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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 4:13:02 PM   
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You have been holding Chicago up as an example, and it is, it is a perfect example of what happens when you disarm the innocents, DC is an even better example.
Over the last two years, France has lost far more people in mass killings than the US.

So now you are saying decent law-abiding people in Chicago and DC were disarmed?
Got a cite for that?

And I don't think France has lost more people in mass killings (not terrorism events) than the US.
You'll need to provide a decent reputable cite for that opinion for me to believe that.


Lets see Chicago and DC both banned most firearms and made the ownership of the rest almost impossible, have you never heard of Heller?
If you don't even know that much you should not even be in this conversation.
They didn't even allow gun stores in either city until Heller.
It is still virtually impossible to get a permit to own in either, in DC the firearm has to be of an approved color.

Your definition of redneck presumes (wrongly in your case) that the reader knows how a redneck thinks.

It wasn't just Heller, that was only for...as the liberals claimed, federal territories. MacDonald was specific to Chicago and other non federal jurisdictions. Of course this (cough cough) person doesn't have a clue about that which you are talking or else he wouldn't have stated what he did. It just shows ignints.

I'm betting he's googling very fast now so he can sound all smarty pants about it in some snide come back. Hehe.

I am betting that he is ignoring it, going to say I haven't given what he considers a reputable cite, or pretending it didn't happen.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 4:20:14 PM   
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You have been holding Chicago up as an example, and it is, it is a perfect example of what happens when you disarm the innocents, DC is an even better example.
Over the last two years, France has lost far more people in mass killings than the US.

So now you are saying decent law-abiding people in Chicago and DC were disarmed?
Got a cite for that?

And I don't think France has lost more people in mass killings (not terrorism events) than the US.
You'll need to provide a decent reputable cite for that opinion for me to believe that.


Lets see Chicago and DC both banned most firearms and made the ownership of the rest almost impossible, have you never heard of Heller?
If you don't even know that much you should not even be in this conversation.
They didn't even allow gun stores in either city until Heller.
It is still virtually impossible to get a permit to own in either, in DC the firearm has to be of an approved color.

Your definition of redneck presumes (wrongly in your case) that the reader knows how a redneck thinks.

It wasn't just Heller, that was only for...as the liberals claimed, federal territories. MacDonald was specific to Chicago and other non federal jurisdictions. Of course this (cough cough) person doesn't have a clue about that which you are talking or else he wouldn't have stated what he did. It just shows ignints.

I'm betting he's googling very fast now so he can sound all smarty pants about it in some snide come back. Hehe.

I am betting that he is ignoring it, going to say I haven't given what he considers a reputable cite, or pretending it didn't happen.

Six of one, half a dozen of another. He's probably googled and found out how full of shit he was. But, because he never lets facts get in the way of his prejudice, he'll be back another day.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 4:43:40 PM   
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Good deflection. But no cigar.

I'm not paranoid.
I'm safe.
My wife is safe.
My kids are safe.
My friends are safe.

We don't need guns for protection coz we don't have rednecks going round killing people or commiting suicide by shooting themselves.
Our schools are schools rather than improvised prisons.
Our cops aren't usually armed either - it's just not needed most of the time.
We (in general) aren't so paranoid to think we actually need protection.
We don't need gun free zones - the whole godamned country is a gun free zone.

Yet you guys seem to think more guns is preferable.
The stats prove otherwise.
When you lot are awake enough to smell the coffee - I'll make you a fresh pot.



What you call coffee is Koolaid. When you have a gun, nobody knows you have it. They only find out when you shoot somebody.

I bet there are more guns around you than you think it is just that they are not owned by crazoids or criminal types. You're right about the schools. But if you go to school in Chicago (I think where Obama went but not sure) even if you graduate your two options for a career are the military or a dope dealer. Now actually in this country, being a dope dealer is more honorable than the military. A dope dealer sells people things they want and makes a reasonable profit on it. The military makes it possible for the oil (and other) companies and banks to steal the wealth of other nations.

