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BamaD -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 4:40:03 PM)


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It might not if they did alot of PCP. For those not in the know, PCP is horse painkiller. Horses do not sleep like we do so in some cases vets did surgery on them while they were standing up. Works pretty good on humans and has a pretty wild buzz with it. When on it you can take a chainsaw and cut your arm off and not give it a second thought.

That's when you shoot somebody in the legs. If PCP has the alarming effects that are sometimes claimed for it, somebody possibly could keep going with a couple of bullets in the belly until they bleed out, but I'd like to see them trying to move (or even stand up) with their knees and/or hips shattered.

When on PCP you don't feel pain and in case you are unaware of this a man who is laying down can still kill you.




Edwird -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 4:50:58 PM)

You seem to know a lot about the effects of PCP.


In any case, a knee that is blown out just doesn't function. It's not a matter of pain tolerance.







ThatDizzyChick -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 4:57:42 PM)

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When on PCP you don't feel pain

I can tell you from personal experience that this is not true.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 4:59:02 PM)

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Our cops train from the day they join up till they retire.

Bullshit




BamaD -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 6:10:58 PM)

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You seem to know a lot about the effects of PCP.


In any case, a knee that is blown out just doesn't function. It's not a matter of pain tolerance.





Are you aware that a person setting or even laying down can fire a gun.




Chaska -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 6:25:57 PM)


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Shoot them in the leg my ass, no gun training ever teaches that.

T^T


Obviously not where you are.

That is one of the differences between some countries with short term training periods of a handful of weeks and other countries with minimum training of 2-3 years for police forces.

Effective use of weapons without killing as well as de-escalation of potentially dangerous situations requires brains and long training.



2-3 YEARS to train a cop? Where does the money come from?
Pay a man for three year to not help on the streets?
I find that hard to believe.
How long do they have to sign up for?
Friends of mine tell stories of seeing people being beaten to a pulp for saying agreesive threatening things like what when dealing with German cops.




The money is well paid for training cops that are able to do a proper job. It is a job for lifetime possibly so the money is well invested. They get trained in units called Bereitschaftspolizei which during training periods are used to support regular police units at sports events, demonstrations asf. and regular police units at intervals. It is not a matter of "belief" - get informed.

I guess your "friends" with bad manners did not stop at saying aggressive threatening things ...




Our cops train from the day they join up till they retire.


What you're saying is, you see no benefit in extensive training for police officers and that on the job training is the best and only option.
Would you let someone work on your car with minimal training as an auto mechanic, that is expected to learn primarily on the job?
The average amount of training to become a police office is 19 to 21 weeks lets say 3 months, while to become a certified auto mechanic it is 51 weeks rounded equals 2 years. So it takes 8 times more training to be an auto mechanic than to be a police officer. Are cars more important and of greater value than human beings? Not to mention dealing with human beings is a more complicated issue.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 6:42:51 PM)

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Are cars more important and of greater value than human beings?

To him, yeah




BamaD -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 6:44:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
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Shoot them in the leg my ass, no gun training ever teaches that.

T^T


Obviously not where you are.

That is one of the differences between some countries with short term training periods of a handful of weeks and other countries with minimum training of 2-3 years for police forces.

Effective use of weapons without killing as well as de-escalation of potentially dangerous situations requires brains and long training.



2-3 YEARS to train a cop? Where does the money come from?
Pay a man for three year to not help on the streets?
I find that hard to believe.
How long do they have to sign up for?
Friends of mine tell stories of seeing people being beaten to a pulp for saying agreesive threatening things like what when dealing with German cops.




The money is well paid for training cops that are able to do a proper job. It is a job for lifetime possibly so the money is well invested. They get trained in units called Bereitschaftspolizei which during training periods are used to support regular police units at sports events, demonstrations asf. and regular police units at intervals. It is not a matter of "belief" - get informed.

I guess your "friends" with bad manners did not stop at saying aggressive threatening things ...




Our cops train from the day they join up till they retire.


What you're saying is, you see no benefit in extensive training for police officers and that on the job training is the best and only option.
Would you let someone work on your car with minimal training as an auto mechanic, that is expected to learn primarily on the job?
The average amount of training to become a police office is 19 to 21 weeks lets say 3 months, while to become a certified auto mechanic it is 51 weeks rounded equals 2 years. So it takes 8 times more training to be an auto mechanic than to be a police officer. Are cars more important and of greater value than human beings? Not to mention dealing with human beings is a more complicated issue.

No, I said that the 4 months traning before going on duty is hardly the end of their training.
When possible they ride with another cop for a year or so. This means they have constant supervision over that period of time.
To follow your example it isn't as if a novice mechanic is let loose on your car, it is as if he works under the guidence of a master mechanic.




thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:25:55 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD

Our cops train from the day they join up till they retire.

First you snivle that your cops don't have enough training becausae of lack of funds now you brag that they are highly trained.
According to the doj they are highly trained in being criminals. That is why the doj took over the lapd for two years...had you read the doj report on the furgistan cops you would see the same. How higly trained was the cop who shot the health care worker instead of the mentally disturbed man brandishing a toy truck?
Not only are you a coward but you also post stupid shit and are stupid enough to think anyone, except greta the idiot from idaho,believes it.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





RottenJohnny -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:26:02 PM)

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Shoot to kill or don't shoot at all.

