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Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 2:28:53 AM   
Shyslavegirl2016


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First time poster so please forgive me if it is rubbish!

I have a true craving for imprisonment. Not in a cupboard, not in a dog cage, but in a proper cell. I know outside of an actual prison that is very hard for someone to actually provide. Am I just being silly? Should I accept it won't happen?

Amy

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 3:00:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Difficult, but certainly not impossible. We're looking to build a new home, and could incorporate such a "facility" if we found the right girl. Hell, we may even build one just in case: it can always be used as a storeroom if no other purpose can be found for it.

But finding someone who already possesses a cell is going to be a true needle-in-a-haystack quest.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 3:02:57 AM   
Shyslavegirl2016


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Many thanks for your reply. I think you are so right, someone building a new home might be able to include a cell as part of the construction but I am going have to be very lucky to find someone who already has one ready and waiting!

Would love to chat more

Xxx

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 7:52:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay...so now for the common sense...

For you to live in imprisonment means that someone has to pay for your existence, do your cleaning, cook your meals, clothe you, etc, while you're essentially useless.

Fantasy is great, but you need to look at things realistically.



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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 8:11:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here is something I wrote a few years ago to answer someone else who wanted to be imprisoned 24/7.

Owner must provide and cook food for slave. Owner must hire slave sitter when leaving the home for work, shopping, or socializing. Owner must provide and pay for medical and dental needs of slave. Owner would like to go on a vacation but can not afford to hire a slave sitter for the needed week, so stays home to provide for slave. Owner spends much time in basement to provide social and intellectual stimulation for slave or risk slave going crazy. Owner would really like a night off to sit in Lazy Boy chair and watch a video, however, after working all day, caring for slave upon getting home, owner now needs to clean own home and do own laundry.

The slave seems to get all the benefits, the owner gets all the work.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 8:25:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's a fantasy I run across from time to time, and yes: it always needs to be tempered with reason and reality.

I would assume the "sentence" included exercise and slopping-out sessions and "working parties" where the prisoner was released - perhaps in shackles - to perform household duties. 24/7 in a cell could begin to have damaging psychological effects after a week or two. Meals could be normal food - including leftovers - liquidised to make them unpalatable. There would be expenses incurred, but these could be settled separately.

But I agree that keeping a girl confined in a cell doesn't give much benefit to the jailer.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 8:47:53 AM   
Shyslavegirl2016


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Status: offline 		Does the complete and utter power the owner has over the prison girl count as a benefit though? Waking up and knowing you have a girl locked away must give the owner a very strong sense of power?

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 8:55:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		That depends on the person. For some, the knowledge is enough. Having the power is sufficient. But for some - I'd suggest for most - HAVING the power is just not enough: what gives the greatest feedback is exercising that power. Actually DOING something to/for/with the girl. Which begins to impinge upon the "reality" of the imprisonment scenario.

Having a flash car in the garage is good fun: you can go down and look at it, polish it, run your fingers over it... But 99% of people who owned a flash car would want to get it out and drive it. Often.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 8:58:10 AM   
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Does the complete and utter power the owner has over the prison girl count as a benefit though? Waking up and knowing you have a girl locked away must give the owner a very strong sense of power?

The "owner" can have that sort of power and control without having said 'prisoner' locked up in a cell.
Unless the owner has a particular kink (and the funds) for keeping someone a prisoner, I would say that it is of no benefit whatsoever to know that you have someone locked away in a cell.

On the contrary, having someone locked up and totally useless and unproductive would very soon wear off unless they happen to have an abusive streak - and that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.

As peppermint and MissShey have said, that sort of scenario is of no joy or benefit for the jailer and everything for the "prisoner".
That, to me, is just ass-backwards for a D/s or M/s relationship.


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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 8:59:20 AM   
Shyslavegirl2016


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Status: offline 		I like your analogy! But there is nothing to stop an owner taking their slave out of the fell for work and use? As for the cost of the prisoner, they may able to contribute financially with savings from their previous life

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:02:26 AM   
Shyslavegirl2016


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Status: offline 		Is it possible to minimise the effort put in by the owner? The prisoner keeps her cell clean, she prepares her meals in advance during time out of her cell? I'm just thinking out loud!