One of these days maybe you will have a six foot ten n------ raping your ten year old daughter, or niece, or cousin or something. What are you going to do ? I'd put a bullet in the back of the animal's head. What are you going to do ? "Sorry honey but we can't trust ourselves enough to own killing machines because we might go crazy and kill someone over stupid shit". See you don't get the fact that the majority of gun owners here are sane, normal people who believe they have the right to have the ultimate in self preservation. They seem to have bred that self preservation instinct out of you, and that is a shame. And you have an army ? So you can shoot for the government but not for yourself. Fuck you. And you are happy with that ? Fucking nuts.

And you are trying to sell that shit to growed Men who have the maturity to not kill when they have the ability, even when someone pisses us off ? I know you read about road rage and there have been times I wanted to go down the highway with the windows rolled down and just whack all the stupid motherfuckers who never should have gotten a license or a car. But the fact is I didn't.

The people who shoot people for the most part, if they didn't have a gun would have hacked them up with a knife or used a hammer or something to their head. An ex-roomie of mine did 20 years for maiming a guy with a knife so bad that the judge said right out "You would have been better off if you killed him" because now the guy is disabled for life. He got 20 years, but for murder here the average is more like 13 years. Yup, that's justice, stick it in him one more time and save seven years of your life.

Now if that guy, the homeowner, had a gun in his hand and knew how to use it, there would be no issue. I would have never met the guy. But he respected me, of course he saw my SKS which looked like an AK-47 but I could not find a match for the logo on it to find out where it was manufactured.

I traded it off for a couple of other pieces and then the guy who has it called me and said "Know why you couldn't figure out who built that ? Because it is not an AK it is an SKS". But god damn it looked identical.

Anyway, we are barbarians for having guns right ? We are uncivilized right ? Well I got one thing to say. One person with a gun can mow down a ton of you people and there isn't a fucking thing you can do about it because you are so deathly afraid of guns you outlawed them. What's more, half of you fucking sheep probably wouldn't even have them if they were legal.

That can only be the result of brainwashing or some sort of psychological conditioning. Well I will not be conditioned. Tough shit. got it ?

You be in your world I be in mine.

T^T

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 4:56:01 PM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


Fuck you, you are so stooooopid that you do not understand the concept of having it and not needing it rather than needing it and not having it. Somehow they bred that logic out of you.

And your definition of a redneck is as about far off as it gets. What's more, rednecks drive around with shotguns in their pickup trucks and they are not the ones shooting people.

You just got painted with the same brush as others you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and you don't know how it is here but you profess to know what is best for us.

The word asshole simply does not cover it.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 4:57:29 PM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


And who the fuck are you to say what the definition of words are ? Webster ?

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 5:17:15 PM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


Fuck you, you are so stooooopid that you do not understand the concept of having it and not needing it rather than needing it and not having it. Somehow they bred that logic out of you.

And your definition of a redneck is as about far off as it gets. What's more, rednecks drive around with shotguns in their pickup trucks and they are not the ones shooting people.

You just got painted with the same brush as others you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and you don't know how it is here but you profess to know what is best for us.

The word asshole simply does not cover it.

T^T

I did read about a redneck involved in a shooting.
He was driving by a high school and saw a nut case shooting at people on the parking lot. He stopped and got out, persuading the shooter to stop.
It seems the shooter saw the logic in the argument that a 12 ga trumps a 9mm.


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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 5:19:44 PM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


And who the fuck are you to say what the definition of words are ? Webster ?

T^T

Termy, I'm a redneck. Every time some prissy "feminist" tells me I can't say a word because it's offensive to him/her, I tell them my culture is redneck and in my culture that word means "such and such." Then I ask them if they are being prejudice to my culture because if they are I need them to stop or I'll report them. It's so funny, it always confuses them. But, I see beyond my nose and find most rednecks do as well. I do imagine that a lot of rednecks may fuck with some prissy, obnoxious Brit that has a stick up his ass and who is only staying for eight months in NC and wants to tell them all how to behave. I'd imagine that sort of funin may have occurred. And, a girly Brit with a stick up his ass that really couldn't understand anything in the culture in which he found himself immersed would probably think everyone was a cretin except himself.

