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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 1:14:29 AM   
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Mexican Judge is a member of La Raza which direct translation means THE Race! You can't get more Race Pride than that.
Race pride is not racism. Denigration and exclusion are racism. Saying a judge is biased because of his ethnic descent is racism pure and simple. You seem to be totally clueless about my country's long and unsparing history of racial exploitation and slander. Check out Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech: where no man is judged by the color of his skin.


Is that the only reason Trump is questioning the judge's ability to be impartial? Or, is it because of the associations Trump and his team believe the judge has? Even if the judge has none of the associations Trump and his team believe he has, their belief should allow them the opportunity to question impartiality. Whether the judge's association with an organization that has "La Raza" in it's name means he has any ties to THE La Raza, I highly doubt he'd have gotten as far as he has if it did.

I do believe Trump and his defense team have the right to call the judge's impartiality into question when questionable (by their interpretation) decisions are made. That being said, I highly doubt the judge isn't going to be impartial.

ETA: To be honest, this action might be more of an underhanded bullying attempt by Trump. If the judge rules against Trump, Trump might be able to shed most of the criticism by saying, "SEE? I told you the judge wasn't going to be impartial!" That might play into the judge's mind (I hope it doesn't), leading him to be less likely (even if it's just a little bit) to rule against Trump and risk more headlines about him.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 1:24:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the judge rules against Trump, he'll just have to justify solid evidence. It has to make sense. That's all! He can rule against Trump and look fair, as long as it's logical and has everything to back up his ruling.

I really want to know why did those people in the case give Trump University a good rating in the first place! Did they have a gun to their heads when they had to submit their feedback? Sheesh!

This is just like that New York Times piece where they claim they interviewed all these women who claim Trump's misogyny and then a few of them came out to defend Trump and told off NYT for quoting out of context.


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 1:42:21 AM   
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"...women of all political stripes now...want a 1st woman pres. ..."

I can just about guarantee they will regret it.

But go right ahead.

T^T

Hillary did sell her husband, that they will be getting Bill back as economical advisor and his vast amount of experience if she was President. Two in one!

Obama also seek Bill's political advice. So I guess, it won't be the end of the world. Just another 4 years of the same old thing.




There is a part of this you don't get and I did not until recently. The US and Mexico are like Siamese twins that got cut apart. Now look at history from that standpoint and see what it is.

Some people got this White guilt shit over it but that is useless. I am only interested in what works. You all blather over who will be President not realizing there are alot ore important and effective things you could focus upon.

I should be ashamed to admit it, but I do not know the name of the mayor of the town I live in. You know, that affects your life alot more than the President or a senator or congresscritter. In facct your city councilmen have even more effect on your life.

The next basketball game has as much effect on your life as the Presidential election. Even if the bitch starts a war, they will print enough money to make it pretty much transparent to the People.

Lies and bullshit, OK, when is the last time you heard them talking about the debt ceiling ? Raising it that is. You think they stopped spending money ? You think the deficit has gone down, really ? No, it is all cooking the books.

When I was in business with the olman, I was fully aware we had two sets of books. One for us and one for if we got caught. Later I found out that SOB had a third set of books. I mean come on, we lived pretty good but we lost money all the time ? I don't mind, but I mind that he didn't show me the books, I mean the third set.

There are five different unemployment figures. And they think you can eat an ipad. They are loading our guns and it is a habit they can't break. More and ore people are starting to know what happened, in 2008, and also in 1929. Just like Germany, eventually they get sick of it and support a new government that is going to get the wealth back from the bankers, Rothschilds n shit. AND IT WORKED.

It worked more recently in Iceland and Hungary. Greece didn't have the balls to do it because they got caught with their pants down, cooking the books when they wanted into the EU.

What they did was to go to a poker game claiming they had the money but lost and could not cover the bet. That is called welching. I do not know why it is called that, are the Welch known for not paying their debts ? Even if so, they are not Greek.

