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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/10/2016 6:29:10 AM

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Cool Man a sixties senior citizen dude harking on about all our yesterdays and ancient history.

Fascinating..
You joined today.. welcome to the forums.
Out of all 199887 topics on a BDSM board, you decide your first post is to be an ageist.
Well done..
I cant wait for more of your input

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/10/2016 7:04:35 AM

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Cool Man a sixties senior citizen dude harking on about all our yesterdays and ancient history.

Fascinating..
You joined today.. welcome to the forums.
Out of all 199887 topics on a BDSM board, you decide your first post is to be an ageist.
Well done..
I cant wait for more of your input

Lucy, dont you know that all of us old geezers are supposed to find a rock to die under when we hit 50?

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 3:16:26 AM

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Did someone say something about the swinging Dixies?

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 5:59:01 AM

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I was born in the early 70's, and a true Goth with a Metal/Punk leaning, but I then have very eclectic tastes outside of that which surprise the people around me. I could have several top 10 lists depending on genre, but would find it difficult to do an all time greatest top 10.

Now one of my very favourite tunes it Kites by The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSqx9kDQ84 But I also knew that this had been done before by Simon Dupree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS2KmEecTo although I have no idea how I knew this. I love both versions equally.

Lots of the music I love comes from the sixties

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 9:10:50 AM

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Nice work on picking an Arthur Brown song other than Fire. You know he was in Hawkwind for a while, right?

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 9:55:45 AM

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This is a fast reply.

As a musician, I think there is value in all music. That said, there is a distinct difference between well composed music and "cookie-cutter" music. While I am a fan of most genres of music, my tastes tend toward progressive rock which had its advent in the mid-60's.

Bob Seger said it best when he declared, "Today's music aint got the same soul..." and I tend to agree with him. While the songwriters of today may have passion for their compositions, they cannot escape the fact that they are now producing music for a very target audience and therefore they all tend to sound the same. The music of the 50's, 60's, 70's, and to a degree the 80's was a mixture of pandering to a target audience and creative exploration. I said to someone last week that the music industry will never see a time like the 60's again where musicians pushed the known boundaries of what was considered "acceptable form" for music. There were literally pioneers in their craft; one Jimi Hendrix comes to mind... among a lot of others. These artists were risk takers, stepping into a new frontier... say that about the pop artists today and you will likely be laughed out of the room. Nothing of what they do is cutting edge, not technically or compositionally.

There is an Internet meme that goes around from time to time comparing the lyrics of a Frank Sinatra song to a Niki Minaj song... and then ends with "Music. What the fuck happened?" No clearer illustration is needed in my mind to make my point. There is little thought put into pop music, it is designed to make money from a generation that... and I choose my words and meaning carefully... a generation that wouldn't know good music if it hit them in the face. To them, they are happy with what they listen to and that is fine with me. I was brought up on classical music with a small dabbling in 50's rock, so it should be no surprise that I am that critical of the music of today. Not many pop artists today could be called innovators, they aren't pushing the envelope, they are playing it safe. I am not condemning that, I am merely stating it as my opinion, as there is something to be said about continuing to do what works.

I will state it again, I accept all forms of music, I just don't have to listen to all of them.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 1:17:34 PM

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Nice work on picking an Arthur Brown song other than Fire. You know he was in Hawkwind for a while, right?

Well he featured with them, but wasn't actually a part of them. He also performed on some of the band members solo stuff too.

This is also another that I love by him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2XpTJWhtgY

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 1:19:14 PM

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Right. I thought he was a member as he's on a couple of albums.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 1:26:24 PM

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Not really, brought in more to perform I think, and did a a few of the different tours on and off. I'm not a major Hawkwind fan though, I know them more through association because of course I'm a Lemmy fan, and they kinda go hand-in-hand.

