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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/30/2016 7:56:56 AM

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I always wondered what John and Bobby would have done/accomplished if they had not been assisinated.

In John's case, his big achievement if he'd finished his term might well have been causing a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. Isn't one of the more popular conspiracy theories that the military bumped him off to prevent that? I can buy that one a lot more than the mafia notion that Termy seems to favour, as he'd already had the SAC watching their phone nervously two or three times before his trip to Dallas.

(On that level, though, lumping in Nixon with Kennedy seems a bit off, as there's as much evidence for him being the author of his own downfall as there is for him having been fitted up.)

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/30/2016 8:06:01 AM

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I always wondered what John and Bobby would have done/accomplished if they had not been assisinated.

In John's case, his big achievement if he'd finished his term might well have been causing a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. Isn't one of the more popular conspiracy theories that the military bumped him off to prevent that? I can buy that one a lot more than the mafia notion that Termy seems to favour, as he'd already had the SAC watching their phone nervously two or three times before his trip to Dallas.

(On that level, though, lumping in Nixon with Kennedy seems a bit off, as there's as much evidence for him being the author of his own downfall as there is for him having been fitted up.)

I agree Nixon and the Kennedy's don't belong in the same book.

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Thanks in part to the wonderful capitalist global economy!
I have talked about this on here for at least 10 years, I take a break from it sometimes.
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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/30/2016 8:11:19 AM

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That's where these conspiracy theories cease to work: the fact that the.005% run the world already, and everybody knows it. They can already do whatever the hell they want, so why would they jeopardise that with a load of Dan Brown bullshit? Odd notion, really.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/30/2016 2:19:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Marini
I always wondered what John and Bobby would have done/accomplished if they had not been assisinated.

In John's case, his big achievement if he'd finished his term might well have been causing a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. Isn't one of the more popular conspiracy theories that the military bumped him off to prevent that? I can buy that one a lot more than the mafia notion that Termy seems to favour, as he'd already had the SAC watching their phone nervously two or three times before his trip to Dallas.
(On that level, though, lumping in Nixon with Kennedy seems a bit off, as there's as much evidence for him being the author of his own downfall as there is for him having been fitted up.)

Wasn't JFK assassinated over EO#11110?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHyFUXvGAk

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/30/2016 10:40:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Marini
I always wondered what John and Bobby would have done/accomplished if they had not been assisinated.

In John's case, his big achievement if he'd finished his term might well have been causing a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. Isn't one of the more popular conspiracy theories that the military bumped him off to prevent that? I can buy that one a lot more than the mafia notion that Termy seems to favour, as he'd already had the SAC watching their phone nervously two or three times before his trip to Dallas.
(On that level, though, lumping in Nixon with Kennedy seems a bit off, as there's as much evidence for him being the author of his own downfall as there is for him having been fitted up.)

Wasn't JFK assassinated over EO#11110?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHyFUXvGAk

Delegating his Presidential authority to issue Silver certificates to the Secretary of the Treasury? No. That's a conspiracy theory so stupid it doesn't even begin to make sense.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 11:36:38 AM

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Muslims across France have attended Catholic Mass in a gesture of solidarity after the murder of a priest on Tuesday.

Fr Jacques Hamel was killed in his church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen by two men who had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group.

France's Muslim council, the CFCM, urged Muslims to show "solidarity and compassion" over the murder.

"We are all Catholics of France," said Anouar Kbibech, the head of the CFCM.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36936658?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 11:57:39 AM

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Muslims across France have attended Catholic Mass in a gesture of solidarity after the murder of a priest on Tuesday.

Fr Jacques Hamel was killed in his church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen by two men who had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group.

France's Muslim council, the CFCM, urged Muslims to show "solidarity and compassion" over the murder.

"We are all Catholics of France," said Anouar Kbibech, the head of the CFCM.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36936658?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

And this....

THE shocked community reeling after two ISIS killers entered a church and killed an elderly priest in France are refusing to bury the pair following their wretched act. Adel Kermiche and Abdelmalik Petitjean will not be given a Muslim burial by locals who say they do not want to "taint" Islam . . . Mohammed Karabila, imam of one of the town's mosques, told Le Parisien: "We're not going to taint Islam with this person. "We won't participate in preparing the body or the burial." ~Source

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 1:32:59 PM

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I always wondered what John and Bobby would have done/accomplished if they had not been assisinated.

