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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:05:54 PM   
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Especially to my own history. I never allowed a man to pay for me ever when I was younger, because I believed in equal rights.


So you're a feminist, then. Careful, now ....

No, I used to be during my twenties, but as I said, I learn the lesson that men love you more when you allow them to pay for you. Which is true in my experience. They treasure you more when you hurt their pocket. So I believe in letting a man pay for everything now. And that's pretty much what I have been doing since after my divorce.
When Men who don't have to foot a single cent for your company, takes you for granted, just my personal experience.
And seriously, I never experienced a male caucasian or Asian ever want to go dutch with me. In my twenties, it was my strong insistence, I would literally take my money and stuff it into their pocket and run away. Even platonic male friends, if it was one-one hang out, always insist on paying, they will always say, I can buy them dinner next time, but then next and next time, always insist on paying.

I used to give my x-husband face by using my supplementary credit card to pay for our meals, but in actuality, I am paying, but it would look like he is paying, but I had refused to let him pay, despite even after marriage.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:12:41 PM   
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That sounds like a quite sad learning experience for you, Greta, seriously.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:15:27 PM   
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Pay for NOTHING. Find out if she can cook.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:15:54 PM   
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That sounds like a quite sad learning experience for you, Greta, seriously.


Well, it's just reality. If men doesn't have financials invested in you, in some way, they view you as an easy free fuck and throw. If they are spending shitloads of money on you, fine dining, stupid amount of money over wine and dinner, buying you gifts, they feel like, they are invested. I think it's a psychological thing. Also as I said, men here feels really good and needed when they are providing. A woman who does not want any material things from them, they don't feel needed. As alot of men really don't want to give emotional support or see the value of emotional support. They prefer you to go find girlfriends for those things.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:20:47 PM   
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I'm not a feminist because I want someone to pay for me.

I'm a feminist because when I'm ill, doctors haven't tested meds on women and it's harder to cure me.
I'm a feminist because I went to school before Title 9, and we had no sports.

I'm a feminist because when I applied to Harvard, they had a small quota of females and had filled that so even though I was better than many of the boys who had applied, I had no chance.

I'm a feminist because I wanted more for my daughter. I didn't want her to have to offer sex in order to get a job. I wanted her to be treated for a formerly fatal illness, and know that the dosage was correct, that there were not unforeseen side effects for girls. I wanted her to go to college and compete in sports.

Boring stuff like that.
Oh yeah, and I've always offered to pay my share of the bill. I don't like men who think buying me a drink entitles them to sex.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:20:57 PM   
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Pay for NOTHING. Find out if she can cook.

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These days, men love to cook more than women though.
All the men I dated did the cooking. I prefer washing dishes. But don't make me cook. It will either be tasteless or too salty. Never in between. I just have no ability to make a decent meal.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 6:22:52 PM   
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Oh yeah, and I've always offered to pay my share of the bill. I don't like men who think buying me a drink entitles them to sex.

Maybe it's different in different countries. And also, over here, it's still kind of a mainstream culture to not have sex until after marriage. As in, if a girl says she won't have sex until marriage, it's the norm, and most men expect and respect that, so we seldom have the situation where they buy you stuffs and expect sex. Because there is no expectation of any sex before marriage. And men who expect to have sex with a woman before marrying her is still heavily frown upon, like it's not acceptable behaviour at all.

But I am thinking bible belts gotta be the same, since they technically should be all about abstinence?



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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 7:00:03 PM   
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I'm not a feminist because I want someone to pay for me.

I'm a feminist because when I'm ill, doctors haven't tested meds on women and it's harder to cure me.
I'm a feminist because I went to school before Title 9, and we had no sports.

I'm a feminist because when I applied to Harvard, they had a small quota of females and had filled that so even though I was better than many of the boys who had applied, I had no chance.

I'm a feminist because I wanted more for my daughter. I didn't want her to have to offer sex in order to get a job. I wanted her to be treated for a formerly fatal illness, and know that the dosage was correct, that there were not unforeseen side effects for girls. I wanted her to go to college and compete in sports.

Boring stuff like that.
Oh yeah, and I've always offered to pay my share of the bill. I don't like men who think buying me a drink entitles them to sex.


