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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/22/4-new-papers-link-solar-activity-natural-ocean-cycles-to-climate-and-find-warmer-temps-during-1700s-1800s/#sthash.noIOk83z.w0sV465R.dpbs

4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cycles To Climate – And Find Warmer Temps During 1700s, 1800s - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/22/4-new-papers-link-solar-activity-natural-ocean-cycles-to-climate-and-find-warmer-temps-during-1700s-1800s


The latest papers linking solar activity as well as ocean oscillations to climate changes are listed below. Not only do these papers describe solar activity and ocean oscillations as the dominant mechanisms of climate change, they provide evidence that the modern, post-1950 period does not contain the highest temperatures of the last few hundred years. In fact, these papers each document that temperatures during some periods of the 1700s and/or 1800s were just as warm or warmer than present temperatures.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/22/4-new-papers-link-solar-activity-natural-ocean-cycles-to-climate-and-find-warmer-temps-during-1700s-1800s/#sthash.noIOk83z.w0sV465R.dpbs

4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cycles To Climate – And Find Warmer Temps During 1700s, 1800s - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/22/4-new-papers-link-solar-activity-natural-ocean-cycles-to-climate-and-find-warmer-temps-during-1700s-1800s


The latest papers linking solar activity as well as ocean oscillations to climate changes are listed below. Not only do these papers describe solar activity and ocean oscillations as the dominant mechanisms of climate change, they provide evidence that the modern, post-1950 period does not contain the highest temperatures of the last few hundred years. In fact, these papers each document that temperatures during some periods of the 1700s and/or 1800s were just as warm or warmer than present temperatures.

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...when people reject well-established scientific propositions."

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oh please not another global warming thread...here's roughly, eventually how it will go.

the whole area is incredibly complex. the science and the "evidence" is not settled, except for that the global warming/man-man climate change folks will say it is despite evidence to the contrary.

the global warming/man-made climate change folks will continue to cite information that is not true, has been debunked and ignore all the evidence from the other side as to how they have manipulated data and systematically silenced opposition/studies that show contrary information.

the end result of that all, despite what I have written above, will be the global warming/man-made climate change folks will call the folks on the other side "deniers" (and that with no irony either).

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...when people reject well-established scientific propositions."

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"physician, heal thyself."

the entire premise of the psychology above seems to rest on this:

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...when people reject well-established scientific propositions."

it seems you, and the author of the piece, are starting from the de facto position of the man made global warming/climate change/whatever, is incontrovertibly the truth. its not.

heres what I wrote last time around, its still relevant:

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oh please not another global warming thread...here's roughly, eventually how it will go.

the whole area is incredibly complex. the science and the "evidence" is not settled, except for that the global warming/man-man climate change folks will say it is despite evidence to the contrary.

the global warming/man-made climate change folks will continue to cite information that is not true, has been debunked and ignore all the evidence from the other side as to how they have manipulated data and systematically silenced opposition/studies that show contrary information.

the end result of that all, despite what I have written above, will be the global warming/man-made climate change folks will call the folks on the other side "deniers" (and that with no irony either).

in light of that, use of the word "denial" simply paints people who use that language, as sorts of close-minded climate fascists.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

There are not two sides to climate change. There is established scientific consensus. The other side is not a carefully considered opinion with equal weighting. It's a collection of lunatics, vested interests and conspiracy theorists who have no coherent scientific explanation for the warming effect we're seeing.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming

Environmental Research Letters | Volume 11, Number 4

Climate scientists overwhelmingly agree that humans are causing recent global warming. The consensus position is articulated by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) statement that 'human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century' (Qin et al 2014, p 17). The National Academies of Science from 80 countries have issued statements endorsing the consensus position (table S2). Nevertheless, the existence of the consensus continues to be questioned. Here we summarize studies that quantify expert views and examine common flaws in criticisms of consensus estimates. In particular, we are responding to a comment by Tol (2016) on Cook et al (2013, referred to as C13). We show that contrary to Tol's claim that the results of C13 differ from earlier studies, the consensus of experts is robust across all the studies conducted by coauthors of this correspondence.

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Misinformation about climate change has been observed to reduce climate literacy levels (McCright et al 2016, Ranney and Clark 2016), and manufacturing doubt about the scientific consensus on climate change is one of the most effective means of reducing acceptance of climate change and support for mitigation policies (Oreskes 2010, van der Linden et al 2016). Therefore, it should come as no surprise that the most common argument used in contrarian op-eds about climate change from 2007 to 2010 was that there is no scientific consensus on human-caused global warming (Elsasser and Dunlap 2012, Oreskes and Conway 2011). The generation of climate misinformation persists, with arguments against climate science increasing relative to policy arguments in publications by conservative organisations (Boussalis and Coan 2016).

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From a broader perspective, it doesn't matter if the consensus number is 90% or 100%. The level of scientific agreement on AGW is overwhelmingly high because the supporting evidence is overwhelmingly strong.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: Nnanji

http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/22/4-new-papers-link-solar-activity-natural-ocean-cycles-to-climate-and-find-warmer-temps-during-1700s-1800s/#sthash.noIOk83z.w0sV465R.dpbs

4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cycles To Climate – And Find Warmer Temps During 1700s, 1800s - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/22/4-new-papers-link-solar-activity-natural-ocean-cycles-to-climate-and-find-warmer-temps-during-1700s-1800s


The latest papers linking solar activity as well as ocean oscillations to climate changes are listed below. Not only do these papers describe solar activity and ocean oscillations as the dominant mechanisms of climate change, they provide evidence that the modern, post-1950 period does not contain the highest temperatures of the last few hundred years. In fact, these papers each document that temperatures during some periods of the 1700s and/or 1800s were just as warm or warmer than present temperatures.


Have you a link to the peer reviews of these 77 pages of gibberish?

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ORIGINAL: markyugen

Wow, a whopping 77 papers are now advocating this theory. I guess I'll just toss out the 10,800+ peer-reviewed papers already out there making the claim that cc is anthropogenic, or man-made.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

reducing acceptance of climate change and support for mitigation policies...

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climate misinformation persists, with arguments against climate science increasing relative to policy arguments in publications by conservative organisations (Boussalis and Coan 2016).

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climate misinformation

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

On a lighter note . . .

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I might consider it a comical lighter note were it not for the glaring and tragic "97% myth" that keeps rearing its ugly and unconscionable head.