Motorhead, now there's a noise to beat

I'm with Gauge though on the modern stuff. I couldn't even tell you who most people are. I would only pick out certain things playing because if I happened to be in a club I could dance to it. Mostly though it's tosh.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/11/2016 2:37:48 PM

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I've always thought Hawkwind are a very underrated band, myself. Apart from the Lemmy thing (and you'd be surprised how much of the first Motorhead album he did with them first), they seem to have been a big influence on the more interesting side of ambient house, the shoegazers and the crusties: most '70s bands can't even claim one, but they managed all three.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/12/2016 4:26:16 AM

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My ex playmate is a massive fan, and has been since from way back. I have another friend that is a big fan too, but I think most people only know of them when they hear key tracks, which is how I was until I listened to them more with the Playmate. Possibly as well because they haven't been as commercial as Motorhead, AC/DC, and the likes.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/12/2016 4:54:08 AM

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I take it by "key tracks" you mean Silver Machine? You'd sometimes think that one was the only single they ever did. (Clearly Richard OBrien likes that one a lot)

I always thought it was a shame that's the one everybody knows as they've done loads better than that. Why not Spirit of the Age or Psychedellic Warlords instead? I suppose Shot Down In The Night gets heard as well.
The new version of Sonic Attack with vocals by BRIAN BLESSED seems to have passed unnoticed, though.
(I mean seriously: a badger charity record with BRIAN BLESSED on vocals? How awesome is that? I do like the guy who left a comment saying it was a shame they couldn'tr get the Shat to do it, though...)

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/12/2016 6:48:07 AM

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Aaahhhh Silver Machine, kind of the go to I think. It's Magadeth's No more Mr Nice, ya know? Even my Mum knows that one lol

Brian Blessed, love him doing Sonic Attack, but I do wonder if all anyone else can see is Prince Vultan like I do

Another top like for me is Valium Ten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg025Dzxy7s Most of my 'likes' though are just through trawling sometimes on you-tube. The playmate would do 'I want to play you this because it's brilliant' Play a bit, skip, play a bit more, not give me chance to really hear it, and then change to another track. He'd also talk a lot about how great they were live, and I'd heard enough of them to know I'd actually fancy the experience, so when he said they were touring, and he was going I asked if I could go along, to basically be told to sod off. He did that when I wanted to see the Sister's last tour too, and then took someone else to see another of my favourite bands. Basically he's a bit of a dick like that.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/12/2016 8:44:37 AM

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That's an obscure one.
I think this one's my favourite: Spirit of the Age.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/12/2016 9:12:50 AM

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Haha, certainly a most amusing choice :-)

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/14/2016 6:00:33 PM

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Don't forget about the DJ and concert situation vs. media ownership and conglomeration, as what sent everything else downhill in the US.

Clear Channel owns it all, now. Radio, concert tickets, concert promotion, whatever else. If you want a real DJ, go to the clubs, few of which have live music anymore.

Herewith: http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/articles/02/1125148.html

When The Beatles came out with I Want to Hold Your Hand, Capitol Records finally recognized a winner, and planned release for the first or second week in January. But some DJ in DC got ahold of a Parlophone 45 in mid-December and played it often, followed by hundreds, then thousands of requests to play it some more. Capitol was compelled to move up the release date by 2-3 weeks.

Harry Chapin's first album would likely have not been noticed by anybody, except that he had an AM radio DJ friend (long before Clear Channel) who played the song Taxi on his station and called around to his buddy DJs that they should play this thing, and so enough of them did. Eight to 15 months later, we got not just a hit, but a classic.

It used to be the thinking that if you kept the audience entertained, they would endure the adds. But now the "entertainment" itself is geared towards those with lower thresholds for being 'more accessible' by whatever denominator.

Many studies have been conducted to investigate the psychology behind getting people to spill their wallets most readily, and all we're going to see or hear in the foreseeable future on the airwaves or the TV is and will be geared to that, and that only. People who watch and listen to dreck and crap, and are naturally geared towards that, are easy targets. Proven fact.