Sounds like you are out for equality. That is not the OP's definition of a feminist. But like any group there are those who go too far. Like White separatists. I see nothing wrong with segregation. Separate but equal didn't work because things were right, but now that the schools are defunct it doesn't matter. I almost bought a neighborhood many years ago. I would control who rented there, and NEVER advertised publicly so nobody could fuck with me over it. Rich folk do it. They got developments with homeowner's associations that must approve you to buy a house there. I have no problem with Blacks, Italians, Hispanics or whoever doing the same thing. You just need the money. I was almost there at one time but developed some expensive habits. (not drugs)

But when the integrated the schools here with forced busing, the White people moved out. Good going assholes.

Maybe real feminists were the bra burners. Remember that ? (be sure to take it off first) Maybe they were the Mothers who marched in the streets and got thrown in jail for protesting against the US' involvement in WW2.

Women got plenty of rights here, especially the ones who can assert themselves. The feminist movement needs to go to Muslim countries if they want to do something. Hey, I am a non-interventionist but that means the government. Normal people can do what they want. Unfortunately they would probably execute you en masse. Then we have an international incident so to speak. Then we're back to making more enemies. Those Women there didn't help you.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 7:10:48 PM   
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The feminist movement needs to go to Muslim countries if they want to do something.

Problem is, they will all just be arrested and burnt at the stake.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 7:17:13 PM   
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"Didja ever notice that all the women who are so loud about being pro abortion are women you wouldn't fuck, anyway?"

Not in my country, since all women are pro-abortion and they are mostly size 0.



Do you know, I'm beginning to think what's considered ordinary and middle of the road varies from one country to another?

People who aren't American, aren't like Americans. Go figure!

That has become more and more clear to me these past few years, when paying more attention to what is considered 'right' and 'left' here in the U.S. compared to other countries.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 7:25:00 PM   
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But I am thinking bible belts gotta be the same, since they technically should be all about abstinence?

Having lived in the Bible Belt my whole life, and raised Southern Baptist, I can assure you that that is the party line that is preached in the churches and in the legislatures, but beyond that it is not practiced. Nor is it expected among the millennial and younger generations.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 7:34:05 PM   
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Pay for NOTHING. Find out if she can cook.

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These days, men love to cook more than women though.
All the men I dated did the cooking. I prefer washing dishes. But don't make me cook. It will either be tasteless or too salty. Never in between. I just have no ability to make a decent meal.


I lost my taste for cooking these last few years. I used to make a killer chicken paprikash that everyone said it was the best they ever had, and one said he was a kash aficionado. I mean went to expensive restaurants to try it out, and good kash is not cheap. My version is a combination of a couple different old world styles, and it takes five hours to make. Another thing is my spaghetti sauce, a bit too spicy for some but others will always want it, I have only tasted two other people's sauce and found it on par and I have tried alot. It is another thing, I mean, I put onions in three times. And my chili is pretty good, I make the red kind. That is the easiest of my specialties and I just don''t feel like doing that anymore. Takes time.

Almost everyone wants me to grill steaks on charcoal though. I have a technique. They say to spread the coals out evenly - bullshit. you can do it that way because this one wants rare, another wants medium well and all that, and I want black and blue. Pile the coals up on one side so you have hot side and a cold side.

But see, if I got a Wife I work. When I get home I want something good to eat. The way society was structured the Wife had to cook. You do not enjoy something as much when you have to do it. But I would not expect a gourmet meal every day. Fancy stuff is for the weekends. What's more, I will even do the dishes. I don't mind. People I live with always jump the gun, I said I would do them but let them pile up a bit. They want to only use like 2" of water and only half fill the drainer. I want to fill the sink so the water stays better and run a few loads through it and make the drainer sag from the weight. And I DO know how to load it properly so everything dries.

But anyway, I think the reason Men like to cook is because most do not have to. And you know the story of the typical "American" cookout. The Woman fixes all the side dishes, makes salad and whatnot, maybe even homemade potato salad or something like that, the Man goes out to the grill and drags it out of the garage. Then he goes to the store for a case of beer. Gets back and finds there is not enough charcoal - or lighter - one or the other, goes out to get that with a couple of buddies and decides they need another case of beer. Gets back, loads the grill and lights it and as you may know you have to wait to cook so it does not taste like diesel fuel.

