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We sloughed off George III and his army, that's it. Congratulations to us.
We get a nice holiday out of it.
OH! The flippancy!
Yes of course, the US actually got much more out of it than a 'nice holiday.'
We attracted a good many from the scientific and cultural communities abroad, and then grew a good many of our own in that regard.
Such is the pursuit of evolution.
Actually I have discovered that recently. (years but kinda recently) When I was a kid I had this science encyclopedia I read practically cover to cover, but I skipped over the bios of inventors etc. because I wasn't interested in that.
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However, I think Germany might have had tight laws about it because of a rumor among the oldtimers in the machining.engineering field. That the diesel engine was actually invented here by White Motors and Rudolf Diesel hopped on over to Germany to beat them to the patent. It establishes prior art. Here, he could not get a patent in his name because the invention was done on company time.
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But it was going on in alot of places, as Farnsworth invented TV here, Baird did about the same thing in England. As Ransom Eli Olds figured out what to do with the waste product gasoline, some people in Europe were doing the same thing. Before them, gasoline was considered a waste product. They used it as a defoliant and when they really meant business lit it. They had oil lights but the fuel was more like diesel fuel or, well, lamp oil which burns more slowly and is less volatile. People did not want gasoline in the house because of the smell.
You got a few things wrong. Completely. And your wannnabe science encyclopedia obviously ignored all facts not palatable to US readers ... obviously ignored a lot of facts ...
A few examples, your examples:
1) The Diesel engine was patented by Diesel, and invented. The first one still exists, built in 1892, patented in 1897. Whereas your "White Co." was founded three years after that ...
There was a patent dispute with Akroyd Stuart (UK) because his engine also has no sparkling plug. It works at a much lower pressure though.
2) The first one to use gasoline for automobile use was (guess) the one who invented the automobile, Carl Benz - or rather his wife Bertha when she was the first to travel by it from Mannheim to Pforzheim (both not in the USA) in 1888. Olds built his first petrol-engine car in 1898, and started with steam engines a few years before.
(the inventor of the 4-stroke petrol-engine in case you wonder: Nicolaus Otto ...)
3) Television is a combination of many inventions:
Just a few:
electronic transfer of images by line-by-line detection: Paul Nipkow
kathode ray tube and screen: Ferdinand von Braun and Jonathan Zenneck
electronic image recording: Vladimir Svorykin
the term "television": Konstantin Perski
(none of them american ...)
I 'd recommend losing that wannabe encyclopedia again - right in the bin.
Maybe my notions about who invented what were wrong but thy did not come from that encyclopedia. That shit was taught in the schools.
What I wanted to point out is that even though the average lifespan has increased, medical technology is only responsible for part of it. And in fact I think quality of life in old age has actually gone down. they are getting sick and taking te pills a day. These old geezers back then might have never seen a doctor in their life. Delivered by a midwife on the kitchen table.
The point about the inventions was about it was happening all over the world, and some inventors came to the US and I suspect to make more money was the reason. Just what does the "land of opportunity" really mean ?
But sorry, the things I said about cars and TVs were not from there. I am fully aware that for example, TV was based on previous inventions, as are most. Without radio it would not have really caught on. The one thing the US can claim about that is the first B&W compatible color TV system. When other countries developed their systems (analog) most were superior, except like in Russia and probably other Soviet bloc countries. But under the Soviets, most of them were seriously unmotivated. Like "they pretend to pay us so we pretend to work". That was their downfall.
But people used to live just as long and probably better as long as they didn't die during birth or in the first few years from a then incurable disease or went to fight in a war at 15 years old.
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