In John's case, his big achievement if he'd finished his term might well have been causing a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. Isn't one of the more popular conspiracy theories that the military bumped him off to prevent that? I can buy that one a lot more than the mafia notion that Termy seems to favour, as he'd already had the SAC watching their phone nervously two or three times before his trip to Dallas.

(On that level, though, lumping in Nixon with Kennedy seems a bit off, as there's as much evidence for him being the author of his own downfall as there is for him having been fitted up.)

What mafia notion, there is no mafia.

What I assert is that the Mossad had the job done because he wrote to David BenGurion threatening to cut off all aid to Israel if they did not stop their nuclear buildup. That might not have been quite enough but then he issued EO11011 which took international (Jew owned) banmks to the back seat in the US economy, allowing the government to issues currency not backed by credit.

If you are talking about "mafia" like Gotti or whatever, they had nothing to do with it.

Read the lines, not in between the lines.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 1:38:30 PM

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And this....

THE shocked community reeling after two ISIS killers entered a church and killed an elderly priest in France are refusing to bury the pair following their wretched act. Adel Kermiche and Abdelmalik Petitjean will not be given a Muslim burial by locals who say they do not want to "taint" Islam . . . Mohammed Karabila, imam of one of the town's mosques, told Le Parisien: "We're not going to taint Islam with this person. "We won't participate in preparing the body or the burial." ~Source

K.

THIS is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about, when I call for "peace-lovin' Muslims" to do more to win hearts and minds in the fight against Jihadi scum buckets!

God/Allah bless these clerics.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 1:44:25 PM

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Got to stop those bombs and drones though. They don't like that. Would you ?

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 3:17:13 PM

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Muslims across France have attended Catholic Mass in a gesture of solidarity after the murder of a priest on Tuesday.

Fr Jacques Hamel was killed in his church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen by two men who had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group.

France's Muslim council, the CFCM, urged Muslims to show "solidarity and compassion" over the murder.

"We are all Catholics of France," said Anouar Kbibech, the head of the CFCM.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36936658?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

This is great news.
I am so glad that the Muslim community is coming forth with solidarity.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 3:51:12 PM

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Muslims across France have attended Catholic Mass in a gesture of solidarity after the murder of a priest on Tuesday.

Fr Jacques Hamel was killed in his church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray near Rouen by two men who had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group.

France's Muslim council, the CFCM, urged Muslims to show "solidarity and compassion" over the murder.

"We are all Catholics of France," said Anouar Kbibech, the head of the CFCM.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36936658?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

And this....

THE shocked community reeling after two ISIS killers entered a church and killed an elderly priest in France are refusing to bury the pair following their wretched act. Adel Kermiche and Abdelmalik Petitjean will not be given a Muslim burial by locals who say they do not want to "taint" Islam . . . Mohammed Karabila, imam of one of the town's mosques, told Le Parisien: "We're not going to taint Islam with this person. "We won't participate in preparing the body or the burial." ~Source

K.

Thanks, I was going to bring this up but you beat me to it.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 4:23:38 PM

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Obviously, not all Islamics are the same; just as all religious groups are not the same.
But my observations and comments that I made in my earlier post seem to show a completely different side than the picture you paint from Iran.

Maybe in their homeland where they can live an Islamic lifestyle, leads to a different expectation and behaviour than when they arrive here only to find that many things they did at home are illegal here.
Many do not understand that a law of the land can override a religious doctrine that is accepted and practiced as a normal part of their life.

The root conflict which must be dealt with when consider Muslims immigrants in Western societies comes down to our insistence on the primacy of Western law above Sharia law and their insistence upon Sharia law prevailing over Western law.

You can't legislate positive attitudes. Islam is anti-gay and there's nothing you can do about that - but you can insist on rigid adherence to Western law. Unfortunately, the UK's new Prime Minister Theresa May has previously said that "Many Britons 'benefit greatly' from Sharia law" - a disturbing attitude which raises serious questions about her fitness as Prime Minister and her ability enable the transition away from the EU.

You dont know what Theresa May was talking about as you didnt quote her actual words, which isnt at all odd as you dont know wtf you are talking about most of the time.

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May said: “Many British people of different faiths follow religious codes and practices, and benefit a great deal from the guidance they offer.

