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Lucylastic -> Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/8/2016 7:39:53 AM)

Please Be Careful ...This contains unpleasant shit, that shouldnt happen to ANYONE.
Ive snipped the first part, Please see the full statement
or the cliff notes via cnn
https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/739850267747844096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.sxmm2DGK9B#.dd7azA0KoP



Your Honor, if it is all right, for the majority of this statement I would like to address the defendant directly.
You don’t know me, but you’ve been inside me, and that’s why we’re here today.

On January 17th, 2015, it was a quiet Saturday night at home. My dad made some dinner and I sat at the table with my younger sister who was visiting for the weekend. I was working full time and it was approaching my bed time. I planned to stay at home by myself, watch some TV and read, while she went to a party with her friends. Then, I decided it was my only night with her, I had nothing better to do, so why not, there’s a dumb party ten minutes from my house, I would go, dance like a fool, and embarrass my younger sister.

On the way there, I joked that undergrad guys would have braces. My sister teased me for wearing a beige cardigan to a frat party like a librarian. I called myself “big mama”, because I knew I’d be the oldest one there. I made silly faces, let my guard down, and drank liquor too fast not factoring in that my tolerance had significantly lowered since college.

The next thing I remember I was in a gurney in a hallway. I had dried blood and bandages on the backs of my hands and elbow. I thought maybe I had fallen and was in an admin office on campus. I was very calm and wondering where my sister was.

A deputy explained I had been assaulted. I still remained calm, assured he was speaking to the wrong person. I knew no one at this party. When I was finally allowed to use the restroom, I pulled down the hospital pants they had given me, went to pull down my underwear, and felt nothing. I still remember the feeling of my hands touching my skin and grabbing nothing. I looked down and there was nothing. The thin piece of fabric, the only thing between my vagina and anything else, was missing and everything inside me was silenced. I still don’t have words for that feeling. In order to keep breathing, I thought maybe the policemen used scissors to cut them off for evidence.

“You don’t know me, but you’ve been inside me, and that’s why we’re here today.”

Then, I felt pine needles scratching the back of my neck and started pulling them out my hair. I thought maybe, the pine needles had fallen from a tree onto my head. My brain was talking my gut into not collapsing. Because my gut was saying, help me, help me.


I shuffled from room to room with a blanket wrapped around me, pine needles trailing behind me, I left a little pile in every room I sat in. I was asked to sign papers that said “Rape Victim” and I thought something has really happened. My clothes were confiscated and I stood naked while the nurses held a ruler to various abrasions on my body and photographed them.

The three of us worked to comb the pine needles out of my hair, six hands to fill one paper bag. To calm me down, they said it’s just the flora and fauna, flora and fauna. I had multiple swabs inserted into my vagina and anus, needles for shots, pills, had a Nikon pointed right into my spread legs. I had long, pointed beaks inside me and had my vagina smeared with cold, blue paint to check for abrasions.


After a few hours of this, they let me shower. I stood there examining my body beneath the stream of water and decided, I don’t want my body anymore. I was terrified of it, I didn’t know what had been in it, if it had been contaminated, who had touched it. I wanted to take off my body like a jacket and leave it at the hospital with everything else.

On that morning, all that I was told was that I had been found behind a dumpster, potentially penetrated by a stranger, and that I should get retested for HIV because results don’t always show up immediately. But for now, I should go home and get back to my normal life.


Imagine stepping back into the world with only that information. They gave me huge hugs and I walked out of the hospital into the parking lot wearing the new sweatshirt and sweatpants they provided me, as they had only allowed me to keep my necklace and shoes.

My sister picked me up, face wet from tears and contorted in anguish. Instinctively and immediately, I wanted to take away her pain. I smiled at her, I told her to look at me, I’m right here, I’m okay, everything’s okay, I’m right here. My hair is washed and clean, they gave me the strangest shampoo, calm down, and look at me. L

ook at these funny new sweatpants and sweatshirt, I look like a P.E. teacher, let’s go home, let’s eat something. She did not know that beneath my sweatsuit, I had scratches and bandages on my skin, my vagina was sore and had become a strange, dark color from all the prodding, my underwear was missing, and I felt too empty to continue to speak. That I was also afraid, that I was also devastated. That day we drove home and for hours in silence my younger sister held me.



Theres so much more, The poor boy got six months, he will be out in three.

