.
My brother is good looking and get women easily. He gets women his age passing him their phone numbers just walking on the streets, when he was a teenager. And whenever I visited him in his University when he was in University, he always tell me his with his "study group", which consist of him being the only man with 10 females when I get there to say hi, and I'm always like, "study group huh?". His a total gentleman, treats women well, and just naturally attract women to him. I take alot of pride in instilling all that. You know, my girlfriend's 5 yr old son, already always pull my chair for me to sit down, these are small little things, that we believe in teaching boys from young. It will benefit them in the future, teaching them some old school gentleman habits, they will be natural charmers, and will get their ladies easier in the future. And anyway, Asian women still likes being treated like a woman. They don't care to be treated like a man.

And my boyfriends and I do kiss and hold hands and hug and snuggle infront of my brother, but that is no difference from if he had loving parents who hold hands and kisses each other. I believe it does my brother good to see me date men who are loving and respectful towards me and treat me well and accepts that I bring my brother along with me and also welcomes my little brother. It also make him a very respectful man towards women and he knows how to treat women properly in the future.

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But you do bring up a point.

You claim that Singapore is so low in income taxes. How do you think they make up for it?

Our country is only 24km from north to south, and 45km from east to west. You can easily travel on foot. South Africans tribal kids travel to school on foot 40km a day to school and back like it's normal.

We are so tiny, cars are a luxury, not a necessity. There is no where in Singapore you can't travel to on a train/bus or a taxi.
Low income tax is good, since car is not a necessity.
When I was a teenager, bus/train fares were 60cents standard for students regardless of distance per trip. Taxi rides were averaging about 50cents per Km, 10 cents every 200 metres. Very affordable for teens.
When I was in california as a teenager, I took a cab from orange county to hollywood and it cost me $60.
Huge difference.


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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 8:52:12 PM   
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Would US parents really be jailed for this, abandoning the child in the forest as punishment?

Maybe not jailed, but at least fined, and likely the child would be removed and placed into foster care, which may be better, or all too often it could be worse.


No good way around this one.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/fostercare/marr/

What troubles me is that fresh out of college 22 yr. olds ever get anywhere near close to having input whatsoever on these matters.

The woman who killed the child was much older than that, but there were a lot of younger 'decision makers' that got it to that point. And the murderer herself had only college and 'social worker' experience to that point.

But then, it hasn't been any concern of the university (in the last 20 years, at least) to consider competency or aptitude vs. credentials in the first place (certainly not among their own), being only in business in first place, essentially, for the latter purpose.











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RE: Should parents who do not keep an eye on their kid ... - 6/4/2016 9:59:27 PM   
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I taught my brother everything he knows about sex too.


Good enough. Proud of you for that. I know things don't work the same way across the world. I don't mean as regards physical demonstration in every case, just the explanation.

The reason you would never be a good parent is that you are too overtly hyper-judgemental. This is one area where the Orient has invaded the Occident in a bad way. It's like the tenets of Sharia law and Asian hyper-judgementalism has invaded western society all at once, as soon as the US invaded the middle east. Oh well.

Not the 'cultural values' we want, at all. At least not for the citizens, however much money the money makers are making out of it from one induced paranoia after another..

Of course, you grab the child when necessary, to keep out of harm's way, but some of us make effort to 'expand borders' (of the mind) at whatever opportunity presents itself at the time. Which necessarily involves expanding physical borders and learning how to get out in the world in the first place, when taking the brats out into the world. (I only say 'brats' all the time because it made the nephews and nieces laugh when I said it.)

How are you going to teach the brats how to get to the library or the nearest park or their friend's house when not mom or dad or aunt or uncle is available to the task when they feel like going there?

Someone teaches them how to get there safely in the first place, that's how.



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