Know what, I work way above my pay scale and make shit money. They just play with money and even if the fuck up they got it hedged or whatever. Real work pays nothing. Companies want to pay ex-union bricklayers $12 an hour. Are you kidding me ?

Enough, or nobody will ever read it.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 1:50:34 AM   
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I should be ashamed to admit it, but I do not know the name of the mayor of the town I live in. You know, that affects your life alot more than the President or a senator or congresscritter. In facct your city councilmen have even more effect on your life.

I know who the MP incharge of my estate is, and where to find him if I got a problem! For me, I totally know who to go after, IF I have any complains or want to pressure any changes that will directly affect me. Fortunately over here, MPs actually even go door to door to listen to your feedback. It's just a whole different system. I actually do feel that our MP does work for us and take care of our concerns and give personal attention and pretty good customer service I gotta say, I always feel like our politicians are working for us. And they are very accessible to reach and talk to. And we kinda treat them like they are serving us, because we know our tax money pays them a handsome salary. Highest in the world, so we feel entitled that they serve us well.

And the thing is, every single Minister is an MP too of some district. So you can go hunt down that Minister of a specific area that you need to bring your point across to, as well. They hold weekly Meet the People Sessions, so just go meet them and talk to them.

But yea, when it comes to the US, I wouldn't know how meeting Mayors or Governors work. But end of the day, if you got an idea that could be good, in my own country, I know how to reach out to. I wouldn't know what to do in the US.



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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 3:39:10 AM   
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Then why doesnt the big twat do something legal about it, Why HASNT he made a legal complaint, WHY haven't his amazing lawyers put in arguments to get him recused from the case??


Looking at the injustice of the rape case. Another judge that needs to be changed due to biastism.
Why would I trust justice to be served in Trump's case? I have showed evidence that the judge and the lawyers prosecuting Trump University are friendlies with each other outside of the court room, both involved in La Raza. On top of that the law firm prosecuting Trump has made hundreds of thousands of donation to Hillary.
Going by what's actual law in the US, maybe that's not a strong enough case to kick out this judge! But it doesn't mean that it is RIGHT! And it doesn't mean there is no biastism happening. This just means, the law is not strong enough to ensure a fair case and a fair outcome. Exactly like the rape case situation!

no you havent proven anything, all you have done as usual is ignore what you have been shown and stomp on more bullshit with your own little brain.
IF the judge had done something wrong, the lawyers would have already started proceedings to getting rid of this judge. They havent.
His own Lawyer said the judge was doing his job.



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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 5:32:57 AM   
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His own Lawyer said the judge was doing his job.

Because his own lawyer is trying to be political correct to make sure his other clients know that, he may represent Trump but his views does not reflect Trump's view.

Trump just dares to say exactly what he is thinking, EVEN when it's not politically correct.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 5:39:03 AM   
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crying manbaby ignorance.



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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 5:44:59 AM   
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If the Democrats were fielding a NAZI, you would be all up in arms about it.


No. If the Democrats were fielding a socialist, or even a moderately left-wing capitalist who said "maybe we should do a tiny bit more for poor people" they'd be up in arms about it.

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Yeah, Trump will go down in flames in the general election.


I hope he does, but I seriously doubt it. This part of your post reminds me strongly of this:

"�This Will Be The End Of Trump�s Campaign,� Says Increasingly Nervous Man For Seventh Time This Year "

People have been predicting that it will be over for him as soon as he says crazy shit. Well crazy shit he said, and in fact that's all he has said. His entire campaign is wall-to-wall crazy shit and it has only made him more popular.

Democracy doesn't work while you have a gullible public and a corrupt corporate media.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 5:50:08 AM   
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If the judge rules against Trump, he'll just have to justify solid evidence. It has to make sense. That's all! He can rule against Trump and look fair, as long as it's logical and has everything to back up his ruling.

I really want to know why did those people in the case give Trump University a good rating in the first place! Did they have a gun to their heads when they had to submit their feedback? Sheesh!

This is just like that New York Times piece where they claim they interviewed all these women who claim Trump's misogyny and then a few of them came out to defend Trump and told off NYT for quoting out of context.