There is so much female hatred in this forum lately
Im sick of the scum who want to use MRA and Feminist hate, to denigrate rape and what happens or doesnt happen to the victims, and the scum who rape, in EVERY FUCKING COUNTRY.
Im sorry I dont get bent out o f shape over every single rape happening in the world, but I simply wouldnt have the time to breathe let alone move.

People wanna stop trans people from using the same bathroom. just in case a woman or child might gets attacked , but ignore the thousands of women being attacked yearly. in your own country.
These safe places in universities and campuses, are mocked in every thread. You believe women are making it up?
why?







tweakabelle -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 1:19:45 AM)

It's sad to note the lack of response to this thread. It's not as though the facts of the case were in dispute. Or that the case hasn't attracted much attention.

Yet we have some people posting here making a big deal about rape. Posting repeatedly about rape. Yet they are silent on this rape.

What's different about this case is that the rapist here was a WASP boy, an athlete with Olympic ambitions, a clean cut young man who seemed to excel in other spheres. He wasn't a Muslim. He wasn't black. So it seems that those preoccupied with rapes elsewhere on these boards, but silent here are only concerned about rape if it suits their political (read hate) agenda.

This is particularly sad as the facts of this case are far more common and are closer to a 'typical' rape in the West than most people realise. It's a case they could analyse in order to deepen their understanding of rape in the West but it seems they're uninterested.




Greta75 -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 1:32:02 AM)

Pretty hard to take libs stances seriously on this, when they warmly support a religion that has holy text teaching a man to beat his wife for disobedience. This means to me that if the wife refuses sex, she can get beaten for refusing to have sex.
So if there is no response, it's like, yea, white rape is a bigger deal than Muslim rape. Clearly people don't agree.

I think all rape is bad, but I think when Lib only brings out white rape, and feel outrage about white rape, just proves that they are the ones who think white rape matters more than Muslim rape.

Nobody will defend a white man for raping a woman.

But too many liberals defend human beings who CHOSE to support a religion that allows wife rape in their religion.

To me, being pro-Islam, is being pro-rape.






thishereboi -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 3:37:57 AM)

This is fucked up on so many levels it's hard to know where to start. And the judge who apparently thought he was helping the little bastard by handing out a light sentence to protect the little bastards future has inadvertently made his face go viral to the point that even my dad, who doesn't go online, knows who he is. So here's hoping it follows him for the rest of his miserable little life.




Termyn8or -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 3:38:29 AM)

So let's let guys into girls bathrooms at compulsory education public schools !

Hey the politicians have enough of your money to buy their own kids out of it.

Your six year old daughter comes in "Hey Mommy, what is a blow job ?"

Yup, it is all going according to the plan.

T^T




thishereboi -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 3:43:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It's sad to note the lack of response to this thread. It's not as though the facts of the case were in dispute. Or that the case hasn't attracted much attention.

Yet we have some people posting here making a big deal about rape. Posting repeatedly about rape. Yet they are silent on this rape.

What's different about this case is that the rapist here was a WASP boy, an athlete with Olympic ambitions, a clean cut young man who seemed to excel in other spheres. He wasn't a Muslim. He wasn't black. So it seems that those preoccupied with rapes elsewhere on these boards, but silent here are only concerned about rape if it suits their political (read hate) agenda.

This is particularly sad as the facts of this case are far more common and are closer to a 'typical' rape in the West than most people realise. It's a case they could analyse in order to deepen their understanding of rape in the West but it seems they're uninterested.




Funny that you would bitch about a lack of participation in a thread you haven't bothered to comment on either. Now there could be 100 reasons why someone hasn't left a comment but you keep believing you know why people haven't been around. It seems to be SOP lately. And it was an excellent opportunity for you to crow.




Lucylastic -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 3:43:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

This is fucked up on so many levels it's hard to know where to start. And the judge who apparently thought he was helping the little bastard by handing out a light sentence to protect the little bastards future has inadvertently made his face go viral to the point that even my dad, who doesn't go online, knows who he is. So here's hoping it follows him for the rest of his miserable little life.

His face is all over facebook, I was reading earlier tonite that someone put up a picture of him calling him a rapist.
Facebook took it down.....there was quite an uproar and it has been put back.

http://gizmodo.com/facebook-removed-a-stanford-rapist-meme-and-users-are-p-1781108907

The little darling shit stain tho is a product of his fathers outlook.




