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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 9:51:08 PM   
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I feel I should apologize for my post last night. The combination of pain medication and something I took over the counter for a cold I fear interacted with each other and made me daft. The way I posted what I posted was not with my usual respect and dignity. I hope those involved, or those that responded to my post, can understand. I said some things I shouldn't have said and for that, I am sorry.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 9:53:45 PM   
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Thanks for the recap on all of Trump's inconsistencies.
The only problem is, compared to the kind of lies Hillary told. I mean her conduct about her emails, that is super dodgey and it actually involves real national security dangers.

I didn't find anything such a humongous deal.
So Trump plays down his bankruptcies, his lawsuits, and absolute refusal to release his tax returns. He has admit on national TV that it's because he does not pay federal taxes. Obviously exploiting some business loophole. That is Trump. He knows the truth is not political correct, and has been avoiding to say it as it is, using the auditing excuse. But end of the day, I always knew it would show how he will utilise whatever loopholes there is to pay as little as possible. He runs a business, there will be ups and downs.

The problem I see here is, do we want someone closer like Angela Merkel who is a bleeding heart and just happily spending the country's money to help other countries? Or do we want a someone who will simply always put America's Interest first, even though it's not altruistic and selfish thing to do.

I was talking to a french dude the other day, and he told me, a refugee in france gets up to Euros 5000 per month spending money and as well as free housing for 1 year, then after 1 year if they still can't find a job, they get heavily subsidised housing and their allowances continue. But poor and suffering and homeless people of France gets none of these benefits.

I look it from my point of view, if I got to choose the better of the worst, I want to choose the selfish one who will stop caring about other countries and start focusing on solving the problems in his own country and fixing his own country first.

BTW, although Trump was on a mission for Obama to prove that he is not born in Kenya. But doesn't mean it is racism derived. Just that he obviously heard the birther rumour, and then decided to chase after it. Which Obama actually took it seriously enough to provide proof.



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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 10:06:59 PM   
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I need to do something here, please bear with me.

I feel I should apologize for my post last night. The combination of pain medication and something I took over the counter for a cold I fear interacted with each other and made me daft. The way I posted what I posted was not with my usual respect and dignity. I hope those involved, or those that responded to my post, can understand. I said some things I shouldn't have said and for that, I am sorry.

Thanks Gauge, we all have our lousier days, me too. Really nice of you to come back to explain.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 10:09:31 PM   
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Thanks Gauge, we all have our lousier days, me too. Really nice of you to come back to explain.



I stand by what I said about the debate. Your country had fuckall to do with what I was saying and that is what I apologize for.


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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 11:16:37 PM   
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I stand by what I said about the debate. Your country had fuckall to do with what I was saying and that is what I apologize for.

I am totally aware that you aren't apologizing for your political views at all. And there is nothing wrong with your political views to apologize for anyway.
More about the statement of people from other countries shouldn't comment on US politics.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 11:27:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		The debate was 'interesting' Gauge but as you said, it is nothing to do with us apart from the fact that which one DOES become president is a concern to the whole world. Maybe if Trump were to retreat behind his wall and take America back to isolationism, it wouldn't be such a worry but those days are long gone and the whole world is tied together militarily, politically and economically now and in all those cases , when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches cold.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/27/2016 11:36:00 PM   
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The debate was 'interesting' Gauge but as you said, it is nothing to do with us apart from the fact that which one DOES become president is a concern to the whole world. Maybe if Trump were to retreat behind his wall and take America back to isolationism, it wouldn't be such a worry but those days are long gone and the whole world is tied together militarily, politically and economically now and in all those cases , when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches cold.


Gosh my local papers were totally dissing Trump today, interviewing Koreans, Chinese, Thais lol. Ya know Koreans and Chinese still hate the Japanese, so they were actually not happy about Trump saying he doesn't care if Japan get nuclear weapons.

But frankly speaking. I consider Japan completely harmless and trustable with nuclear weapons now. They are no longer war world 2 assholes.

But on the other hand! Why does any country need nuclear weapons? It should be a total ban worldwide, no countries should have it.

Precisely because some countries have it and some countries don't. It becomes very unfair and pisses off the countries who can't have it.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 1:07:28 AM   
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I was talking to a french dude the other day, and he told me, a refugee in france gets up to Euros 5000 per month spending money and as well as free housing for 1 year, then after 1 year if they still can't find a job, they get heavily subsidised housing and their allowances continue. But poor and suffering and homeless people of France gets none of these benefits.




Dateline: 2012 Breaking News French government cuts immigrants welfare by 83%

HERE

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 2:06:55 AM   
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Dateline: 2012 Breaking News French government cuts immigrants welfare by 83%

HERE

Oh, so my friend is not updated about his country changes.
Although he practically lives in it. Was only here for 6 months.
I was asking him how the hell can the government afford such high pay out every month to these refugees! This makes sense they gotta cut it down now.

But THIS caught my eye. Exactly as my friend said is the situation.

Many migrants, especially those from Arab countries-former colonies of France, are used to living on government subsidies. They have been doing it for years, and have been teaching their children this model of social behavior

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 2:12:01 AM   
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Dan Savage: "Trump then told CNN he's probably going to bring up these not-so-nice things about Bill Clinton at the next debate."

DS then offers his thoughts on how HRC might respond: http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/09/27/24584577/unsolicited-advice-for-hillary-clinton

Yours truly might add: "Unlike you, Donald, I take the till death do us part promise in my marital vows very seriously." Also "You chose to break up a family--twice. I chose not to, opting instead to honor my commitment and do the best I could by my child and my family. For many of us across America, that's called traditional marriage and family values."