Obama didn't go to school in Chicago and he certainly didn't let his girls go to local schools while he was running his scams as a community organizer there.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 5:22:36 PM   
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I read about a Redneck named McVeigh, a Redneck named Whitman, a Redneck named Johnson, a Redneck named Mateen, they were not doing your lying asswipe pretend. They were involved.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 6:59:48 PM   
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I read about a Redneck named McVeigh, a Redneck named Whitman, a Redneck named Johnson, a Redneck named Mateen, they were not doing your lying asswipe pretend. They were involved.

McVeigh was from Indiana. That's not a redneck state. Just like the rest of your bilge, you got nothing but bluster. You really should try using facts instead of bluff. I've never seen one of your citations actually reference anything you've said.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 7:14:21 PM   
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I read about a Redneck named McVeigh, a Redneck named Whitman, a Redneck named Johnson, a Redneck named Mateen, they were not doing your lying asswipe pretend. They were involved.

McVeigh was from Indiana. That's not a redneck state. Just like the rest of your bilge, you got nothing but bluster. You really should try using facts instead of bluff. I've never seen one of your citations actually reference anything you've said.

Although Whitman was from Tx he was not a redneck, as for Mateen, a gay Moslem redneck, i think not. Who was Johnson, LBJ?

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 7:18:53 PM   
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FR

This entire thread is just an excuse for Europeans particularly certain English persons (but by no means all) indulge in their fantasy of superiority.

It is mindless, arrogant, and insulting.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 7:19:44 PM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


Fuck you, you are so stooooopid that you do not understand the concept of having it and not needing it rather than needing it and not having it. Somehow they bred that logic out of you.

And your definition of a redneck is as about far off as it gets. What's more, rednecks drive around with shotguns in their pickup trucks and they are not the ones shooting people.

You just got painted with the same brush as others you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and you don't know how it is here but you profess to know what is best for us.

The word asshole simply does not cover it.

T^T

I did read about a redneck involved in a shooting.
He was driving by a high school and saw a nut case shooting at people on the parking lot. He stopped and got out, persuading the shooter to stop.
It seems the shooter saw the logic in the argument that a 12 ga trumps a 9mm.



IMO he should have shot first and persuaded later. There are people we simply do not need in society.

I have been so drunk and high I couldn't walk or talk, back in the old days. And I was wild too. But I have never shot anyone nor even threatened them with a gun. It is a basic thing, like breathing. These people with the phobia about guns do not know that we sane people who have them KNOW THEY ARE FUCKING DANGEROUS and it is just like if you get too fucked up to drive, leave it alone. HA.

I got all fucked up the other day at the bar and took a cab home. Now what the hell do with this cab sitting in my garage ?

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 7:33:16 PM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


And who the fuck are you to say what the definition of words are ? Webster ?

T^T

Termy, I'm a redneck. Every time some prissy "feminist" tells me I can't say a word because it's offensive to him/her, I tell them my culture is redneck and in my culture that word means "such and such." Then I ask them if they are being prejudice to my culture because if they are I need them to stop or I'll report them. It's so funny, it always confuses them. But, I see beyond my nose and find most rednecks do as well. I do imagine that a lot of rednecks may fuck with some prissy, obnoxious Brit that has a stick up his ass and who is only staying for eight months in NC and wants to tell them all how to behave. I'd imagine that sort of funin may have occurred. And, a girly Brit with a stick up his ass that really couldn't understand anything in the culture in which he found himself immersed would probably think everyone was a cretin except himself.

Obama didn't go to school in Chicago and he certainly didn't let his girls go to local schools while he was running his scams as a community organizer there.


The italicised part was a quote, not my words, so you might have that mixed up a bit. I am not quite a redneck but I like rednecks generally and yes I would put a gun rack on my pickup truck but these day it would have to be locking. Motherfuckers will steal your shit.

the only exception I take to that post is about "report them". What, you need a Mommy ? They fuck with you, fuck back. Remember, I am from Usenet and there are totally unmoderated groups there. You can say anything you want there, but so can others. I am getting well practiced in returning insults with logically derived insults. In fact I got about a half dozen on my side against a Phd in Australia, he is so liberal I can smell it 10,000 miles away.