Looking at the details of the complaint, they didn't realise when they were giving the feedback that they'd paid through the nose for something that was utterly worthless.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 6:06:16 AM   
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Looking at the details of the complaint, they didn't realise when they were giving the feedback that they'd paid through the nose for something that was utterly worthless.

Seriously...? At which point does a full grown mature adult can realise the information they were fed was worthless?

I mean, I go to school, and I learn freaking Calculus, and honestly, I think it's worthless information too! And I knew it while I was learning it! And if I was given a feedback form in the middle of school term, I'd have wrote alot of complains about it!


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 8:11:36 AM   
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Yes but all the news media is saying that calling a judge a Mexican is racist, because his not a Mexican but an American. WTF? All the libs and news media has officially turn "Mexican" into a racial slur! He IS a Mexican!

I am Italian-American. There is nothing Italian about me except nostalgia for my parents and their culture. To say I am Italian is hilarious.

You may be Chinese but you were not born in America, so what you offer is a personal hypothetical. Talk to Asian Americans born here and educated here and see how they express their self identity. America does one thing good: by the third generation immigrant progeny are pretty much fully assimilated.

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I believe he has not charge Trump for contempt of court yet, because he is proudly Mexican and everyone should STOP telling the judge to be ashame of his Mexican roots.
AFAIK, a judge cannot charge contempt of court for comments made out of court unless he has placed a "gag order" on the case. such is the extent of our precious freedom of speech.

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I wouldn't put a black judge to judge KKK crimes, would you? Do you think that would be fair?
Like I wouldn't put a Jew to judge Nazis Crimes.

Because there is an emotional element and I don't think the judge can be objective. They are judging someone who has done something negative to their own people.


The judge in the Trump University case (University bringing unbounded laughter, ridicule, and sarcasm) can recuse himself. If held culpable Trump can appeal to a higher court but he will have to show cause in his appeal. Claiming a prejudicial Mexican American judge because Trump has talked about building a wall will hardly meet the test imo. Aside from the ludicrous nature of the connection there are already walls or barriers along the border in various places.

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I mean it's totally questionable to me, all the witnesses that are complaining against Trump University, Trump has written statements and even video statements of them, praising Trump University. WTF? These people? IF they were soooo aggrieve, why they do that?
I believe they were two different sets of people.


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 8:18:45 AM   
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Seriously...? At which point does a full grown mature adult can realise the information they were fed was worthless?

In this case, when they tried to apply it outside of the the "university" and found that it was totally useless. Hence the legal case against Flump.

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 4:36:08 PM   
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Yes, the Republican Party, and all its people, working 24/7 to 'explain' how Mr. Trump's actions (or lack of them) and his words are not evil. They are not racist. They are not sexist. They are not anti-American. Nor are they tyrannical.

Read It

Republicans and Tea Party people whom once blasted Mr. Trump, now not only endorse him, but try to run interference to hide the shit everyone knows is taking place (thanks to that 'liberal' media....). They try and try to spin the language and words of what Mr. Trump stated; the only people apparently accepting the bullshit are conservatives and libertarians in the nation.

Gun nuts on here have told me time and again: they would defend the nation from tyranny with their guns. Well, Mr. Trump is the tyrant.....

...What the fuck are you waiting for? A fucking invitation to get a fucking clue?

The only good quality Mr. Trump has for America is serving as an example of what....NOT....to hire for the Office of the President. Not now. Not in the next ten generations from now!

If the Democrats were fielding a NAZI, you would be all up in arms about it. Yet, since it is on the Republican ticket, your are compliant, obedient, and submissive. You'll do what the party tells you to do: vote Trump. Because they'll show on their media mouth pieces (i.e. FOX 'news') that Hillary Clinton will destroy the nation.

Time to show the American people that your not a fool, an idiot, or a moron. Because I do not see many conservatives protesting Trump becoming the nominee. If the primaries in each state are any indication....

