15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on!

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Real0ne -> 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 9:03:18 AM)
They got you by the balls! In order to get to the perps who did this, you need to get through their gubblemint, and the only way you can get through the gubblemint is to wage war against the gubblemint which will only get you dead and the beat goes on without you in th eland of the free. The beauty in this if it can be said this way is that now the average joe blow on the street can see that literally all of this is nothing more than a show how deep the corruption really goes, and most importantly how its pulled off. For those who did not keep up with the developments NIST has been proven to provide falsified documents, and despite the fact that the sprinklers were working, and no infernos can be seen in wtc2 they still claim fire took it out. Bld 7 is the smoking gun though that proves the NIST fraud and has gained world wide infamy. NIST refuses to release exactly what happened so engineers can correct the alledged design problems in future buildings. [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%207/nist%20coverup_zpsmlfyy1dq.png[/image] (The reason of course is that the scrap was immediately removed and melted down with no investigation of the steel on wtc7, and everything you get from NIST is purely speculation with NO data to back it up.) This is criminal negligence. Proven and admitted FALSE reporting by NIST forensics team [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%207/wtcdemo237_zpsf68cf284.gif[/image] The beams bursting in air gave proof through the day [image]http://www.pictureshack.us/images/72721_boddaboom86a.gif[/image] You can see the beams bursting into flames midair, you can see the tower shoot out sparks like a sparkler in front of the demolition wave. thermate linear cutter charge that the gubblemint refuses to talk about [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%207/linearthermatecutter_zps86f726d6.gif[/image] Yep, almost silent, (sounds like a beer fart), does not blow out windows, and cuts through steel better than a hot knife through butter. everyone can see it being blasted but the gubblemint [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/bmr2.gif[/image] a small sample of the melted steel that everyone can see but the gubblemint, they could not find ANY their extensive forensics investigation. [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtcdemo200-1.gif[/image] [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/FSL_2.gif[/image] Turn off the lights I dont wanna see daylight demo1 (a bank building) [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%207/demo4dummies_zpsf6b4a248.gif[/image] daylight not-demo2 (wtc7) [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%207/BOOM_zpsaff6daea.gif[/image] Demolition [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtcdemo003.gif[/image] Not a demolition LOL [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtc-southtowerbigbaddaboom-1.jpg[/image] You believe that right? "Those guys know very well what they are doing!" recently deceased demolition expert, cause of death Big fucking mouth. [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%207/DannyJowenkoWTC7Martyr4Truth_zpsff913bce.gif[/image] Its the usual MO people, its the way they operated since time memorial, they create a ephemism to distract people from the actual cause and effect. In other words, technically thermate does not 'explode' but will slice through steel like a hot knife through butter, a 4" thick beam in less than a 1/10 of a second. The scam is that they do not look for ANYTHING to do with thermate in the investigation and when people say explosives were used they simply say there is no evidence of it. Grammar/syntactic sleight of hand the same thing the courts have done to slice and dice every right you thought you had. Worse NIST claims that 7 went down DUE TO FIRES ALONE and they refuse to release their results so future buildings are not designed with the same errors. Instead they claim correcting those errors so future buildings do not fall on you would jeaopardize your safety! You buy that right? They do the crime, you do the time. [8\|]

WhoreMods -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 9:18:41 AM)
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Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 9:33:35 AM)
What possible reason could NIST have (other than fraud) to withold the (alleged) results of the their (alleged) findings which prevents building engineers today from correcting the alleged errors they claimed to have been made that allegedly caused the building to allegedly collapse DUE TO FIRE ALONE? Then worse claiming that publishing the (alleged) errors made "would jeopardize public safety"? Worse not one person is in jail, but several witnesses to explosions are dead, cause of death big mouth.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 9:48:48 AM)
People deserve a reasonable explanation for that. Dont they?

mnottertail -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 9:50:33 AM)
how do you know they did not in other ways release it to engineers? why give anyone a blueprint for blowing up american buildings. I saw no melted metal in your pictures. I saw torn, rusted (and some rotted) metal. Buildings are mostly hollow, and they fall straight down, a tree does not collapse on itself. Look at buildings that cave in, due to age it is on themselves.

KJoeDuo -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 10:30:30 AM)
Seriously- do you have even a modicum of structural and/or materials engineering experience or knowledge? I honestly believed you were kidding at first as no one in their right mind would state that we are seeing thermite burn as the towers collapse. 1. The thermite would be consumed before that point as it is exceptionally flammable 2. The amount of thermite required would be extraordinary and would have been obvious to anyone within the building as the structure was viewable throughout the interior stairwells and elevator shafts and personnel access those all the time in the maintenance areas 3. They waited until the plane hit to start the termite- incredible coincidence or one of those conspiracy theories which are prevalent saying it was a coordinated effort by the government Now- just for the sake of argument... Have you ever read the structural analysis of the collapse in the 9/11 report?