It's not necessarily that the younger folk have lost interest in what others might consider "good music,' but rather that their access to that end has been constricted.

In the old days, people wanted to blow up the government. I am trying to teach my high-tech niece that the people you want to blow up (figuratively, not literally) nowadays are Google, Clear Channel, CitiGroup, etc.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/14/2016 6:40:35 PM

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~FR~

And on another point; computer chips are not musical instruments.

But that's at least 80% of what's on the airwaves that I hear next to me at the traffic lights. What horrendous sonic torture to anyone not being born half deaf.

Computer chip 'percussion' and auto-tune 'singing' is what's being foisted upon us now, without relent.

My ears can't handle that sort of sonic fingernail/chalkboard onslaught from the outset, so pardon me for not being able to get to such apparently lesser considerations in the matter as musical merit.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/14/2016 10:57:43 PM

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In my past life, I operated the soundboard as part of making a living.

As per performance, I look at things like this in awe; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5VSO8DcoS0

An RCA 44C microphone, a photofilm recording of the sound.

Those guys were amazing. Not to mention the performers, in spite of all the producers and directors' efforts to ruin it. Ruby Keeler should have been just left on her own in that number.

Les Miserable, Miss Saigon, Guys and Dolls, Rent, etc. were great shows, if presented well. But I never had an inclination towards musical theater before I had to do it for a living.

"Matrimony is baloney ...." It was hard for me to do my job after that introduction of the chorus.

Don't ask me how or why, but the performers floored me with this one; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMdEqB-TB8g

And they did this in the pit, too! The chorus was the greatest. I was glad I had nothing to do with the bus and truck, just a deck carpenter for that show. Shoving that 'train' on and off stage was the best fun.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/15/2016 5:13:47 AM

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And on another point; computer chips are not musical instruments.

But that's at least 80% of what's on the airwaves that I hear next to me at the traffic lights. What horrendous sonic torture to anyone not being born half deaf.

Computer chip 'percussion' and auto-tune 'singing' is what's being foisted upon us now, without relent.

My ears can't handle that sort of sonic fingernail/chalkboard onslaught from the outset, so pardon me for not being able to get to such apparently lesser considerations in the matter as musical merit.

Because, of course, Kraftwerk, The White Noise, Weather Report, Gary Numan, Magazine, Laurie Anderson, Front 242, Isao Tomita, Wendy Carlos, Edgar Winter, The Who, Nine Inch Nails, Pink Floyd, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Alice Cooper, Cher, Donna Summer, John Carpenter, The Cure, George Clinton, Hawkwind, and anybody else who's ever used an synthesiser or an electronically treated vocal on a record or on stage have only ever recoded worthless shit?
(Seriously, don't talk such bollocks.)

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/15/2016 7:53:53 AM

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And on another point; computer chips are not musical instruments.

But that's at least 80% of what's on the airwaves that I hear next to me at the traffic lights. What horrendous sonic torture to anyone not being born half deaf.

Computer chip 'percussion' and auto-tune 'singing' is what's being foisted upon us now, without relent.

My ears can't handle that sort of sonic fingernail/chalkboard onslaught from the outset, so pardon me for not being able to get to such apparently lesser considerations in the matter as musical merit.

Because, of course, Kraftwerk, The White Noise, Weather Report, Gary Numan, Magazine, Laurie Anderson, Front 242, Isao Tomita, Wendy Carlos, Edgar Winter, The Who, Nine Inch Nails, Pink Floyd, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Alice Cooper, Cher, Donna Summer, John Carpenter, The Cure, George Clinton, Hawkwind, and anybody else who's ever used an synthesiser or an electronically treated vocal on a record or on stage have only ever recoded worthless shit?
(Seriously, don't talk such bollocks.)

This must hold all sorts of hate for Edwird then, but aside from the Theremin, which is just such a cool use on the track, it's also from one of my favourite films ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGogksGPjNg

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