Yeah, Trump will go down in flames in the general election. The liberals and Moderates will have to do what conservatives are to spineless and cowardly to do: keep Trump from the White House. When that happens, gun nuts, don't bother telling me....ever....that your guns are to protect this nation from tyranny. Cus, it will be total bullshit (like the rest of your silly arguments). For the rest of conservatives and libertarians? Wear a brown paper bag over your head for the next four years. Make sure to write the word 'idiot' just above the cut out for the eyes in the bag.




Joether....you're going to get (and with nearly 100 responses....I'm guessing you got) a lot of "WHAT THE FUCK were you THINKING?????" responses....but for all you that responded in kind....allow me to tell you....

Trump ain't Hitler.

He's (may be) an asshole.

He's nooooooot Hitler.

He didn't spend decades in a shit hole apartment mentally defecating as to why the Jews fucked him over, no matter his narcissistic sickness.

Instead...he (Trump) built businesses...using women to make him his greatest wealth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

We can debate for decades what his assets are worth but who fucking cares?

As in MY office....the women that work for him get paid MORE.....not less.

Why?

Pretty simple shit....men stand around telling everyone how big their dick is....women produce the goods and...if you look at the docs he's produced as to support staff....his secretaries get paid more than most and....the women in exec positions get paid equal to men....or...in most cases, more.

Why do you think this might be?

He's in real estate.

Who buys real estate?

Except for commercial (almost all my commercial dealings are with men) 95% of residential sales occur because a woman wanted the place.

And men? They're just thrilled that some chic wants to stay with them. "You like this honey? Ok...let's do it".

Buying real estate is one way to cause that to occur.

So....who sells most of his real estate (most of which is residential)?

Chics. Women. Females.

And...as to property managers (I have a smidge of commercial real estate so...I have sooooome {limited} knowledge of this)...who do you envision most owners (of businesses) would rather deal with? A man...or a woman?

(I'll leave you to guess).

Who smells better? Who would you rather across your desk in a negotiation?

And....for the record...the Titans of industry....where do you think they'd rather be......negotiating a lease or....on their boat?

(Are ya STARTING to see a pattern here????).

Men....in power PREFER to deal with women. They PRODUCE!

And....in an odd coinkidink....take a wild shot at who WOMEN (in power.....or not) would rather deal with?

WOMEN!!!!!

(If you guessed "women"....you just won 27 points).

So.....

Trump's "women" are (in fact...on average).....paid more. (And yes...it's public knowledge).

Look at all the women (from his shows AND.....helloooooooooooooooooooooo....here it comes....FROM HIS EMPLOYMENT STATS) that have been interviewed....about the guy (some who haven't worked for him for 10 years)....say about the guy:

THEY LIKE THE GUY!!!!!

He pays them well.

Does he pat them on the butt?

Compliment them on their dress (more so than a man)?

I bet he does.

On Monday....men wear a black suit with a red tie. Tuesday....a blue tie.

Women....every day is a brand new day and every day they show up....they are looking....just fine.

(And....by the way...if you DON'T complement wimmens on their dress well....ehhhh....so....fucking get over it....and if you don't....you're an ASSHOLE!!!!....oh....I think I'm getting it now....).

In the end....he's NOT HITLER and he does NOT treat women unfairly....to the contrary....I submit the men in his employ have a bigger lawsuit!

Those of you that hate this guy because he's "a misogynist"....get the fuck over it!

Those of you that compare him to Hitler....READ A GAWDAMN BIT OF HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And those of you that just want to hate the guy.....go for it.

There's no basis for it...but enjoy yourself.

As to who you should vote for.....and why?

You should vote your conscience.

(Every time).

And...for the record...the book{s) he wrote.....weren't "Mein Kampf"...they were..."how to make better deals"...and how....he....uhmmm....did.

Comparing the guy to Hitler, presuming he's a misogynist are soooooo unbelievably contrary to the facts....it's laughable.

Is he a dick?

Probably.

Does he pay his staff equally? No...he pays women better.

(As do I...because they produce better).