“A number of women have reportedly been victims of what appear to be discriminatory decisions taken by sharia councils, and that is a significant concern. There is only one rule of law in our country, which provides rights and security for every citizen.”

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 4:26:54 PM

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"Prime Minister Theresa May has previously said that "Many Britons 'benefit greatly' from Sharia law" "

I would like to know how she reached that conclusion.

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That wasnt what she said Termy. see my previous post.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 4:29:16 PM

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Oh thanks T, anyone can respond.
I know you don't consider being "mentally ill" an excuse for terrorist activity.

I asked them since they both live in the UK.

Here is a hint, mentally ill people do mental things, if they were all sane and rational they wouldnt be mentally ill ffs.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 7/31/2016 4:34:12 PM

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Well, because it allows men to beat their wives and it prescribes the death penalty for gay sex. Are you really asking this question Maria?

You should spend less time posting on here and more time reading a few facts, then you wouldnt come across as a fuckwit most of the time.

In the UK, Sharia Law doesnt take precedence over UK Law. Like the Jewish Courts it is used for settling Civil matters. Therefore murdering anyone or beating anyone isnt allowed. You wont get a clue though, because you prefer to wallow in ignorance.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 8/1/2016 4:52:50 AM

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What mafia notion, there is no mafia.

You're the one who namedropped Santo Trafficante along with Kennedy and Nixon.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 8/1/2016 12:00:32 PM

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Is mental illness an "excuse" for terrorism?
I especially find issue with the fact most of the "mentally ill" terrorists, were cognitively aware enough to plan the attacks, locate and get the weapons, often leave some sort of manifesto, etc.
I would enjoy thoughts on labeling the terrorist in Germany at the mall, and the terrorist that murdered the priest, being labeled mentally ill.

There are many different types of mental illness; some more visible than others. People with psychopathy or antisocial personality disorders are more likely to plan and partake in acts of violence but both these illnesses may appear invisible to people who don’t know them well and sometimes to people who do know them well.

According to criminal law, many mental disorders don’t make a person less accountable for a crime. The legal system has experts who use something called a ‘capacity test’ which shows if the perpetrator has capacity to fully understand what he is/was doing. They look for previous criminal acts of violence or actions that could lead to violence and they look at their medical history. What we need to understand is, people with mental illness can and often do have full capacity and someone with full capacity can commit a crime outside of his mental illness or because of it.

Whilst our own emotions may get in the way of how we want to deal with such people in a kangaroo court, a diagnosis is not up to us, its up to the experts.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 8/1/2016 5:28:36 PM

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"Prime Minister Theresa May has previously said that "Many Britons 'benefit greatly' from Sharia law" "

I would like to know how she reached that conclusion.

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That wasnt what she said Termy. see my previous post.

Yup, you can't trust quotes on the internet.

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RE: WTF happened in Normandy - 8/1/2016 5:53:30 PM

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Oh thanks T, anyone can respond.
I know you don't consider being "mentally ill" an excuse for terrorist activity.

I asked them since they both live in the UK.

Here is a hint, mentally ill people do mental things, if they were all sane and rational they wouldnt be mentally ill ffs.

There's a reason I do not support the notion of any type of insanity defense. First of all it is not used for theft, I'd like to see someone get out of grand theft using mental illness as a defense. The judge would be laughing. So would I. Catch someone fucking your olady, hell, I would say I didn't know she was cheating on me, I was protecting her, of course that doesn't work if I kill her too but oh well. Still it is alot of stress either way.

But anyway, like a true pedophile, I don't mean a 17 year old here, you know that going for prepubescent indicates insanity. However, execute them. They will be cured.

The only insanity in these terrorists is brought on by their religion. And they fact that not all of them are terrorists indicates that most of them are out for revenge. Remember, the US started it. You kill my family, I consider taking revenge to be totally sane.

Remember the words in the report "You Christians kill us...". That is not insanity. You could say it is madness but using the term meaning angered. Let someone kill your family and see how calm you stay. And what's more the killers go unpunished.

Whoever killed those cops down south, how many people around there been fucked over, beaten or killed by the cops ? It is not even illogical, let alone insane. And if they got the right ones, like McVeigh tried to do but missed, that is even saner. Saner than what the government agents did to the Weaver family Saner than using a drone to kill THE SON of a terrorist who they already killed, along with some of that famous collateral damage.

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