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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 12:34:02 PM   
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Yeah, Trump will go down in flames in the general election.

I am not so certain. I really hope so, but I am not willing to state it as an absolute.

Clinton is a poor candidate. Trump could win this.

Dubious that Flump is a better candidate than Clinton, myself.

. . . but he has a national organization behind him who will vote lock step for any candidate with an R.


Yep, but this year...not quite 100%. The dems will however, still have to get to the polls for HRC to win. I think the clincher just might be given Trump being her opponent, women of all political stripes now...want a 1st woman pres.

That is not a good reason to vote for Hils, however much its a milestone.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 12:34:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think she can possibly count on the hispanic vote as well, looking at the alternative.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 12:35:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		It could go either way, if both parties are dumb enough to go with these choices -- and apparently, they are.

If Sanders doesn't run as an independent, I will be voting for Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 12:39:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're not one of the Sanders supporters who's planning to vote for Flump over Clinton, then?

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 12:55:47 PM   
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https://twitter.com/cons_nation/status/739945142531035136

This pic...from their twitter page




Actually comes from Ash Vs the Evil Dead Article in the daily mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3387963/Samara-Weaving-sports-bloodied-face-bruised-eye-set-Ash-vs-Evil-Dead.html

talk about lies n bullshit.


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 12:55:53 PM   
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You're not one of the Sanders supporters who's planning to vote for Flump over Clinton, then?


I've seen this a lot from Sanders supporters.

I have to admit it confuses me. Are they saying Clinton is worse than Trump? Or are they just looking to watch the world burn?

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:10:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		The really weird thing about that is that Bernie's supposed to be to the left Hilary, but they'd rather vote for a crypto-fascist asshat than her if Sanders doesn't get the nomination?
I mean, seriously: WTF?


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:12:14 PM   
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Yeah, Trump will go down in flames in the general election.

I am not so certain. I really hope so, but I am not willing to state it as an absolute.

Clinton is a poor candidate. Trump could win this.

Dubious that Flump is a better candidate than Clinton, myself.

. . . but he has a national organization behind him who will vote lock step for any candidate with an R.


Yep, but this year...not quite 100%. The dems will however, still have to get to the polls for HRC to win. I think the clincher just might be given Trump being her opponent, women of all political stripes now...want a 1st woman pres.


So....when it comes to presidential qualifications it all boils down to testicles vs. ovaries?

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:27:25 PM   
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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:28:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like I say, it is unfortunate...the failure for most of the people to see what has happened to the office of POUS. It does not truly matter who is elected.

Trump is just a more useful idiot and is prophecy to a faster road to perdition...than HRC. So yes, we are always voting for the lesser of two evils...always, as long we have this two-party tyranny.

Maybe the difference is if Trump is elected, I am glad I am not draft age but then HRC is a war hawk so.....? If not me or family or you...it's buck up sailors and at least pay for more war.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:30:33 PM   
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Yeah, Trump will go down in flames in the general election.

I am not so certain. I really hope so, but I am not willing to state it as an absolute.

Clinton is a poor candidate. Trump could win this.

Dubious that Flump is a better candidate than Clinton, myself.

. . . but he has a national organization behind him who will vote lock step for any candidate with an R.


Yep, but this year...not quite 100%. The dems will however, still have to get to the polls for HRC to win. I think the clincher just might be given Trump being her opponent, women of all political stripes now...want a 1st woman pres.


So....when it comes to presidential qualifications it all boils down to testicles vs. ovaries?

Why not ? There's little other meaningful difference. The only 'qualification' for POUS, is playing ball with the power behind the throne. For example, HRC took a whole lotta heat over Benghazi. That was like her political right of passage. There was going to be 'shit happening' in Libya or, or, or...no matter fucking what. You want to be POUS ? Then take the heat bitch. You'll get over it.

Look the US govt. (CIA) was going to take down Qaddafi no matter what. So power abhors a vacuum. So the shit that went down was under her watch and it doesn't make a shit-pot full of difference what happens from that point on. Whoever is there takes the heat and goes home or runs for POUS and gets the grill.

Secs. of state all take the heat when anything goes wrong. Do they run for pres. ? NO !! That's the only reason this is supposed to be new and it isn't really new at all. All candidates must take the heat and even more so when in office.

I am sure Obama is sick and tired of being pres. by now and is just jabbing his way out these last few months. He should be talking supreme nominee every day now or maybe [they] shut his ass up.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:34:21 PM   
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None above me can verify themselves as who they say or claim a fekless errant lot of utter nonsense and dangerous malarkey



Can you, just out of interest?
You keep using this line that it's a valid criticism, on the internet, where nobody can prove that they are who they claim to be. Why should your word carry more weight than that of any other fantasist or sockpuppet?