That would certainly reduce the number of hostile witnesses wouldn't it?

It's not about the number of witnesses remaining. It's about knowing the responsibility and justification required in pulling that trigger in the first place. If I feel my life is so truly threatened that it actually justifies the use of a gun then there's only one legitimate response.




thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:39:32 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


And as my NG 1st sgt told us, three .45s in the chest tends to be very disabling.


Ah yes the national fraud who's most intense fire fight happened at kent state against unarmed children.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:44:36 PM)

ORIGINAL: BamaD


I remember 50 years ago, when it was easier to buy a gun than it is to buy a pack of cigeretts today.

Once again you are proving just how phoquing stupid you are.
In 1966 everyone had to show id and fill out paperwork stating that they were not as mentally defective as you are.





thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:46:38 PM)


ORIGINAL: Awareness

Because he's Arpig.

Only arpig would say so.




thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:51:06 PM)

ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny
ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Shoot to kill or don't shoot at all.

That would certainly reduce the number of hostile witnesses wouldn't it?

It's not about the number of witnesses remaining.

How does killing the only hostile witness not about reducing the number of witnesses?


It's about knowing the responsibility and justification required in pulling that trigger in the first place. If I feel my life is so truly threatened that it actually justifies the use of a gun then there's only one legitimate response.


Since you would be the only witness you can claim what ever you choose. How convenient[8|]




thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:52:36 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


I use full powered hornady critical defense.
And when I shoot at twenty paces, an etreme range for a gunfight, I don't miss.

Not a good enough shot to use fmj[8|]
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.





Chaska -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:53:16 PM)

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Shoot them in the leg my ass, no gun training ever teaches that.

T^T


Obviously not where you are.

That is one of the differences between some countries with short term training periods of a handful of weeks and other countries with minimum training of 2-3 years for police forces.

Effective use of weapons without killing as well as de-escalation of potentially dangerous situations requires brains and long training.



2-3 YEARS to train a cop? Where does the money come from?
Pay a man for three year to not help on the streets?
I find that hard to believe.
How long do they have to sign up for?
Friends of mine tell stories of seeing people being beaten to a pulp for saying agreesive threatening things like what when dealing with German cops.




The money is well paid for training cops that are able to do a proper job. It is a job for lifetime possibly so the money is well invested. They get trained in units called Bereitschaftspolizei which during training periods are used to support regular police units at sports events, demonstrations asf. and regular police units at intervals. It is not a matter of "belief" - get informed.

I guess your "friends" with bad manners did not stop at saying aggressive threatening things ...




Our cops train from the day they join up till they retire.


What you're saying is, you see no benefit in extensive training for police officers and that on the job training is the best and only option.
Would you let someone work on your car with minimal training as an auto mechanic, that is expected to learn primarily on the job?
The average amount of training to become a police office is 19 to 21 weeks lets say 3 months, while to become a certified auto mechanic it is 51 weeks rounded equals 2 years. So it takes 8 times more training to be an auto mechanic than to be a police officer. Are cars more important and of greater value than human beings? Not to mention dealing with human beings is a more complicated issue.

No, I said that the 4 months traning before going on duty is hardly the end of their training.
When possible they ride with another cop for a year or so. This means they have constant supervision over that period of time.
To follow your example it isn't as if a novice mechanic is let loose on your car, it is as if he works under the guidence of a master mechanic.


Incorrect, you had not mention anything about the length of training in this thread until now. You did make the unsubstantiated claim they train until they retire. Until you can back that up with facts it stands as on the job training other than the initial 3 months training. Which leads to yet another question "if" they are supervised, how much training does the supervisor have? As far as auto mechanic trainees being supervised its in a class room environment not the auto repair shop that hires certified mechanics to do the actual work, you also failed
to answer questions asked.




thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 7:54:57 PM)


ORIGINAL: BamaD


No, I said that the 4 months traning before going on duty is hardly the end of their training.
When possible they ride with another cop for a year or so. This means they have constant supervision over that period of time.

Not to those of us who speak english. "When possible" does not mean "constant supervision"
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.









RottenJohnny -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 8:16:34 PM)

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It's not about the number of witnesses remaining.

How does killing the only hostile witness not about reducing the number of witnesses?

Because reducing the number of witnesses wasn't the intent of my pulling the trigger. That's a criminal act. My intent was defending myself.


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Since you would be the only witness you can claim what ever you choose. How convenient[8|]

There could always be other witnesses.




thompsonx -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 8:21:11 PM)


ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny
ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Since you would be the only witness you can claim what ever you choose. How convenient[8|]

There could always be other witnesses.

They could frighten you also and then you could shoot them too[8|]




RottenJohnny -> RE: GUNS AND THE USA. HA HA (10/6/2016 8:32:11 PM)

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They could frighten you also and then you could shoot them too[8|]

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