Actually in her case it was stick with the asshole despite the fact that he's a pig because she was afraid a divorce would screw up her political ambitions. But yea lets pretend we were not around back when she admitted that and believe she stayed because of some commitment to the jerk.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 2:24:17 AM   
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The media is soooo bias. Screaming Trump is the only liar in the debates.

Good video here showing evidence that Hillary was worst. Like nobody bothered fact checking Hillary at all!


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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 2:25:31 AM   
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But seriously to all my American friends, and others,

if Trump gets in, he will just milk the system dry, pay off all his debts,

and f... everything up/
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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 4:20:18 AM   
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Yea we all already know there is a group of Republican that is Team Hillary.


No we do not know that. What we do know you are trumps pimp and will say anything that comes into your empty head.


I mean the whole Bush Family is voting Hillary.

why do you think that is so? What do they know that you do not?


If super conservative republicans are rejecting Trump.
That's fantastic! That's why Trump is great!

Actually that is a non sequeter...if you do not understand what that means we are not surprised.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 4:41:45 AM   
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Thanks for the recap on all of Trump's inconsistencies.


It is interesting that in all the time you have been his pimp you had not noticed...why is that?

The only problem is, compared to the kind of lies Hillary told. I mean her conduct about her emails, that is super dodgey and it actually involves real national security dangers.


You keep saying that but you have yet to substantiate it with any facts...why is that?

I didn't find anything such a humongous deal.
So Trump plays down his bankruptcies, his lawsuits, and absolute refusal to release his tax returns. He has admit on national TV that it's because he does not pay federal taxes. Obviously exploiting some business loophole. That is Trump. He knows the truth is not political correct, and has been avoiding to say it as it is, using the auditing excuse. But end of the day, I always knew it would show how he will utilise whatever loopholes there is to pay as little as possible. He runs a business, there will be ups and downs.


He is a liar,cheat and a thief not a businessman. That you approve of such behaviour is quite revealing

The problem I see here is, do we want someone


We?????You are no part of we. You are entitled to your opinion but you are not part of we...unless...you are admitting to being timmy's sock.


closer like Angela Merkel who is a bleeding heart and just happily spending the country's money to help other countries?


What is the p.m. of that third world shithole called singapore doing with the cpf while he is sucking uncle sugars cock? How much has that f35 fiasco cost so far???they are having a lot of trouble keeping them from making smoking holes or even getting them to fly on a regular bassis.


Or do we want a someone who will simply always put America's Interest first, even though it's not altruistic and selfish thing to do.


There is that "we" again....It appears that the idiot from idaho approves of uncle sugar syphoning the wealth out of that third world shithole called singapore.
Good on ya timmy..."money for nothing and chicks for free"


I was talking to a french dude the other day, and he told me, a refugee in france gets up to Euros 5000 per month spending money and as well as free housing for 1 year, then after 1 year if they still can't find a job, they get heavily subsidised housing and their allowances continue. But poor and suffering and homeless people of France gets none of these benefits.


Your "friend is full of shit as are you.


I look it from my point of view, if I got to choose the better of the worst, I want to choose the selfish one who will stop caring about other countries and start focusing on solving the problems in his own country and fixing his own country first.


That third world shithole called singapore has about a third of their people living in poverty while subsidizing amerika's military industrial complex. So whose country are you pimping timmy? amerika or that third world shithole called singapore?


BTW, although Trump was on a mission for Obama to prove that he is not born in Kenya.

Trump is obamas bitch? Who knew?

But doesn't mean it is racism derived. Just that he obviously heard the birther rumour, and then decided to chase after it. Which Obama actually took it seriously enough to provide proof.


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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 5:23:35 AM   
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Or do we want a someone who will simply always put America's Interest first, even though it's not altruistic and selfish thing to do.

Why would the circus peanut do that? His interests come before his country's, as the comments about tax evasion during the debate should have made clear to anybody. Probably the only reason the lying bastard started banging on about building a wall on the Mexican border was because he thought he could hand the construction contracts over to his own companies at a massively inflated price and skim a load of the budget off the top.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 7:57:03 AM   
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Or do we want a someone who will simply always put America's Interest first, even though it's not altruistic and selfish thing to do.

Why would the circus peanut do that? His interests come before his country's, as the comments about tax evasion during the debate should have made clear to anybody. Probably the only reason the lying bastard started banging on about building a wall on the Mexican border was because he thought he could hand the construction contracts over to his own companies at a massively inflated price and skim a load of the budget off the top.

Wouldn't that be what the Mop calls "smart" business?

He told the world during the debate that it's "smart" to put one's own financial and business interests above a citizen's obligations to the State. If he thinks that's "smart business" he's hardly to change his ways if he somehow lies his way into the White House.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 8:05:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Quite. Any kind of crooked double dealing is smart business so long as you get away with it, seems to be the circus peanut's reading of that one, which really inspires confidence in him as the man you want running a nation's budget, doesn't it?
That the tiny-handed shitweasel has the bare faced gall to refer to Cruz and Clinton as crooks beggars belief, really...

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 8:16:23 AM   
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Actually in her case it was stick with the asshole despite the fact that he's a pig because she was afraid a divorce would screw up her political ambitions. But yea lets pretend we were not around back when she admitted that and believe she stayed because of some commitment to the jerk.

When did she say that?

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 8:19:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		She didn't say that in quite so many words, but I think there was a statement to the effect that if she's willing to grit her teeth and put up with it, so should Starr during the impeachment fuss.

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RE: 1st Presidential Debate - 9/28/2016 2:51:54 PM   
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An interesting review of the technical aspects of the debate.

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