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CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 7:54:37 PM   
Real0ne


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Status: offline 		So allegedly the shooters father is with the cia, he was a regular customer at the Pulse and had a gay profile, witnesses talked about 4 snipers, were wearing bomb vests. and it was on CBS no less. Lone gunman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apG2vL9_eOE#t=164




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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:03:19 PM   
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But I looked on ABC news and saw no news about additional shooters that she claims ABC reports. And she didn't link or show the ABC news she was talking about in her video too.

That's not official CBS news though.

Okay, found it:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/man-describes-playing-dead-hiding-orlando-shooter-39816943

WOW! Why isn't this bigger news? Because the man says that the killer called someone to tell them to STOP BOMBING ISIS? And all the liberal Media is trying to deny this is ISIS Related. Like they are soooo determined to show this as not a Muslim Terrorist attack that they are hiding such important information about multiple accomplice, with suicide vests as well?

Here's more info about how there were more than one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9L6Cwaf01k


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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:05:39 PM   
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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:32:52 PM   
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Wow!
This guy makes sense!
He said, one magazine of that gun is only 20 bullets. He shot an average maybe 3 bullets per person. He shot 100 people. And that would need at least, 300 bullets, which means, more than 15 magazines his carrying. And he said those magazine are heavy. And he says he takes time to reload each magazine! He said his military train and those magazines are fucking heavy! For one guy to drag it around!

And he show the article that, 3 people at the entrance who were off duty police had guns, and shot at him when he walked in.

I mean, I was still incredulous that one person in a room for 300 people, and no civilians attempt to knock him out and take him down when his reloading.

Like how he did carry so much magazines? Reload and Kill. He must have had help! He claims that it takes time to reload these things, it's not easy to reload. And it's heavy! And you're in a dark club. Easy access to replacement magazines?



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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:34:46 PM   
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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:48:52 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsGrD2g53-U
Wow!
This guy makes sense!
He said, one magazine of that gun is only 20 bullets. He shot an average maybe 3 bullets per person. He shot 100 people. And that would need at least, 300 bullets, which means, more than 15 magazines his carrying. And he said those magazine are heavy. And he says he takes time to reload each magazine! He said his military train and those magazines are fucking heavy! For one guy to drag it around!


A Magpul magazine for the AR15 holds 30 rounds, not 20. A person bent on causing as much damage as possible would have multiple magazines, not a single magazine they'd have to stop and reload.

In another thread you were convinced this was the work of a lone wolf and even chided me for not understanding how lone wolf operations work but after watching some "Sandy Hook false flag/Jews did 9/11" guy on YouTube you've changed your mind?

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And he show the article that, 3 people at the entrance who were off duty police had guns, and shot at him when he walked in.

I mean, I was still incredulous that one person in a room for 300 people, and no civilians attempt to knock him out and take him down when his reloading.


Common sense would be to run away from the person who wants to kill you and is actively shooting others.

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Like how he did carry so much magazines? Reload and Kill. He must have had help!




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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:52:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bloody hell, I am looking at timeline now. 2am, this shit happens! They claim 100 polices were gathered outside of the scene like in a very short time within near the 2am spot. BUT none of the officers could do anything UNTIL their armoured vehicles arrived, which arrives 3 HOURS LATER!

Those police stood OUTSIDE for 3 fucking hours, just standing outside! While people inside were being slaughtered!

WTF? It's just a lone gun man. His on a mass killing spree. Shouldn't all the hundred officers go in and get the guy already!

This is the worst Police operation EVER!

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:54:40 PM   
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In another thread you were convinced this was the work of a lone wolf and even chided me for not understanding how lone wolf operations work but after watching some "Sandy Hook false flag/Jews did 9/11" guy on YouTube you've changed your mind?

Dude, seriously although you claim I was condescending, but UNTIL now, you still don't understand what lone wolves means! It means starting their own operation on their own, without co-ordinating or communciating with ISIS about their plans. BUT it doesn't mean that part of their plan, they can't recruit their own mini team. Like for example california, his wife was accomplice. In this case, he seemingly spoke to some woman with a bomb vest, that COULD HAVE been his wife for all you know!


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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:54:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		At a bar/restaurant in Ohio a guy walked and killed his Wife and daughter. He has a single shot shotgun. Had ONE PERSON been packing and know how to use it he/she could have saved a young girl's life. It only takes one bullet placed properly to do justice.

And, after I (Cracker Barrel, that was the name of the place) got more details, the fucking pussy police would not enter the place, due to rules supposedly. Apparently they are supposed to sit it out and let people shoot as many as they can and then arrest them on the way out the door.

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT US TO DO ? Give up our guns and let the police let us be killed by the fucking maniacs who were mostly created by the government or welfare Mothers or whatever ?