Is he an arrogant son of a bitch?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

Yeah....so....deal with facts people.

And....vote your conscience.





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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 5:45:03 PM   
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I am Italian-American. There is nothing Italian about me except nostalgia for my parents and their culture. To say I am Italian is hilarious.


Jesus, vincent, you're creeping me out!! I can't see your pic real clearly, but you remind me of my uncle; my Uncle Vince. And now, you let it out that you're of Italian heritage? FFS!!! My Dad and his siblings are 2nd generation Italian-Americans!

LOL!!


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 5:53:40 PM   
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Greta!
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Mexican Judge is a member of La Raza which direct translation means THE Race! You can't get more Race Pride than that.
Race pride is not racism. Denigration and exclusion are racism. Saying a judge is biased because of his ethnic descent is racism pure and simple. You seem to be totally clueless about my country's long and unsparing history of racial exploitation and slander. Check out Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech: where no man is judged by the color of his skin.


Is that the only reason Trump is questioning the judge's ability to be impartial? Or, is it because of the associations Trump and his team believe the judge has? Even if the judge has none of the associations Trump and his team believe he has, their belief should allow them the opportunity to question impartiality. Whether the judge's association with an organization that has "La Raza" in it's name means he has any ties to THE La Raza, I highly doubt he'd have gotten as far as he has if it did.

I do believe Trump and his defense team have the right to call the judge's impartiality into question when questionable (by their interpretation) decisions are made. That being said, I highly doubt the judge isn't going to be impartial.

ETA: To be honest, this action might be more of an underhanded bullying attempt by Trump. If the judge rules against Trump, Trump might be able to shed most of the criticism by saying, "SEE? I told you the judge wasn't going to be impartial!" That might play into the judge's mind (I hope it doesn't), leading him to be less likely (even if it's just a little bit) to rule against Trump and risk more headlines about him.



I think Trump, on more than one occasion....is a dick but....equally....I think....some things are as they appear.

(I think in this case....Trump has salted the deck....and he fucked himself...he does have an amazing penchant for sticking his foot in his mouth. Sadly).

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 6:17:50 PM   
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I am Italian-American. There is nothing Italian about me except nostalgia for my parents and their culture. To say I am Italian is hilarious.

Why are you so ashamed of your Italian heritage?

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You may be Chinese but you were not born in America, so what you offer is a personal hypothetical. Talk to Asian Americans born here and educated here and see how they express their self identity.

There are many Chinese Americans working in Singapore and when I visit US, the Chinese are always race proud. Chinese First. American Second! Infact, I got attitude in the US when I visited there from the Chinese, when I couldn't speak Cantonese. As I am a Mandarin Speaker, whereas most US Chinese speak Cantonese. They are so proud of their heritage, they want to maintain their language.

I just don't understand why people are so ashamed of their roots! There is nothing wrong with being Italian. It's a culture that makes the best food and best wine. I can't imagine not embracing my roots and denying my own roots.

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America does one thing good: by the third generation immigrant progeny are pretty much fully assimilated.

I think by hiding away your roots, and pretending it doesn't exists, is crazy! In our multi-racial and multi-cultural society. We don't push this bullshit that we all identify as Singaporean first, I mean, you already know whether someone is Singaporean or not by the accent and if they speak Singlish, Singaporeans can spot each other easily. I will always be Chinese first, the other person will be Indian first, or Malay first, or Caucasian First. Whatever. It doesn't cause any problems, because once you recognise that all races are equal, it's okay to be proud of your race and identify yourself with it with all the uniqueness that comes with the race and culture.

I don't understand the whole defensive mindset that, "I'm American, not Mexican! I can't imagine a Chinese American saying, "I'm American, not a Chinese!"

I feel like the whole black slavery culture just cause alot race shaming in the US. Where it's not okay to embrace your race. To me, that's terrible. I don't think it's the right direction. Like over here, every race unique cultural practices, as long as it does not involve killing or hurting people, are celebrated by all races together.