After about forty minutes it is time to put the steaks on and the Woman has them all salted or soaked in saltwater, or spiced, depends. If it is a barbecue she boiled them in the beer. The kitchen is 150F and the guys are outside and whichever ones are not standing around the grill are checking out the engine in the pickup truck. Bout time the meat is done they have to open up the second case of beer.

Then the Men go out in the back and burn one and have a few more beers and the Woman starts cleaning up the mess.

I do not deny this, even though I am a menist. I think Men belong in control of the world, but what we have mostly are not Men. Men have certain traits and I see them very rarely. Last one died over ten years ago though I think if I knew my cousins better they might qualify. Old mountain Man type he was. Also hosted the weekly poker game. About $100 to get a seat. His girlfriends swooned over him, one got too horny with him when he was trying to watch Gunsmoke so he had to handcuff her.

She whined and bitched so much he said "I'll take you to the police and they can take them off". And he did. She spent the night there. I would give my left nut to have been witness to that. Too bad it was so long ago there is not going to be any video on the internet. I bet the cops laughed their ass off.

But he didn't have the attitude of RM. He had his own house and his rules were the rules. He knew all about feminists but didn't go around hawking it. Just said the hell with them. Basic deal - you pay the bills you make the rules.

And he is the one who introduced me to paprikash. I did improve on it but he used to cook as well. In fact I don't really remember any of his girlfriends cooking at all.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/1/2016 10:11:26 PM   
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But see, if I got a Wife I work. When I get home I want something good to eat. The way society was structured the Wife had to cook. You do not enjoy something as much when you have to do it. But I would not expect a gourmet meal every day. Fancy stuff is for the weekends. What's more, I will even do the dishes. I don't mind. People I live with always jump the gun, I said I would do them but let them pile up a bit. They want to only use like 2" of water and only half fill the drainer. I want to fill the sink so the water stays better and run a few loads through it and make the drainer sag from the weight. And I DO know how to load it properly so everything dries.

Yea, I work best with a male who can do the cooking, I can do the prep of ingredients and the cleaning up, but the actual skills of cooking, getting it to taste right. It's embarrassing, I think I have tossed the same old pasta a hundreds of time and cannot get it to taste great. We Chinese believe in the hand that handles the wok, not everybody is made equal when handling a wok fried noodles, a perfectly done one needs to have "the taste of the wok". Like a simple aglio olio, really super basic, that all you need is garlic, olive oil, some salt and pepper. One of my friends is a chef, he did it once in his restaurant kitchen, demonstrated to me, and I tasted his version, it was amazing. Aromatic Garlic infused on every strand of his linguine. So I repeated and did exactly like what he did. I got tasteless pasta. I felt like I copied his actions identical, and used the exact same ingredients he did, but my pasta somehow, did not come out right. My fire maybe not on point, I don't know, he cooks by feel. I am trying to get all the technical aspect right but cannot produce what he can produce.

I also believe it or not, spent 6 months in a cooking school, learning how to make broth from scratch, making all the sauces from scratch, learning how to cook from making a perfect steak, to making fish and chips from scratch, like start with filleting a fish and produce your own tar tar sauce, to making my own desserts.

Everything failed. It was so hard. Getting doneness right on a thick juicy fat tenderloin was especially freaking hard! Using an oven would be cheating, but on a pan, fucking hard! Never got it right without crucifying the crap out the outside. We learnt how to braise lamb, cure meats, bake fish right. It was a pretty good cooking class. But I learnt in that class I was hopeless.

My x-dom used to be such a saint, I mean, initially he insisted I cook, so I cooked. But my own cooking was so bad, I usually could not eat my own food, but he will finish them no matter how overly salty or bland it was. Because he say he thanks me for my effort, he was very sweet about it, but eventually, he just decided to take over cooking.

As much as I had a horrible mom, but as a woman to her husband. She was breadwinner, as well as the cook. She loved to cook for my dad, and it would be always as good as dining in the finest restaurants in Singapore. She doesn't cook anything out of a can. She could easily be a Michelin star chef. Breakfast, she can make fresh danish pastries or croissants for him, basically, anything you want, she can produce and makes it really good, on top of running her own business and bringing in the dough. A typical dinner would have steam fish, crabs, prawns, soup, chicken, like a whole smorgasbord of food. Each top restaurant quality recipes. I think my dad completely under appreciates her throughout her life. Because very few woman will be so dedicated in making all his meals, fit for a King. Especially if she's working full time and running her own business.