And people will not stand up to guns because they are deathly afraid of them. I know people I would never pull a gun on unless I was going to use it in millseconds. That tough. Not to be fucked with even if you are packing. But if there were any there they simply could not get the drop on the thug(s).

And how come it takes days for this information to get out that there may have been more than one shooter ? And how come people blindly believe someone can shoot 49 people with a 20 round magazine ? This kind of shit is why some people question Columbine.

My theory is that the government and media withold enough information and try to get you to accept sketchy details so they can lie to you later and you will believe it.

Anybody got another theory ?

As usual, there are some things that do not make sense.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 8:56:44 PM   
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A Magpul magazine for the AR15 holds 30 rounds, not 20. A person bent on causing as much damage as possible would have multiple magazines, not a single magazine they'd have to stop and reload.

This video just shows how complicated and difficult it is to reload! And even with 30 rounds per magazine. That's still 10 magazines! It has to be more than 300 bullets too, because after he walked out of the place, he also had bullets left to shoot out with the police! Some reported he had as much as 700 bullets or something. That's alot of magazines!

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:22:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just so you now, they are called rounds. The bullet is the part that comes out the barrell, the casing is what comes out the breach or whatever, it varies, the cylinder in a revolver for example. The powder is what exploded so it went into the air.

By definition, bullets are only that little lead thing at the end.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:26:15 PM   
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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:27:56 PM   
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A Magpul magazine for the AR15 holds 30 rounds, not 20. A person bent on causing as much damage as possible would have multiple magazines, not a single magazine they'd have to stop and reload.

This video just shows how complicated and difficult it is to reload! And even with 30 rounds per magazine. That's still 10 magazines! It has to be more than 300 bullets too, because after he walked out of the place, he also had bullets left to shoot out with the police! Some reported he had as much as 700 bullets or something. That's alot of magazines!


First it was 300 rounds now it's 700 rounds. First it was a single-man operation and now he had help. I'll post a YouTube video that rambles on and eventually blames brain-leeching aliens from Pluto.

Do the math: for the AR15, a 55 grain bullet + ~25 grains of powder (H335!) + ~95 grains per case = 175 grains per cartridge. For the Glock 17, a 124 grain bullet + ~4 grains of powder (Titegroup!) + ~60 grains per case = roughly 188 grains per cartridge. The primer weights for both the .223/5.56 and the 9mm are negligible. There are 7000 grains in a pound. Each magazine for the AR should be about 5oz, probably the same weight for the G17.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:31:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let's get something straight right now, it was one shooter. Everything else is still to be determined. The dribs and drabs of damning and occasionally contradicting news are the direct result of the 24 hour news cycle scrounging to be the first to present some new fact whether it's been confirmed by further investigation of not.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:35:26 PM   
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First it was 300 rounds now it's 700 rounds. First it was a single-man operation and now he had help.

I am doing low estimation of 3 bullets per person shot for 300 rounds, but it's the news media who says about 700 gun shots in total in 100+ victims.

And stop being so ignorant about what lone wolves operation is.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:36:30 PM   
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Let's get something straight right now, it was one shooter. Everything else is still to be determined. The dribs and drabs of damning and occasionally contradicting news are the direct result of the 24 hour news cycle scrounging to be the first to present some new fact whether it's been confirmed by further investigation of not.


I await to see now that they confiscated all his laptop, phone, computers and stuffs, what will they find in there!

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:38:02 PM   
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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:38:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Three hundred, four hundred rounds of 5.56x45 isn't heavy like in the WWII days with .30-06. Ten loaded 30 round magazines is not that much of a load if you distribute it properly. There are vests and bandoleers designed for this purpose. Even being careful, a reload just takes a few seconds, far too fast for any of the targets to overcome their shock, realize the guy is reloading, and react effectively. The sad part is that so many people believe in "gun free zones". As you see, that doesn't slow someone with bad intent down at all, and leaves the law abiding helpless. It's impossible to say definitively, but if there had been even just a handful of legal carriers there armed, this incident could have ended before he got through his first magazine.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:40:29 PM   
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First it was 300 rounds now it's 700 rounds. First it was a single-man operation and now he had help.

I am doing low estimation of 3 bullets per person shot for 300 rounds, but it's the news media who says about 700 gun shots in total in 100+ victims.

And stop being so ignorant about what lone wolves operation is.


Stop being so ignorant in general.

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RE: CBS NEWS: There were multiple shooters in Orlando - 6/14/2016 9:41:44 PM   
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Let's get something straight right now, it was one shooter. Everything else is still to be determined. The dribs and drabs of damning and occasionally contradicting news are the direct result of the 24 hour news cycle scrounging to be the first to present some new fact whether it's been confirmed by further investigation of not.


ah so you were there and are a first hand eyewitness? Got any holes in you?

Oh FFS all bow to the couple tards that run snopes. God has spoken. Geezus snopes are fucking nobodies.

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