It feels like because black people are made to be ashame of their race for so long, being treated as second class citizen, now everybody should be made to be ashame of their race too. And everyone identify as Americans, and that's it. Ditch the race thingy.

If this was in my country, we would celebrate black culture more. Have a special day for them. We have special days for every race. We would do the reverse.




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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 6:31:27 PM   
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I am Italian-American. There is nothing Italian about me except nostalgia for my parents and their culture. To say I am Italian is hilarious.

Why are you so ashamed of your Italian heritage?

Funny, I haven't seen where he has acted as if he was ashamed about anything. He simply explained that he is American born and bred, and identifies culturally as American, not American and Italian.

Identifying with the culture you grew up in is not the same as shame in neither ancestry nor heritage.



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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 6:34:37 PM   
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I should be ashamed to admit it, but I do not know the name of the mayor of the town I live in. You know, that affects your life alot more than the President or a senator or congresscritter. In facct your city councilmen have even more effect on your life.

I know who the MP incharge of my estate is, and where to find him if I got a problem! For me, I totally know who to go after, IF I have any complains or want to pressure any changes that will directly affect me. Fortunately over here, MPs actually even go door to door to listen to your feedback. It's just a whole different system. I actually do feel that our MP does work for us and take care of our concerns and give personal attention and pretty good customer service I gotta say, I always feel like our politicians are working for us. And they are very accessible to reach and talk to. And we kinda treat them like they are serving us, because we know our tax money pays them a handsome salary. Highest in the world, so we feel entitled that they serve us well.

And the thing is, every single Minister is an MP too of some district. So you can go hunt down that Minister of a specific area that you need to bring your point across to, as well. They hold weekly Meet the People Sessions, so just go meet them and talk to them.

But yea, when it comes to the US, I wouldn't know how meeting Mayors or Governors work. But end of the day, if you got an idea that could be good, in my own country, I know how to reach out to. I wouldn't know what to do in the US.




You mean to tell me you can get "audience" with something like a city councilman ? Here, you have to tell the secretary "I got a thousand dollars" or you get nowhere.

But you still ain't got Chavez's Venezuela beat. He used to go right out in the street and talk with the people, hear their gripes and grievances. The US put alot of millions of dollars into a campaign financing his rival in an election and Chavez put in pretty much nothing and won, proving that some things are not for sale sometimes. Those people liked Chavez and supported him, and when the US took him hostage they went and FOUGHT to get him back, and back into his big chair, where they had elected him. However, now that he is dead it is falling apart. Foreign influence and exploitation, what he, and Mossadeq, and Iran, and Iceland do. To NOT let other countries come and take our shit. The US, UK and Israeli governments do not like this shit where people in these governments think the natural resources migh, at least in part, belong to the People.

They do hate our freedom and democracy, because our brand of it is tyranny. Take your oil, phosphorous, cadmium, yellowcake, diamonds, gold. Any country has anything these MF can sell they are taking it.

Soon, the US and France are going to have a bit of a shortage of gold. they will be going into Mali to replenish it. You will be told of human rights violations or something. But they are going to steal a shitload of gold because both the US and France reneged on their promise to hold it. The US says they "leased" it out. I don't know what the French say, it is all Greek to me. Actually it is all doublespeak and it all means "We took it, fuck you get out, we have bigger guns". But to look good we will go steal you some gold to make up for it, OK ?

That's how it works these days.

T^T


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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 6:35:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
I am Italian-American. There is nothing Italian about me except nostalgia for my parents and their culture. To say I am Italian is hilarious.

Why are you so ashamed of your Italian heritage?


He's not ashamed of his heritage. He just has no connection to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVtdvYnfJp0

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RE: The Lies and Bullshit to Hide Tyranny - 6/9/2016 6:36:34 PM   
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Identifying with the culture you grew up in is not the same as shame in neither ancestry nor heritage.

I think it is being ashamed of your roots and denying your roots. To say that because I was not born in Italy, I don't identify as an Italian. Even though my parents are Italian, my grandparents are Italian.

I just don't understand the whole denial.

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