And she will only do it for my dad. IF dad is not around, and it's just us kids. She'd never cook for us ever! We get instant noodles or get take away food. I think she was just the craziest woman who every thing she does is to maintain an image infront of my dad, because her act stops whenever he is not around. If I go home today, every morning, there would be something baking in the oven, some fresh cake or whatever, all awaiting for my dad to sit at the table and be served. I think she finds alot of joy cooking for her man.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/2/2016 1:54:00 AM   
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Don't want to pay for the date, don't *invite* the other person to join you.


Don't many to most women wait for the guy to make that move? So women who go by that rule (who invites pays) while not being willing to do the asking out, that is out right scamming! It's pretty much trying to trick the man into paying. Women who have this mentally should never be taken seriously when they complain about an inequality where women are on the receiving end of.

That said, why should the person who is DOING THE WORK get penalised for it? The one who is being asked out isn't doing any work. Shouldn't the person who is doing the work get rewarded instead of penalised?

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is foul, loud-mouthed, ignorant, opinionated, obnoxious, grossly obese

whose astronomical sense of entitlement is matched only by their ego


That reminds me so much of feminists.

Female feminists in the west would be the most self entitled people on the planet. The male feminists are just pathetic suck ups.

Men don't owe you fannyfartzis anything. If it wasn't for our hard labouring bodies, you would still be in straw huts. From male hard labour, you are provided a roof over your head, food, water, power, internet. Yet, men still owe women something? Roars with laughter.

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So I wonder how many feminists have knocked you back? Just about every one you have ever met is my guess


I would be knocking them back first. As soon as I find out a woman is a feminist, RED FLAG!

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Feminists call themselves that because they're into the ideas of freedom and equality.


Stop making me laugh! As I have explained to you, a starting point to equality would be treating men and women the same. Having a whopper empathy gap isn't treating the genders the same. It's treating one gender better than the other. That's exactly what feminists do. If you call that "equality", you're a god damn moron.

Feminists really need to look up what equality actually entails.

The only thing feminists are good for in my opinion is a bukkake session. I don't mean me being involved. I would like to watch and laugh though.

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I believed in equal rights.

[My bolds]

So you're a feminist, then. Careful, now ....


Stop bullshiting us, peon, you feminazi titty sucker. The concept of equality was around a long time before the concept of feminism. Therefore, feminism doesn't own the concept of equality.

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I'm a feminist because when I'm ill, doctors haven't tested meds on women and it's harder to cure me.


Last time I checked, in all western nations, there is more government health funding for women compared to men.

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I'm a feminist because I went to school before Title 9, and we had no sports.


What the fuck has this got to do with feminism?


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I'm a feminist because when I applied to Harvard, they had a small quota of females and had filled that so even though I was better than many of the boys who had applied, I had no chance.


Last time I checked, in all western nations, women by far outnumber men in universities. There are special quotas for women in male dominated fields but no such help for men in female dominated fields. Therefore, you feminist shitbags are privileged.

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I'm a feminist because I wanted more for my daughter. I didn't want her to have to offer sex in order to get a job.


Last time I checked, it's very rare for this to happen. Treating a woman this way is socially forbidden and of course its against the law. Ya delusional fruitcake.

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I wanted her to be treated for a formerly fatal illness, and know that the dosage was correct, that there were not unforeseen side effects for girls.


How is this the fault of men/patriarchy? Do you feminists even blame your unwanted farts on men/patriarchy?

Feminists blame men for fucking everything.

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I don't like men who think buying me a drink entitles them to sex.


Fine, don't feel entitled to a free meal just because of your gender and this wouldn't happen to begin with.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/2/2016 2:20:24 AM   
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So you're a feminist, then. Careful, now ....


Stop bullshiting us, peon, you feminazi titty sucker. The concept of equality was around a long time before the concept of feminism. Therefore, feminism doesn't own the concept of equality.


What has that got to do with it, you gibbering bosses' lickspittle? Of course the concept of equality predates feminism. Feminism sprang into existence in part in order to *apply* that concept.



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I'm a feminist because I went to school before Title 9, and we had no sports.