People do not know what redneck means, in fact I am not 100% sure but I got a good idea. And very few know what "White" means. It is not just a skin color, it means much more than that.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 7:36:06 PM   
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"I've never seen one of your citations actually reference anything you've said."

I think I saw one last month. But it has to happen sometimes in 55,000 posts...

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 11:49:48 PM   
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I read about a Redneck named McVeigh, a Redneck named Whitman, a Redneck named Johnson, a Redneck named Mateen, they were not doing your lying asswipe pretend. They were involved.

McVeigh was from Indiana. That's not a redneck state. Just like the rest of your bilge, you got nothing but bluster. You really should try using facts instead of bluff. I've never seen one of your citations actually reference anything you've said.

Just like all the asswipe you spew you get your tongue stuck in a felching hole and it freezes. Uh, redneck is not defined by state, although often they mean red state welfare patients. But not a necessary and sufficient condition to be a redneck. But if you define redneck states by the high school dropout rate, most trailerhouses, and most walmarts, then I suppose it aint. I have never seen yoiu cite anything and if you did it is massive shiteating.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/11/2016 11:51:43 PM   
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"I've never seen one of your citations actually reference anything you've said."

I think I saw one last month. But it has to happen sometimes in 55,000 posts...

T^T

And here is the world renown retarded toiletlicker at the KFC.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/12/2016 4:49:04 AM   
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Give it up.

It's in American culture and has been since the founding. To ask America to give up its guns is like asking her to give up its profits or drugs, legal and illegal...can't do it. It is as simple as that.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/12/2016 5:41:03 AM   
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Give it up.

It's in American culture and has been since the founding. To ask America to give up its guns is like asking her to give up its profits or drugs, legal and illegal...can't do it. It is as simple as that.


Better to have it and not need it. I don't understand how people don't understand that. They must be putting something in the water.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/12/2016 7:35:47 AM   
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"To me, a redneck is someone who can't see beyond their nose coz it suits them; not open to new ideas or shuns the obvious that everyone else can see.
That pretty much describes all you gun nuts in the US. "


And who the fuck are you to say what the definition of words are ? Webster ?

T^T

Termy, I'm a redneck. Every time some prissy "feminist" tells me I can't say a word because it's offensive to him/her, I tell them my culture is redneck and in my culture that word means "such and such." Then I ask them if they are being prejudice to my culture because if they are I need them to stop or I'll report them. It's so funny, it always confuses them. But, I see beyond my nose and find most rednecks do as well. I do imagine that a lot of rednecks may fuck with some prissy, obnoxious Brit that has a stick up his ass and who is only staying for eight months in NC and wants to tell them all how to behave. I'd imagine that sort of funin may have occurred. And, a girly Brit with a stick up his ass that really couldn't understand anything in the culture in which he found himself immersed would probably think everyone was a cretin except himself.

Obama didn't go to school in Chicago and he certainly didn't let his girls go to local schools while he was running his scams as a community organizer there.


The italicised part was a quote, not my words, so you might have that mixed up a bit. I am not quite a redneck but I like rednecks generally and yes I would put a gun rack on my pickup truck but these day it would have to be locking. Motherfuckers will steal your shit.

the only exception I take to that post is about "report them". What, you need a Mommy ? They fuck with you, fuck back. Remember, I am from Usenet and there are totally unmoderated groups there. You can say anything you want there, but so can others. I am getting well practiced in returning insults with logically derived insults. In fact I got about a half dozen on my side against a Phd in Australia, he is so liberal I can smell it 10,000 miles away.

People do not know what redneck means, in fact I am not 100% sure but I got a good idea. And very few know what "White" means. It is not just a skin color, it means much more than that.

T^T



The "persuaeding" consisted of shouldering his shotgun, the guy instantly surrendered.

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RE: GROW UP AMERICA - 9/12/2016 10:56:42 AM   
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Lol, you really do, in your mind, think you add something to the debate and you think you're educating us. How entertaining. I don't recall you ever offering an original idea. I do see you felch bilge.

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