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:07:18 AM   
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Is it possible to minimise the effort put in by the owner? The prisoner keeps her cell clean, she prepares her meals in advance during time out of her cell? I'm just thinking out loud!

Not really.
Keeping someone in a cell is like keeping a high-maintenance pet.
If said prisoner is virtually self-maintained, they aren't going to be spending much time in the cell are they?!

The scenario that you are fantasizing about is almost impossible to make a reality in the way that you are describing.


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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:12:34 AM   
Shyslavegirl2016


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Status: offline 		I entirely see your point but I think a lot could be achieved with 1 or 2 hours outside the cell each day.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:23:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's still not practical in reality.

Let's say you get all that stuff done at say... 9am.
What happens for the next 22 hours?
The jailer would still need to attend the prisoner, to run around handing the food and drink over, taking the empties away, living with the smell of a slop bucket, yada yada yada.
And you certainly couldn't get all the prisoner's laundry done, dried and sorted within those 1-2 hours let alone the expense!!

And what does the jailer do while the prisoner is in the cell?
Do all their normal stuff whilest having to provide for said prisoner as well??
That's a pretty lop-sided way of life that nobody in their right mind would want to take on.
If you were talking about very short-term one-off prisoner scenes periodically, that could be possible. But certainly not for any real length of time or over a long period.

To put it simply: It's just incredibly unrealistic and virtually impossible.


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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:35:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		So what happens when he wakes up in the middle of the night and wants sex? He can't just roll over, grab you, get to it and then roll back over and go to sleep.

Instead he has to walk downstairs. Unlock the cell, drag you back upstairs to the bed, then take you back down, lock you back up, and walk back up. By which time he's wide awake.

It's easier if you spend most of your time out of it, but get put in while he's watching tv and as a reward for good behavior.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:39:30 AM   
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It's still not practical in reality.

Let's say you get all that stuff done at say... 9am.
What happens for the next 22 hours?
Absolutely nothing. They sit and do nothing. No entertainment, no interaction, no stimulus. I'm willing to bet that by day 3, they'd be bored out of their mind.


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And what does the jailer do while the prisoner is in the cell?
The jailer becomes a prisoner as well. They have to work and provide for the prisoner. And because the prisoner cannot be left in the house alone (for safety reasons) - the jailer loses their outside life as well.


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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 9:49:52 AM   
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That's why I said it's just incredibly unrealistic and virtually impossible and not something that any sane person would want to take on.


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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 10:00:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course. I know a couple of houses in the Denver area that have a cage.

If you'd be willing to scale it back to, say, three hours a day in the cell, you could probably find someone.

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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 10:31:40 AM   
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RE: Prison? Possible or not? - 7/11/2016 12:15:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Shyslavegirl2016

I entirely see your point but I think a lot could be achieved with 1 or 2 hours outside the cell each day.


It is irresponsible to leave someone locked in a cage and leave the premises. What happens if there is a medical emergency? What happens if there is a fire? The only way to responsibly handle those situations is to hire someone to be at the house when the owner is not there. That costs big money. Of course if the prisoner was very wealthy I suppose they could pay for that someone as well as pay for their own medical and dental needs, and food. I suppose the prisoner could then afford to pay for someone to stay 24/7 in the house when the owner has a medical emergency or a family emergency or takes a very deserved vacation. How much money does the prisoner think will be needed to spend a year, or 5 years, or a lifetime caged?

Do you really think that 1-2 hours outside the cage will really relieve the owner of most of the day to day tasks of life? Do you really think the "thought" of owning someone and having them caged is going to outweigh the time and responsibility that the prisoner requires?

Of course, you could give the prisoner a key to the cell so the prisoner could leave the cell whenever it's required. Then you have negated that "feeling" of being a prisoner if you know you can let yourself out as needed.

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