What the fuck has this got to do with feminism?


Given your oft-stated belief that feminism is to be defined as 'what feminists do' you're not in a position to argue with anybody who says she's a feminist and whatever reason she gives for it. You'll just have to put up with it.





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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/2/2016 4:38:27 AM   
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Don't want to pay for the date, don't *invite* the other person to join you.


Don't many to most women wait for the guy to make that move? So women who go by that rule (who invites pays) while not being willing to do the askin...


Technically, if you make the invitation you assume the costs. Call your friends and they tell you are having a BBQ even, and then say it is five bucks a head. Actually I went to some of those, they had like three kegs. At what bar could you drink for like five hours on five bucks ?

What if she calls you ? Really. Shoe is on the other foot. I would say I don't have the money to go out, now what ?

See, y'alls problem is you dial the phone too much. QUIT IT. Let their fingers do the walking. The steely Dan will take care of the orgasm, they want a body up next to them. Buy them no clothes, pay no cellphone bills or anything. Don't call them honey or anything like that.

I know this, the only thing I can figure is that some Women see all these Gentlemenly ways as a farce. Calling them sugar pie honey bunch, or baby. She is not a baby.

Call her by her name. (or "Hey you" LOL).

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/2/2016 6:15:16 AM   
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Call your friends and they tell you are having a BBQ even, and then say it is five bucks a head.

Interesting. Usually when we hold a bbq, we don't charge our friends for it. Because it's like inviting our friends to our home for dinner. We are host, they are guests. Now the friend may arrive with alcohol instead. But I'd still supply alcohol.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/2/2016 6:36:12 AM   
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Men don't owe you fannyfartzis anything. If it wasn't for our hard labouring bodies, you would still be in straw huts. From male hard labour, you are provided a roof over your head, food, water, power, internet. Yet, men still owe women something? Roars with laughter.


Nobody forces men to provide for women, except that men have been trapped by the Abrahamic paternalism that we have socially accepted through the ages. Why? Because it allowed men to treat women and children as agrarian property. The irony that eludes you is that you carp and bitch at the 'feminist' social changes of the last forty years that can set men free. But, you seem content to be a drone who thinks he is king. Quite a delusion.

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RE: Feminists want equality, except when paying for dates - 8/2/2016 8:57:35 AM   
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Well most feminists are either fat or ugly or both.


Not at all my experience.
Peon, you've assembled such a stunning quantity of delusional crap that I probably can't be bothered cleaning it all up, but I'll address the most egregious nonsense.

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Feminists call themselves that because they're into the ideas of freedom and equality.
No. They don't. Most women who call themselves feminists do so because they have a chip on their shoulder and - like all losers in life - desperately need a conspiracy theory to explain their lack of success. Feminism provides them with a lazy answer to their lack of happiness and promises them an easier road in life if only they sign up to fight the good fight.

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So they tend to be into such things as the equal freedom to enjoy themselves in bed. Feminists tend to be 'goers', basically. They're absolutely going to have damned good orgasm (or more) if they can get it. Why would I want a woman who's any different?
First of all, if you were actually paying attention instead of regurgitating the dogma that's been brainwashed into you, you'd know that not only is sex-positive feminism decidedly out of vogue, but there's an ongoing backlash against feminism's insistence on telling women how they should feel about sex, marriage and men - just to name a few.

What's interesting is to watch you exemplify this. You are feminism's fascism in action. A man telling feminists that they must enjoy sex his way otherwise they're not good feminists. I'm pretty sure some of the lesbian feminists would happily eviscerate you for such arrogance, but I digress...

You are, of course, talking utter bilge. Feminists are generally so uptight about the gender war that they're unable to relax. Of course, subspace is subspace so once they trance, they stop thinking anyway, but for that to happen, they have to be lucky enough to run into a dominant man.

Conversely women who are comfortable with gender difference don't have a chorus of voices in their head muttering about patriarchy, male dominance and the gender wage gap.

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I hear that a woman's an ardent feminist and I think: 'Great - she'll be a bouncer in bed!'. That's basically it, for me. Just empirical evidence, I'm saying. I don't do high theory when it comes to picking my bonking partners.
In your case, isn't that more a case of "great, she'll peg me until I bleed"?