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:37:42 PM   
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Yeah, Trump will go down in flames in the general election.

I am not so certain. I really hope so, but I am not willing to state it as an absolute.

Clinton is a poor candidate. Trump could win this.

Dubious that Flump is a better candidate than Clinton, myself.

. . . but he has a national organization behind him who will vote lock step for any candidate with an R.


Yep, but this year...not quite 100%. The dems will however, still have to get to the polls for HRC to win. I think the clincher just might be given Trump being her opponent, women of all political stripes now...want a 1st woman pres.


So....when it comes to presidential qualifications it all boils down to testicles vs. ovaries?

Only because these two candidates are running on "I'm a woman" and "I've got balls."

And because they convinced people to vote for them based on that.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:39:40 PM   
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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:44:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I've said elsewhere, if Sanders doesn't run, I'll vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

I don't want either Clinton or Trump to be president. Both would be disasters.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:53:22 PM   
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As I've said elsewhere, if Sanders doesn't run, I'll vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

I don't want either Clinton or Trump to be president. Both would be disasters.

I understand your motives and I voted for Harold Brown rather than R or D but we both see what good that did. Like I've said, I voted OUT my congressman for 30 years. Boy did I show 'em.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 1:57:16 PM   
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are of substance and value o n here
I dismiss the rest

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 2:21:10 PM   
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As I've said elsewhere, if Sanders doesn't run, I'll vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

I don't want either Clinton or Trump to be president. Both would be disasters.

I understand your motives and I voted for Harold Brown rather than R or D but we both see what good that did. Like I've said, I voted OUT my congressman for 30 years. Boy did I show 'em.

I'm not voting anyone out. I'm voting in either Sanders or Stein, and convincing people to join me.

If so many hate Trump/Clinton, don't vote for them. There are other choices.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 2:52:49 PM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-judge-teleprompter_us_57577c4ae4b01270c7736920


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-releases-lengthy-trump-u-curiel-statement
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    Due to what I believe are unfair and mistaken rulings in this case and the Judge’s reported associations with certain professional organizations, questions were raised regarding the Obama appointed Judge’s impartiality. It is a fair question. I hope it is not the case.

    [Italics mine]


IF the judge does support or belong to "certain professional organizations" that could make his impartiality rightly be questioned, Trump has every right to bring it up. Plus, IF Trump's comments were based on the "associations with certain professional organizations," and not simply because the judge is of Mexican heritage, then there just might not be any racism involved.

Two big if's there. I don't know what the truth is, but Trump is a horrible candidate outside of any racism that he may or may not have.


What seems to be getting lost in this "discussion" of the judge's action and Trump's reaction is:

The judge made a ruling to release certain documents including the marketing and training materials for Trump University, materials which had been sealed.

If Trump disagrees with that ruling, why doesn't he challenge the legality of the judge's decision?
Trump obviously disagrees with the decision, but by calling the judge biased and asking him to recuse himself, Trump is asking for a legal action he is not entitled to, unless Trump can prove a history of bias by this judge.
If Trump really thinks the ruling is wrong, he should be questioning the legality of the judge's decision.


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/8/2016 2:58:22 PM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-judge-teleprompter_us_57577c4ae4b01270c7736920


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-releases-lengthy-trump-u-curiel-statement
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    Due to what I believe are unfair and mistaken rulings in this case and the Judge’s reported associations with certain professional organizations, questions were raised regarding the Obama appointed Judge’s impartiality. It is a fair question. I hope it is not the case.

    [Italics mine]


IF the judge does support or belong to "certain professional organizations" that could make his impartiality rightly be questioned, Trump has every right to bring it up. Plus, IF Trump's comments were based on the "associations with certain professional organizations," and not simply because the judge is of Mexican heritage, then there just might not be any racism involved.

Two big if's there. I don't know what the truth is, but Trump is a horrible candidate outside of any racism that he may or may not have.


What seems to be getting lost in this "discussion" of the judge's action and Trump's reaction is:

The judge made a ruling to release certain documents including the marketing and training materials for Trump University, materials which had been sealed.

If Trump disagrees with that ruling, why doesn't he challenge the legality of the judge's decision?
Trump obviously disagrees with the decision, but by calling the judge biased and asking him to recuse himself, Trump is asking for a legal action he is not entitled to, unless Trump can prove a history of bias by this judge.
If Trump really thinks the ruling is wrong, he should be questioning the legality of the judge's decision.



Well yes, but that would be rational and effective approach rather than a histrionic tantrum, wouldn't it?

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