Termyn8or -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 3:50:29 AM)

Where is this motherfucker ?

T^T




PeonForHer -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:01:14 AM)

I read it on Facebook. It's sad and horrifying, of course. If anything, those pictures of the perp, in which he looks 'wholesome' and 'clean-cut', only add to the nausea-effect.

"You don’t know me, but you’ve been inside me, and that’s why we’re here today.”

... Is a line that burns itself onto the brain, doesn't it?

The one bright note about this whole affair is that of the two Swedish lads, Carl-Fredrik Arndt and Peter Jonsson, who stopped him in the act, chased him down and held him till the cops arrived. They'd been cycling by at the time. In her statement, the rape survivor said "I sleep with two bicycles that I drew taped above my bed to remind myself there are heroes in this story. That we are looking out for one another”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stanford-rape-case-hero-swedish-students-who-stopped-brock-turners-attack-describe-what-they-saw-a7070226.html




Lucylastic -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:10:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Pretty hard to take libs stances seriously on this, when they warmly support a religion that has holy text teaching a man to beat his wife for disobedience. This means to me that if the wife refuses sex, she can get beaten for refusing to have sex.
So if there is no response, it's like, yea, white rape is a bigger deal than Muslim rape. Clearly people don't agree.

I think all rape is bad, but I think when Lib only brings out white rape, and feel outrage about white rape, just proves that they are the ones who think white rape matters more than Muslim rape.

Nobody will defend a white man for raping a woman.

But too many liberals defend human beings who CHOSE to support a religion that allows wife rape in their religion.

To me, being pro-Islam, is being pro-rape.




Oh dear Greta, if your thoughts about what libs say (and what libs do and what libs think) had any basis in the truth you would have a point. But as usual you dont.

There are hundreds of thousands of women and children(girls and boys) trafficked across the world, There are rapes every minutes across the fucking world.
But YOU want to focus on religion. In fact your first comment about this rape was a saudi comment.
Maybe the only focus should be on women who are muslims who are raped, or beaten and ignore whats going on in our own perfect corner of the world by our own men in our own "culture" and give lip service to women killed beaten raped so we can annihilate muslims. Cos then everything will be ok.

Get a fucking clue.
This has nothing to do with Lib vs con, left or right, it is plain old rape
You know marital rape has only recently been against the law in all 50 states in the US since 1993?

From wikipedia
For example, although marital rape has been criminalized throughout the United States, in 2007 twenty states still did not provide unrestricted criminalization (Bergen, 2016). This meant that “…rape within a marital relationship [was] still treated as a lesser crime than rape outside the relationship…” (Bergen, 2016). Another example of a legal exemption was in a 1988 Michigan state law that failed to criminalize marital rape if the victim was mentally incapacitated at the time of the assault (Bergen, 2016). As a result, a husband may be exempt from prosecution if his wife was unable to give consent – asleep, mentally or physically impaired – in which case consent is assumed (Bergen, 2016). This notion is not specific to the United States. In Canada, prosecutors and lawyers think that previous sexual history of a married couple is relevant in rape trials because if the wife has consented previously, then the man has every reason to presume her consent (Mandal, 2014). As these laws exemplify, marital rape is seen as somehow less reprehensible than rape outside of marriage (Bergen, 2016). Following this same understanding, British courts pass lower sentences to marital rape than to other cases of rape because it is believed that it causes less harm to the victim (Mandal, 2014).

How many rape victims have you spoken to , helped in an official capacity?
Until you have, fuck off with your ignorant assumptions about white/vs muslim victims "defense" by me
your look into motivation on my part, is crude, stupid and bloody ridiculous.





Lucylastic -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:11:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I read it on Facebook. It's sad and horrifying, of course. If anything, those pictures of the perp, in which he looks 'wholesome' and 'clean-cut', only add to the nausea-effect.

"You don’t know me, but you’ve been inside me, and that’s why we’re here today.”

... Is a line that burns itself onto the brain, doesn't it?

The one bright note about this whole affair is that of the two Swedish lads, Carl-Fredrik Arndt and Peter Jonsson, who stopped him in the act, chased him down and held him till the cops arrived. They'd been cycling by at the time. In her statement, the rape survivor said "I sleep with two bicycles that I drew taped above my bed to remind myself there are heroes in this story. That we are looking out for one another”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stanford-rape-case-hero-swedish-students-who-stopped-brock-turners-attack-describe-what-they-saw-a7070226.html

Bless their hearts. Thank god for the good guys.