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On the other hand non-feminists or anti-feminists, in my experience, have tended to be pillow-biters. That is: they've crushed down their primitive desires in the sack department, in order to be what they consider to be 'ladylike', and merely 'put up with' what their man wants to do *to* them (sex being 'what a man actively does to a passively-receiving woman', basically).
Peon "pillow-biter" is a euphemism for a homosexual, so lord knows what the FUCK you're talking about - you seem to be getting your genders confused.

Secondly, the idea that women require feminism to experience good sex is just so hysterically naive, I can't help but feel sorry for you. You clearly have very little experience of the world and what experience you do have is clearly the product of a very sheltered existence.

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Feminists have almost never been fat or ugly, in my experience. Why would they be?
Because women without sexual power are attracted to conspiracy theories to explain that lack of power.

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They've worked it out that they want good sex and have the right to it;
So you think women who aren't feminists haven't "worked out" that they want to enjoy sex. That throughout the history of the world, all those billions of women have suffered through bad sex because feminism wasn't here to enlighten them? I'm sorry Peon, I really can't take you seriously any more - your reasoning is so child-like, it's clear the sycophancy component of your personality is turned way up to 11 and is just vomiting out nonsense.

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further, this will only happen if they can clinch a man that turns them on,
No, they can masturbate or they can have sex with women. Really Peon, your ignorance is appalling - how dare you suggest that women need men in order to enjoy themselves!

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and that in turn will only happen if they look good enough for the sort of men that they'll enjoy in bed.
Oh, I see. So what you're saying is that feminists go to the gym and eat right for MEN. That all of their effort in this regard goes into pleasing men.

Do I really need to point out the hysterical irony of this comment? I'm pretty sure the sisterhood will lynch you for daring to suggest such a thing. *whispers* I don't know if you've noticed Peon, but "beautiful at any size" is now one of the predominant themes of inter-sectional feminism and what you've just done is called "fat shaming" by suggesting that only thin women are entitled to attractive partners.

Wow, this feminism thing is really a minefield, isn't it Peon? Apparently it's impossible for even an avowed male feminist like yourself to tip-toe through the minefield without blowing himself up. Something you've managed to do multiple times.

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The gym-going women I've met and got to know have been keen feminists - for the past fifteen years, without exception.
Well that's a really weird sample set considering only 7% of Britons identify as feminists. It seems more likely that you've just done your usual trick of claiming anyone who believes in equality is a "keen feminist". I'm afraid I have to take that claim with a grain of salt.

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You and I clearly *do not* live in the same world when it comes to women and sex. Not even as regards femsubs (quite a few of whom I've gone to bed with)
Peon, let me explain something to you. How hot sex between two people happens to be is a function of multiple factors, the most significant of which is sexual polarity.

Barring the gay community (which has similar but significantly different dynamics), sexual polarity explains why tall men and up with short women, why hyper-masculine men end up with hyper-feminine women and why androgynous couples rarely have sex and usually end up as friends. The sexual polarity between you and a female submissive is going to be decidedly lacking and consequently, the sex ain't gonna be all that good.

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... because, for the life of me, I cannot see how a femsub who's worthy of getting into the sack can be any fun at all unless she's worked it out that she *wants* to be dominated
You're an idiot. Women don't need to "work out" that they want to be dominated - their entire physiology is wired for it and it's only their mind that can get in the way. Even then, a fist in their hair and/or a hand on their throat will often cause their physiology to take over and they'll stop worrying about it.

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- which absolutely necessitates, prior to that, that what she wants is crucial in the grander scheme of things - something that would be inconceivable to a non-feminist.
So you think women who aren't feminists have no self-determination and need feminism to give them permission to enjoy themselves? That's so phenomenally stupid, I'm beginning to wonder if you're a 12 year old boy. You appear to have almost no experience with actual women.

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You may drip as much scorn as you like on the notion, A, but I honestly can't see how a femsub can enjoy being a femsub without first having utterly absorbed some fundamental feminist principles.
That's because you don't understand women, you don't understand what feminism is and you're an unthinking member of a religious cult, not a reasoning, considered human being capable of rational thought.

Honestly Peon, every time you trot out one of these dogmatic little exercises in delusion, you really do more to demonstrate your own lack of capability than I ever could by debating you. You seriously do suffer from Trump levels of self-delusion.


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