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BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/8/2016 11:45:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I just watched the castille video that his wife or girlfriend took.
The Policeman sounded panicky and agitated! Wow! Is he fit to be police?

I think all policemen should be forced to carry chest cameras so all their actions are accounted for.

The only thing is that, he claim he asked castille to show him his hands, and not to take out his license. But he disobeyed and took out his license anyway! So the police shot thinking his drawing a gun, plus it's after he admitted he had a gun.

But the police clearly was in sheer panic and not calm at all. I don't think he was psychologically appropriate to be a law enforcement officer.

I mean, in comparison, the girlfriend had her husband/boyfriend shot dead infront of her and she is so calm, very very calm. She might be more suited to be a police officer.

Personally, that police man is not suited for his career! I don't like his panicky personality. He'll make bad decisions like this one he just made. Even if his not found to be guilty, they should kick him out of the force.


Lets see what shape you are in right after shooting someone. You could evaluate better if the was a tape before the shooting.




BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/8/2016 11:49:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

Nearly midnight here in Florida . . . 11 officers shot, 3 dead, 2 in surgery, 3 critical, shooting is still going on. Maybe two shooters or more???? Tragic.

Eleventh shot in gun fire exchange with one of the shooters. Shooter suspect picture on TV.

Also a bomb threat per police chief press conf.

The governor of MN was asking for this.
Maybe he was just to stupid to realize it.

Right. Black folks didn't notice and needed him to spell it out for them [8|]

So he was just fine throwing gas on the fire.
On top of that it was based on a false assumption.
The news would have you believe that only black people are shot by police when there is a greater chance that a interaction with cops will result in a dead white person than a dead black person. But the press ignores that to keep blacks angry afraid and voting Democrat.




vincentML -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/8/2016 12:00:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ManOeuvre


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ORIGINAL: Stef
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ORIGINAL: Marini
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
I understand that you can shoot them in areas where they won't die.

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Funny how this is rarely mentioned.
Hummmm

Probably because it's fucking idiotic.


I think what stef is getting at is that it is very difficult in a stressful situation to hit anything other than the centre of mass, even for a highly trained professional. When things get that bad, you're about half as good as your worst range day.

First fallacy is assuming all police officers are highly proficient with their weapons. Not so from what I have read.
Secondly, police are charged with first attempting to reduce the tension, not escalate it. But, as to efficiency . . .

New York City police statistics show that simply hitting a target, let alone hitting it in a specific spot, is a difficult challenge. In 2006, in cases where police officers intentionally fired a gun at a person, they discharged 364 bullets and hit their target 103 times, for a hit rate of 28.3 percent, according to the department’s Firearms Discharge Report. The police shot and killed 13 people last year.

In 2005, officers fired 472 times in the same circumstances, hitting their mark 82 times, for a 17.4 percent hit rate. They shot and killed nine people that year.
SOURCE

From the same article however . . .

Bad marksmanship? Police officials and law enforcement experts say no, contending that the number of misses underscores the tense and unpredictable nature of these situations. For example, a 43 percent hit rate for shots fired from zero to six feet might seem low, but at that range it is very likely that something has already gone wrong: perhaps an officer got surprised, or had no cover, or was wrestling with the suspect.

But hey, 100% if you are sitting on the fucker's chest.




BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/8/2016 3:07:38 PM)

FR
Over twice as many whites as blacks are killed by police according to the daily news.




BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/8/2016 3:10:42 PM)

FR
According to wikipedia the black crime rate is 8 times the white crime rate.




BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/8/2016 4:00:34 PM)

52% of crime is commited by blacks, 1/2 as many blacks are killed by cops as whites.
Shouldn't it be the white people complaining about cops singling them out to kill?




Kirata -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 10:32:43 AM)


~ FR ~

I just watched the video linked below. At about 7 minutes in, the following:

The officer told him 'Don't move' and as he was putting his hands back up the officer shot....

Is there something unclear about "Don't move"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ7DhbRUvNI

K.




crazyml -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 10:38:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

I just watched the video linked below. At about 7 minutes in, the following:

The officer told him 'Don't move' and as he was putting his hands back up the officer shot....

Is there something unclear about "Don't move"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ7DhbRUvNI

K.



Actually - in the stress of a situation like that, yeah. It's not uncommon for people to return to their original position when someone shouts "Don't move".

Besides, I'm quite sure that "moving" ought not to be grounds for summary execution. But hey.




vincentML -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 11:15:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

I just watched the video linked below. At about 7 minutes in, the following:

The officer told him 'Don't move' and as he was putting his hands back up the officer shot....

Is there something unclear about "Don't move"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ7DhbRUvNI

K.



Actually - in the stress of a situation like that, yeah. It's not uncommon for people to return to their original position when someone shouts "Don't move".

Besides, I'm quite sure that "moving" ought not to be grounds for summary execution. But hey.

But hey! Black in America. Different rules?




Kirata -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 11:16:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

I'm quite sure that "moving" ought not to be grounds for summary execution. But hey.

Bringing your hand out from behind your back when the officer knows you have a gun and told you "Don't move"?

Shoot? Yes. Execution? No.

If you want to gamble when an armed cop says, "Don't move," fine, place your bet. A lot of guys get shot and live.

He lost. End of story.

K.





Edwird -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 11:56:16 AM)


At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.




BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 2:19:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.

No it isn't.
Why matters, and most likely anyone would have been shot in those circumstances.




mnottertail -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 2:47:11 PM)

see, so there should be nothing other than justification if you off a pig for putting your life in danger and under stress.

that shit works both ways welfare patient.




BamaD -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 6:39:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.

Are you saying that after 5 cops were killed and 7 others were wounded the only thing that matters is that the black terrorist was killed?




thompsonx -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/9/2016 6:50:57 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

Are you saying that after 5 cops were killed and 7 others were wounded the only thing that matters is that the black terrorist was killed?


How do you get that this veteran was a terrorist?




vincentML -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/10/2016 7:49:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BamaD

Are you saying that after 5 cops were killed and 7 others were wounded the only thing that matters is that the black terrorist was killed?


How do you get that this veteran was a terrorist?


[8|][8|][8|] Bama seems to be blaming the cop killings in Dallas on the dead black man in St. Paul.




Kirata -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/10/2016 7:58:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.

I'd like to think that you're being sarcastic.

K.




vincentML -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/10/2016 8:08:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Edwird


At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.


No it isn't.
Why matters, and most likely anyone would have been shot in those circumstances.

I'll bet under the same circumstances your momma or wife would not have been shot.




Kirata -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/10/2016 8:26:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: Edwird

At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.

No it isn't.
Why matters, and most likely anyone would have been shot in those circumstances.

I'll bet under the same circumstances your momma or wife would not have been shot.

Tell an armed cop that you've got a gun, reach behind you, and then disobey his "Don't move!" command?

Yeah, I'll take that bet.

K.




vincentML -> RE: COPS OVERREACTING OR JUSTIFIED KILLINGS (7/10/2016 8:41:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: Edwird

At the end of the day, a black guy got killed.

That's all that matters.

No it isn't.
Why matters, and most likely anyone would have been shot in those circumstances.

I'll bet under the same circumstances your momma or wife would not have been shot.

Tell an armed cop that you've got a gun, reach behind you, and then disobey his "Don't move!" command?

Yeah, I'll take that bet.

K.


Bullshit. You know better. Castile was stopped 28 times over the past ten years for minor infractions, except of course DWB.

BTW, why did the cop have his gun out already when Castile was reaching fo his license and simultaneously informing the cop he was carrying? Was the cop afraid of stopping a black man for a busted tail light?




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