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Vince history is to learn from... not to be tied to with a ball and chain. I am responsible for my actions today not for my great great grandfathers actions in the past. There is a course to follow for the African Americans still suffering from past racism... Education... not police cameras.

Butch

I guess you gotta walk in their shoes, Butch.

Black Americans killed by police twice as likely to be unarmed as white people

Because they can't buy a gun because they got a criminal record. So they work out and get tough, and the cops know it. And I know it. I study electronics and physics and they pump iron. Therefore I pump lead.

I am not justifying all this but facts are facts. Anyone with the balls to invade my space is subject to execution, no matter the color. Cops deal with people all the time and probably have a better idea what to expect. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong.

They do need to stop shooting people though, seems they need better physical training. Every time you hear of cops beating someone up it is the suspect is on the ground, handcuffed behind the back and five cops are kicking him. I want to see these supposedly physically train officer in a hand to hand combat with one tough motherfucker who can fight back. I know someone who beat the shit out of a cop and took his gun. This guy is only 5'3" or so and never had any physical or martial arts training.

I also want to know why some disgruntled Muslim can walk into a military base and kill a bunch of our troops without getting his head blown of right then and there.

The government is not as tough as they want you to think.

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Klansmen were most often powerless people who resorted to the scapegoating of blacks to feel like they were somebody. The powerless need racism more than the powerful.

Very astute. Good point.

They were hanging judges and later Blacks. That does not sound powerless to me.

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OK folks now that the definition of racism has been brought up, first of all the first guy I ever hired in business was Black. I used the Nword in front of him but NEVER called him that. He called me a honky once in a while. We got along and partied after work sometimes. But he did a decent job.

I do not want to fuck Black, Oriental, Muslim/Arabic type, or Hispanic Women.

Is that racist ?

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"Rowanda
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How about Zimbabwe ? When White Man gave away rights the country turned from being the bread basket of Africa to a basket case.

And there ain't no "O" in there.

They used to have jobs and all that, and food, now they got nothing. I suppose the liberals are happy now and want to send your tax dollars to help them. To help them eat and fuck and have twelve kids, instead of how it used to be.

South Africa was a slightly different story with the diamonds and all. But still, does a South African get a check for the natural resources of his country ? I doubt it.

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Fair go though, the majority of the whites in Zim fought to keep the status quo. It was the Brit government that betrayed them and left them to the mercy of the *freedom fighters*. Now it is mainly blacks killing blacks there, because the majority of the whites have got out of the place and I reckon most of those came to Australia *smile*. The whites that are left there are finding it pretty tough.................but there again, so are a lot of the blacks.

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We have neighbours behind us and next door to us Bama. We often go to each others places for 'Brawes' (Barbecues) and they tell us about how it was and what it's like now ( they still have friends out there). One family was sponsoring a black family who were long term friends of their, to come here as immigrants. That family just vanished and nobody can find hide nor hair of them. It's like Hitlers 'Nacht un Nebel' decree. People just vanish without trace and it really doesn't pay to go looking for them or ask too many questions about them. Des, one of the neighbours, went over to look for them. He took a bad beating in a back alley one night and was declared persona non grata when he reported it the next day.

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There and South Africa were the only places I know of where mercenaries offered to fight for no wages unless they won, just their subsistence. And the men that went there were experienced military men, ( including some of your countrymen who mysteriously became Canadians for the duration of their stay*smile*). And before anybody asks, I am what people on here call a 'leftie', although the term really has little meaning. Basically, I am me and I walk my own patrol as I have done for many years.

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So, basically, the author is saying these are not riots; they are mini revolutions against systemic inequality and brutality. The author also says most white Americans are not prepared to hear it that way,

Yes, everyone has heard the narrative. But I think that the vast majority of Americans view rioting, looting, arson and the murder of police officers as criminal lawlessness plain and simple, which means that these tactics are not likely to engender sympathy or further the gains we have made toward improving race relations in America.

K.

I absolutely agree they will not gain much sympathy. However, i doubt they are planned tactics but eruptions of rage from frustration and a long simmering anger.

I had growing hope for what i saw happening among the millennial generation where there seemed to be a growing social integration. But now I see reversal of public school integration and other social inequalities where blacks are becoming more isolated, on college campuses for instance and in neighborhoods and even prisons where the fastest growing segment of incarcerated Americans are women, mostly women of color, and 80% of them mothers. Up from 8000 in 1970 to 110,000 in 2014. Mostly poor and many with histories of trauma.

In any case, getting back to your original observation about segments of the black population. I did not perceive a lot of hatred or anger in my experience, just occasional scowling.

But my optimism for the future has taken a downturn.

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F If it was open armed rebellion shouldn't the army have been sent in to put it down.

There were military tanks or personnel carriers on Springfield Avenue in Newark.

Tanks in Newark is not putting down a revolt in Baltimore, that's not even the same state.

BTW what were they doing, is there a NG armory on Springfield Avenue in Newark. I guess part of the military plan to put down the rebellion was to give them room to destroy.

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F If it was open armed rebellion shouldn't the army have been sent in to put it down.

There were military tanks or personnel carriers on Springfield Avenue in Newark.

Tanks in Newark is not putting down a revolt in Baltimore, that's not even the same state.

BTW what were they doing, is there a NG armory on Springfield Avenue in Newark. I guess part of the military plan to put down the rebellion was to give them room to destroy.

Newark erupted in the 1960s . . . snipers allegedly.

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F If it was open armed rebellion shouldn't the army have been sent in to put it down.

There were military tanks or personnel carriers on Springfield Avenue in Newark.

Tanks in Newark is not putting down a revolt in Baltimore, that's not even the same state.

BTW what were they doing, is there a NG armory on Springfield Avenue in Newark. I guess part of the military plan to put down the rebellion was to give them room to destroy.

Newark erupted in the 1960s . . . snipers allegedly.

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Vince we all have the same feet... that was and is a bullshit argument... Racism can be very easily quantified. If they can show racism I am all for stamping it out.

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You're missing the point. Which is why VML can get away with the BS he's spreading. You argue his fake little lies. My he little leftists sit smoking dope in groups of two or three and come up with these platitudes. You can't argue his lines, they're leftist fakes. We've let his type have the argument too long without calling BS. Well, you know what, he's a racist BS artist.