KJoeDuo -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 10:32:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne What possible reason could NIST have (other than fraud) to withold the (alleged) results of the their (alleged) findings which prevents building engineers today from correcting the alleged errors they claimed to have been made that allegedly caused the building to allegedly collapse DUE TO FIRE ALONE? Then worse claiming that publishing the (alleged) errors made "would jeopardize public safety"? Worse not one person is in jail, but several witnesses to explosions are dead, cause of death big mouth. Just because you personally do not agree with an explanation is no reason that it is not reasonable relative to the concerns expressed.

Gauge -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 10:55:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KJoeDuo I honestly believed you were kidding at first Wait until he tells you that the planes were CGI images. Unfortunately, he is dead serious.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 12:50:17 PM)
So you cant produce any argument against anything what so ever posted in the OP, the explosions and the false reporting and thermite and being able to see the demolition sequencing in bld 7 posted so far and feel the need to take this to what has not been posted? No comment? Nothing at all?

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 12:58:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KJoeDuo quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne What possible reason could NIST have (other than fraud) to withold the (alleged) results of the their (alleged) findings which prevents building engineers today from correcting the alleged errors they claimed to have been made that allegedly caused the building to allegedly collapse DUE TO FIRE ALONE? Then worse claiming that publishing the (alleged) errors made "would jeopardize public safety"? Worse not one person is in jail, but several witnesses to explosions are dead, cause of death big mouth. Just because you personally do not agree with an explanation is no reason that it is not reasonable relative to the concerns expressed. Well lets see, NIST is chartered to establish safety standards, and in order to do that they must first impartially investigate, make a conclusion, and then publish the conclusion to establish a safety standard. Right now engineers are making the same mistake in building design because the problem/solution is secret. I cant think of anything what so ever that would be reasonable. That said what why do you think the secrecy is reasonable, and its not 'an' explanation its 'that' explanation.

Gauge -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 1:22:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne So you cant produce any argument against anything what so ever posted in the OP, the explosions and the false reporting and thermite and being able to see the demolition sequencing in bld 7 posted so far and feel the need to take this to what has not been posted? No comment? Nothing at all? Do you forget that we did this before? So, yes, I made no comment because I hate repeating myself. The day you show me something concrete, I might actually listen. Posting GIFs and saying GOTCHA is not evidence.

stef -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 1:44:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods [img]http://1heurf2kk91pad4b23w0jddl.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/wambulance2.jpg[/img] It wont help, he needs the Cluebulance.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 1:50:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KJoeDuo Seriously- do you have even a modicum of structural and/or materials engineering experience or knowledge? I honestly believed you were kidding at first as no one in their right mind would state that we are seeing thermite burn as the towers collapse. 1. The thermite would be consumed before that point as it is exceptionally flammable 2. The amount of thermite required would be extraordinary and would have been obvious to anyone within the building as the structure was viewable throughout the interior stairwells and elevator shafts and personnel access those all the time in the maintenance areas 3. They waited until the plane hit to start the termite- incredible coincidence or one of those conspiracy theories which are prevalent saying it was a coordinated effort by the government Now- just for the sake of argument... Have you ever read the structural analysis of the collapse in the 9/11 report? Well you clicked on snotty tails name but I assume you meant this for me? 1) Yeh actually I know alot about thermate, the rate of burn depends on how it is used, the doping-materials, enclosed or open and on and on. You can make the exothermic reaction cause an explosion or take a very long time to sizzle away. 2) that is false, to the contrary thermate cutter charges use very little thermate as they are doped to burn fairly fast shooting a narrow stream of hot molten steel through a beam as you can see in the thermite cutter demonstration in the pic above. Here it is again watch closely: [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/Thermite/linearthermatecut_zpscqzqnvs3.gif[/image] [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/Thermite/CUT_zps93e7645e.gif[/image] [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%201/cut_003_zps7bp9hur7.png[/image] Once the steel starts to flow due to melting you literally only need a source of oxygen to keep it flowing, you can see this in any cutting torch. 2a) you presume it would have been obvious which is your speculation apparently because you think it would take truckloads to get the job done again which is not the case, it takes very little. 3) You assume a plane hit. Did you see one hit? I dont see a plane do you? [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%201/dablob_zpsi5tzwvhb.png[/image] as time went on the smudges mysteriously got darker and brighter [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%201/incoming_zps6cea3282.png[/image] I still do not see a plane, and I would argue that anyone who does has a very vivid imagination. People would claim that the camcorder wasnt capable of capturing such a fast moving plane! [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%20planes/1mile_zps17b40ec4.gif[/image] despite the fact that a cheap home cam will stop action a prop moving just slightly under the speed of sound on a p51. [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%20planes/3Qmilesdec4_zpsaec6ac03.gif[/image] and there is a cheap home cam at more than 3 miles away. Yet the naudet brothers with that super duper high quality equipment capture a flopping blob? [image]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%20cgi/cgi_zpsf29110e3.gif[/image] there is no end to the fuck ups in the official conspiracy theory and I have not even posted the most well second most laughable fuck up, but for anyone who thinks its real, to dispute it I need a full explanation with the physics involved why the flames which in that condition with a max velocity of 3000ft/sec (very slow) and little to no power to break windows, came out the side of the building sealed by 1" thick glass instead of the alleged gaping hole that offered literally no resistance that had to be there if the alleged plane actually went in.