From personal experience, what those two guys did, may help her through the next few years of her life.




Lucylastic -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:23:41 AM)

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PeonForHer -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:33:20 AM)

quote:

From personal experience, what those two guys did, may help her through the next few years of her life.


I was hoping for something like that, yes. I'm glad you said that.




Lucylastic -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:56:08 AM)

Im sure, even if she never sees them again that she will think of them often. She has the "fortune" not to remember the assault. But that wont stop the nightmares, or the trigger reactions, but that two guys helped stop the assault, held him until the cops arrived and spoke in court for her, is something she is unlikely to forget.




WhoreMods -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 4:56:56 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
What's different about this case is that the rapist here was a WASP boy, an athlete with Olympic ambitions, a clean cut young man who seemed to excel in other spheres. He wasn't a Muslim. He wasn't black. So it seems that those preoccupied with rapes elsewhere on these boards, but silent here are only concerned about rape if it suits their political (read hate) agenda.

Which is exactly what the whiners are accusing all the evil liberals of elsewhere, isn't it?




Nepthys61 -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 5:47:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75

Pretty hard to take libs stances seriously on this, when they warmly support a religion that has holy text teaching a man to beat his wife for disobedience. This means to me that if the wife refuses sex, she can get beaten for refusing to have sex.
So if there is no response, it's like, yea, white rape is a bigger deal than Muslim rape. Clearly people don't agree.

I think all rape is bad, but I think when Lib only brings out white rape, and feel outrage about white rape, just proves that they are the ones who think white rape matters more than Muslim rape.

Nobody will defend a white man for raping a woman.

But too many liberals defend human beings who CHOSE to support a religion that allows wife rape in their religion.

To me, being pro-Islam, is being pro-rape.




Really? You can't be serious with this kind of response.





Greta75 -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 5:50:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Get a fucking clue.
This has nothing to do with Lib vs con, left or right, it is plain old rape
You know marital rape has only recently been against the law in all 50 states in the US since 1993?

My response was to tweakbelle who claims people only give a shit if it's Muslim doing the raping but nobody gives a shit when a white man does the raping! And I just thought it was damn hypocritical coming from people who supports existence of Islam which is a religion that enables rape. While rape occurs in many other non-muslim people lives too, but there is no one religion that protects the right of a husband to batter his wife, more than the religion of peace, which indirectly promotes rape.

It doesn't matter when wife rape was outlawed. Wife rape is pretty difficult to prove, unless, yet again, as I said to any woman, if you want to be seen as rape, make sure you fight hard and make the man physically hurt you. It has to look like some serious struggle and physical assault. Otherwise, especially in a marital situation, unless you video-tape your entire encounter, how to prove it is rape and you said no? It is perfectly understandable why it is so hard to convict marital rape unless there were injuries.

This is totally different from a religion completely teaching you that it's okay to beat your wife for disobedience. At least the laws protect wives from being beaten by their husbands. Because that is the more solid evidence way to convict husband's of sexual assault.

If the husband blackmailed the wife into sex, and she did it all "willingly" due to blackmail, and there is zero injuries. There is no way to prove the husband has raped without video or audio evidence anyway!

But Islam protects husbands if they beat their wives! So even physical injuries, the woman can't claim rape or assault.






WhoreMods -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 5:54:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
And I just thought it was damn hypocritical coming from people who supports existence of Islam which is a religion that enables rape.

So you're fine with white Christian guys raping women, and it's an only an issue for you if it's a moslem who can't take no for an answer?




Greta75 -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 5:55:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
And I just thought it was damn hypocritical coming from people who supports existence of Islam which is a religion that enables rape.

So you're fine with white Christian guys raping women, and it's an only an issue for you if it's a moslem who can't take no for an answer?

Where in the Christian Bible does it specifically teach you that it is your Christian duty to rape your women?
In the Quran, it specifically orders you, it is your Muslim duty to beat your wife if she disobeys you.




WhoreMods -> RE: Victim Statement from Stanford Rape Victim (6/9/2016 5:58:16 AM)

Where in the Quran does it specifically teach you that it is your Islamic duty to rape women?




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