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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 5:55:39 PM   
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reducing acceptance of climate change and support for mitigation policies...



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climate misinformation persists, with arguments against climate science increasing relative to policy arguments in publications by conservative organisations (Boussalis and Coan 2016).


that is absolutely rich---do you see the veritable pot charging the kettle with blackness?

and please, go back and read my post above.

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climate misinformation


that's rich too---when people who have phd's and have spent their entire careers studying climate come up with findings that differ from others, its no longer a matter of interpretation or evidence of a lack of consensus, its "misinformation."

Yes, it's the only "settled science" that won't allow descent. Oh! Wait! That's right, it's the only "Settled Science" because it's so special. All lesser science is unsettled, but not climate.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 5:56:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		It amazes me that "global cooling", Opps "global warming", Opps "climate change" proponents won't listen to different opinions.

Here's a tip honey, science is not a consensus. Science is not opinion. Science is provable facts with either a YES or NO answer, not who has the most votes.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 5:59:56 PM   
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I might consider it a comical lighter note were it not for the glaring and tragic "97% myth" that keeps rearing its ugly and unconscionable head.

If you have a source that disputes the 2016 paper to which I linked, I'm open to seeing it.

See above. Linked for you.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 6:00:50 PM   
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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 6:02:43 PM   
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I have always found it interesting that those who oppose the idea of climate change or of it being largley the result of human activity also tend to all be very hrd right wing. I wonder why that is.

If you try, and concentrate really really hard, I'm sure...well, probably...maybe you can figure that out all by yourself.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 6:48:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		"I have always found it interesting that those who support the idea of climate change or of it being largely the result of human activity also tend to all be very left wing. I wonder why that is."

if there is one side as compared to the other who is much more guilty of politics influencing and even interfering with the science, its the collectivist wealth distributionist lefties.



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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 6:51:15 PM   
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Science is provable facts with either a YES or NO answer, not who has the most votes.

Sooooo, theoretical physics is not science then?

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 6:52:32 PM   
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If you try, and concentrate really really hard, I'm sure...well, probably...maybe you can figure that out all by yourself.

They're not too bright?

(Those same hard right types were the main birther supporters as well)

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 6:56:07 PM   
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if there is one side as compared to the other who is much more guilty of politics influencing and even interfering with the science, its the collectivist wealth distributionist lefties.

Wow, that went right over your head.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 7:00:50 PM   
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I have always found it interesting that those who oppose the idea of climate change or of it being largley the result of human activity also tend to all be very hrd right wing. I wonder why that is.

To borrow from Deep Throat, "follow the money."

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 7:01:56 PM   
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if there is one side as compared to the other who is much more guilty of politics influencing and even interfering with the science, its the collectivist wealth distributionist lefties.

What's your source for this claim?

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 7:11:45 PM   
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To borrow from Deep Throat, "follow the money."

So the posters on this thread are being paid to post their opinions?

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 7:16:04 PM   
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To borrow from Deep Throat, "follow the money."

So the posters on this thread are being paid to post their opinions?

I hadn't realized your statement focused only on CM posters.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 7:29:09 PM   
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Science is provable facts with either a YES or NO answer, not who has the most votes.


Sooooo, theoretical physics is not science then?



He's afraid of getting lepton by a tachyon and dragged down in a subatomic by strange quarks.




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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 8:28:35 PM   
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I hadn't realized your statement focused only on CM posters.

It wasn't, but it included them

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 8:43:35 PM   
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The funding of the Heartland Institute, for instance, is quite interesting.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Heartland_Institute

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/27/2016 10:09:00 PM   
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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/28/2016 5:19:43 AM   
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if there is one side as compared to the other who is much more guilty of politics influencing and even interfering with the science, its the collectivist wealth distributionist lefties.

Wow, that went right over your head.


if I am missing something other than this----that you posted something that implies one side (the right) is heavily influenced by politics or greed or whatever in their climate science beliefs, and I replied with your exact same language but with the "sides" switched out---then you will have to tell me exactly what it is that went over my head.

you said the pot is black and I said look at the kettle times two.

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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/28/2016 5:32:12 AM   
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I have always found it interesting that those who oppose the idea of climate change or of it being largley the result of human activity also tend to all be very hrd right wing. I wonder why that is.

To borrow from Deep Throat, "follow the money."


despite her believing something went "over my head" this is pretty much exactly my point to dizzy chick.

look at your own "side" and see where the money, and the power, or the furtherance of a political ideology, goes. as a part of that contemplation, consider which side gets caught falsifying data, quashing dissent, and making extravagant claims that do not materialize.

as far as your question of "what's your source for this claim?", you might just as well ask whats my source for making a claim, for instance, that feminism seeks to dismantle patriarchy, its an essential part of the substance, its ubiquitously recognized.

so much so actually that in some cases, the politics/ideology comes first and the science comes after.

if you don't share in that "recognized ubiquity", then the internet is awash with the marriage between climate science and leftist ideology, you should have no trouble finding tons to read.






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RE: 4 New Papers Link Solar Activity, Natural Ocean Cyc... - 9/28/2016 7:25:14 AM   
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Fuckin ghost busters!


That's who I'd call.


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