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Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is nuts. - 9/15/2016 12:04:40 PM

jlf1961

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Constitutional Carry:

The right, as garaunteed in the 2nd amendment to own and carry firearms openly.

Makes sense, everyone can see you have a gun, should cut down on stupidity.

In a sane world.

Now Missouri has passed a law that allows people to carry a cancelled gun without a permit, or even a basic firearms course.

Again, nothing wrong with it in a sane world.

However, we do not live in a sane world.

My personal opinion is that everyone that wants to own a gun has the right to do just that.

I also believe that anyone that buys a gun should have to take a mandatory basic firearms safety course, as much for their benefit as the rest of the population.

I also believe that if you really want to carry a gun around everywhere you go, you have the right to do so, and the rest of the citizens have the right to demand that you take a course to make sure of two things.

1) you know what the hell you are doing

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

2) the one carrying the gun knows exactly under what circumstances he or she can draw and use that firearm.

Sorry, but as a grandfather, father, great uncle etc, I can honestly say that there are people who can legally buy guns who have no idea what the hell they are doing, and in all honesty, should not have a cap gun in their possession.

This morning I saw a guy get pissed off because a very pregnant women got a parking place that he wanted and had to drive around the lane to get to, and she was waiting for the person to back out of it.

He yelled, screamed, cursed and actually threatened to shoot holes in her tires for taking the spot she had waited for.

He had a shotgun and an AR type rifle in the rear window of his truck.

Now, I could have escalated the situation by pulling the firearm I am licensed to carry, but instead simply pulled out my cellphone and dialed 911.

The police arrived before anything else could happen.

This is the kind of person that needs a firearm as much as they need an elephant standing on their balls.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 12:22:11 PM

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I also believe that anyone that buys a gun should have to take a mandatory basic firearms safety course, as much for their benefit as the rest of the population.

I think that that course ought to be mandatory in all US high schools.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 12:26:11 PM

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My personal opinion is that everyone that wants to own a gun has the right to do just that.

I also believe that anyone that buys a gun should have to take a mandatory basic firearms safety course, as much for their benefit as the rest of the population.

You do realize these are conflicting comments.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 12:28:22 PM

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Makes sense, everyone can see you have a gun, should cut down on stupidity.

Again, I disagree I think open carry increases the chance for stupidity.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 12:30:05 PM

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quote:

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quote:

I also believe that anyone that buys a gun should have to take a mandatory basic firearms safety course, as much for their benefit as the rest of the population.

I think that that course ought to be mandatory in all US high schools.

I have been advocating that on here for a couple of years.
Even making it an elective would be a step in the right direction.
When I was growing up I got a college level education in gun safty from my father, a cop.
My son got the same thing. But people who don't teach their kids not to steal can't be expected to teach them responsible gun ownership.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 9/15/2016 12:33:07 PM >

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 12:45:00 PM

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I bought my first gun last Friday and took the "License to Carry" class on Saturday. I agree, everyone has a right to carry a weapon but should have to take a class on proper use and safety of the weapon. Guns aren't toys.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 12:54:21 PM

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first the cost of getting a gun where do you hide it also if some dead beat bitch female fucks some deadbeat male produces more deadbeats
= sme people should no fuck have sex etc any one can have sex but look at reality guns do not kill people kill
your music industry encourages violence i am not amazed gun violence in USA
THIS is a bdsm site but has vanilia doms seeking nutless males having balls just saying is bad breeding
we can not openly say what we want but

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:17:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

This is the kind of person that needs a firearm as much as they need an elephant standing on their balls.

This kind of person, firearms or no, needs an elephant standing on his balls so they will be crushed and he can't ever breed.

Sadly, they seem to be the biggest breeders.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:22:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: Trucker6254

I bought my first gun last Friday and took the "License to Carry" class on Saturday. I agree, everyone has a right to carry a weapon but should have to take a class on proper use and safety of the weapon. Guns aren't toys.

No they aren't. People need to learn responsiblity again, not just with guns.
My bigest problem with that is that some places, like DC make the courses and such so expesive that they price the average person out of being able to afford the gun.
It costs more to get permission to own a gun, let alone get a permit than most guns cost.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:24:37 PM

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dafuq?

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:35:15 PM

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dafuq?

It shouldn't cost to get permission to buy a firearm should not exceed the cost of the firearm.
When you do that you are making a back door law depriving lower income people of the right to own.
Same with massive taxes on firearms and ammunition.
Some on here (and some in government, Obama included) have come out in favor of a tax on fireams and ammunition equal to 4x the cost of that firearm or ammunition.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:38:57 PM

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that wasn't directed at you

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:41:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

that wasn't directed at you

Ok, sorry.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:42:32 PM

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De nada

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 1:45:41 PM

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dafuq?

I think, due to his other posts that he types while riding a horse...or running away from one, I havent bothered to decide which.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 2:05:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

dafuq?

It shouldn't cost to get permission to buy a firearm should not exceed the cost of the firearm.
When you do that you are making a back door law depriving lower income people of the right to own.
Same with massive taxes on firearms and ammunition.
Some on here (and some in government, Obama included) have come out in favor of a tax on fireams and ammunition equal to 4x the cost of that firearm or ammunition.

It should not cost permission to vote you mean. Best smackdown of voter ID I have every seen.
Obama has come out in favor of no such thing. Period.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 2:29:29 PM

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A man who will lose his marbles over a parking place, isn't going to learn anything from a firearm class.

When I purchased my pistol, a retired police officer who is now an instructor taught me how to operate the gun. I go to the range and practice with it, otherwise it is locked away. I considered a CPL, but I don't really care to carry a firearm around with me. I had a terrible fear of pistols, which is one of the reasons I wanted to learn how to safely and confidently handle one.

As for the guy in your post who was yelling at the pregnant lady - I'm glad you called the police - I hope he had his weapons confiscated.

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 2:49:16 PM

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well then make arms safety a mandatory class in school, how hard is that?

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 2:50:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Trucker6254

I bought my first gun last Friday and took the "License to Carry" class on Saturday. I agree, everyone has a right to carry a weapon but should have to take a class on proper use and safety of the weapon. Guns aren't toys.

No they aren't. People need to learn responsiblity again, not just with guns.
My bigest problem with that is that some places, like DC make the courses and such so expesive that they price the average person out of being able to afford the gun.
It costs more to get permission to own a gun, let alone get a permit than most guns cost.

and we have such wonderful politicians and lawmakers to set that good example for us

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RE: Alright, I am a gun owner, but even I think this is... - 9/15/2016 3:25:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

A man who will lose his marbles over a parking place, isn't going to learn anything from a firearm class.

When I purchased my pistol, a retired police officer who is now an instructor taught me how to operate the gun. I go to the range and practice with it, otherwise it is locked away. I considered a CPL, but I don't really care to carry a firearm around with me. I had a terrible fear of pistols, which is one of the reasons I wanted to learn how to safely and confidently handle one.

As for the guy in your post who was yelling at the pregnant lady - I'm glad you called the police - I hope he had his weapons confiscated.

There was a simular incident in Kansas this week.
A woman was putung he child in the car when someone hit her in the head. He must have used a club of some kind as she is in critial condition. And unarmed samaritan tried to help and was shot. a armed citizen interveened and shot one of the two attackers killing him, the other was captured by the police, This is the same kind of person he was talking about who is a danger to society with a set of car keys, even without a car.

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