Lucylastic -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 1:53:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods [img]http://1heurf2kk91pad4b23w0jddl.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/wambulance2.jpg[/img] It wont help, he needs the Cluebulance. Trying to say that three times fast is more fun than reading his blurb year after year

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 2:00:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne So you cant produce any argument against anything what so ever posted in the OP, the explosions and the false reporting and thermite and being able to see the demolition sequencing in bld 7 posted so far and feel the need to take this to what has not been posted? No comment? Nothing at all? Do you forget that we did this before? So, yes, I made no comment because I hate repeating myself. The day you show me something concrete, I might actually listen. Posting GIFs and saying GOTCHA is not evidence. Sure it is you can march gifs, videos, or stills right straight into court and enter it into evidence as exhibits. Some are the same pics used by the gubmint or are you trying to argue that its ok for them but not for me? How can you repeat what you did not post in the first place? All I recall seeing from you was 1 liners as you did above, that was completely void of substance? So if I search will I find some in depth analysis or are you trying to waste my time? Further more since I am not Mr Spock and cannot do a mind meld with everyone here the only way I can communicate what was seen on the site is to post what was allegedly seen through a camera lens and put out to the public for consumption, in its various formats, or is it that you have no ammo in your gun? Its the same format that convinced you that planes flew into the building. sorta see the irony in that [8\|]

RottenJohnny -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 2:10:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne ...despite the fact that a cheap home cam will stop action a prop moving just slightly under the speed of sound on a p59. Considering you don't even know the difference between a P-51 and a P-59 tells me all I need to know about the rest of your nonsense.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 2:23:16 PM)
I was aware of that and you posted that before I was finished correcting the typos. Is that all you have? Lil low on peas for your pea shooter?

Gauge -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 2:28:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne Sure it is you can march gifs, videos, or stills right straight into court and enter it into evidence as exhibits. You are not in court. quote: Some are the same pics used by the gubmint or are you trying to argue that its ok for them but not for me? I am not arguing anything of the sort. Please do not twist my words. quote: How can you repeat what you did not post in the first place? Please search for the thread: Never Forget! Sept 11th, A Day of Infamy quote: All I recall seeing from you was 1 liners as you did above, that was completely void of substance? If it is void of substance it is simply because you failed to convince me before, you are failing now, and it would be pointless for me to engage you again over this topic, regardless of how long ago that thread was posted. You are using the same tactics all over again. quote: So if I search will I find some in depth analysis or are you trying to waste my time? I would never presume to waste your time. quote: Further more since I am not Mr Spock and cannot do a mind meld with everyone here the only way I can communicate what was seen on the site is to post what was allegedly seen through a camera lens and put out to the public for consumption, in its various formats, or is it that you have no ammo in your gun? Again you fail to address the eyewitnesses, just like you did before in the other thread. quote: The same thing that convinced you that planes flew into the building. Oddly, I did not need convincing. quote: sorta see the irony in that What is ironic is that you offer nothing new, substantial or otherwise credible as far as proof. Pointing at an image or various images and saying, "See? It looks like a controlled demolition therefore it is a controlled demolition." is a Post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy and not proof that it was, in fact, a controlled demolition. I could go on with this, but, as I learned before, it is pointless.

RottenJohnny -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 2:32:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne I was aware of that and you posted that before I was finished correcting the typos. Is that all you have? Lil low on peas for your pea shooter? I don't need anything more. All your conspiracy fantasy is just that...fantasy.

stef -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/10/2016 3:05:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne I was aware of that and you posted that before I was finished correcting the typos. Is that all you have? Lil low on peas for your pea shooter? Not lower than you are on peas for your brain.

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