Chaska
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But you see, this is the legacy of an American 'tradition' This is the 'American culture' where the 2nd amend. is the enabler.
I have a right to own guns.
I have a right to defend my home.
I have a right to call the police.
I have a right to shoot to kill and even before the police arrive.
Another attempt to trash all gun owners because one person screwed up.
And other than me not one word about underage drinking which set the situation up.
Not true. I brought it up in my post that you responded to. I said they were irresponsible for drinking. But that doesn't equal a death sentence.
Sorry, I missed that. I apologize. And again I have stated two or three times that none of this gives the home owner a pass.
We have two serious problems independant of each other. Underage drinking leads to a lot of deaths. And this guy screwed up big time. Neither is negated in any way by the other. ** The kid would be alive if he hadn't been drunk.** The kid would be alive if the homeowner hadn't screwed up.
I disagree, Kids do stupid shit, like knocking on doors when they are not drinking just for kicks, not to mention adults that mistakenly knock on the wrong door. This kid is dead because of this homeowner's pure unadulterated stupidly.
And it's what? Homeowners' jobs to understand and coddle stupid shit from kids whose parents can't be responsible for teaching their spawn respect? I wasn't an angel but I had better ways to blow off steam than running around knocking on people's doors...breaking their glass.
This gun owner made a mistake for damn sure...but so did the kids.
The homeowner is an adult with a gun, it's his responsibly to understand the law, threat assessment and act accordingly .
I don't believe in coddling kids or adults when it comes to disrespect, but don't see the need to shoot them for it.
I have had kids knock on my door and did not find it amusing in the least, it was an nuisance. They posed no threat,
so nothing more than a verbal reprimand was warranted and they didn't do it again. If their parents are so irresponsible
that they don't teach them respect, it's not the kid's fault they are idiots. So someone needs to man up and correct their
behavior hopefully they will learn from it or give them something to think about the next time.
In this case, the homeowner was safe in his house, the police were on the way, there was no need for deadly force.
I'm truly bewilder that some are such wuss's they can't handle a minor confrontation or any confrontation with pertinence.
Note: You cannot fix stupidity, there is no cure, while some would like to eradicate it form this world it's not an executable offense.
Yes...he's an adult with a gun. He has responsibilities both as an adult and as a gun owner. Did he screw up on those responsibilities? He did...as I noted earlier.
But who screwed up first? The 15 Year old. Getting drunk (illegal), mistaking his location (not illegal but certainly helped along by the illegally consumed substance), harassing the owner of the property when he'd been asked to leave (illegal), damaging the property of the homeowner (illegal).
Did his mistakes make him eligible to die? No. Do his actions and choices make him at least partially responsible for his death? Yes. If we can hold 15 Year olds responsible for causing death when a weapon is in their hands, we can certainly make them at least partially responsible when their actions lead them to their own deaths, even when that death comes at the hands of someone who should have chosen a more responsible path.
Have you ever killed someone or had to?
I've been in war and have, it ain't pretty. Ever had you bother in arms shoot right next to you blood shooting out of his body, cover in
his and your blood while trying to stop the bleeding until medics get there? I ain't no hero, my PTSD mercury switch is about to short- circuit. and I am not about to go on with more gore.
Have you ever lost a child?
My 41 year old daughter had here fucking brains blowout by a fukwit igit, now her 13 year old son doesn't have a mother, I'll never
be able to hold her again to tell how much I love her. Not to mention family, friends or anything else. Have I thought about blowing
the motherfucker away hell YES, preferable I would like to see him suffer until his last drop of blood and last breath leave his pathetic corpse but, this is up to the court of law. Nuff said, I'm about to go thermonuclear. Note: This did not make national news it was just a small article in the back of the local paper where she was at the time.
Who screwed up first? Are you frickin serious? That's akin to, who/he started it first? What kind of rationale is that? Sounds like the
immature reasoning of, he hit me first. This ain't no kids game, It's serious shit this boy is dead as a doornail. I've not negated his was
drunk and broke a window accidentally or deliberately. His actions are matter of law and for them to decided the appropriate punishment
if any, not the homeowner to be judge, jury and executioner. Not to mention the fact they were outside with no way of determining they
were drunk while he is safe in his damn house or if window was purposely broken. They were of no threat to him or able to cause him any harm from outside the house, It was not as if they had guns blazing through his door or house.
I've had numerous encounters throughout life that did not require shooting anyone under more stressful conditions and much more
dangers circumstances and did not have to shoot anyone. All of this kind of shit is pure insanity and all anyone wants to do is debate
more guns, less guns, no guns or all the other horseshit. Instead of looking at the root cause, solutions and doing something about it
This includes all the people up to the president, all the damn politicians do is put on a dog an pony show then rinse and repeat.
Just read the forum here same shit here rinse and repeat. Is everyone so ate up the dumb-ass that don't see what the fuck is going
on and just want to piss and moan about this or that stupid shit. Wake the fuck up people it ain't gonna get no better until we come
together as one and do something about this madness.
I honestly would like to hear some answers about, how or what we can change or do about the morally bankrupt people with no regard for human life in this or any other society until something is done it will remain the status quo, off my soapbox.
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