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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 6:53:27 AM   
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My post was about parents who just had a child who hasn't said a word to them yet. You are missing the point that this problem is going well outside the scope of those unfortunate 1% that might have this problem and is now creaping out to infants and children that don't and probably wouldn't ever have a problem by their rather stupid parents that like the transgender trend.


If that is your point I actually addressed it in my previous post. Your point was and is puerile crap.

Do you really want us to believe there's a whole movement of parents and doctors conspiring to impose transgender identity on innocent children? That's paranoid nonsense. For reasons I outlined in my previous post, which you appear to have missed or ignored. We don't expect any better from Awareness but you might like to strive for a higher standard (considering your claim to be a psychologist).

Do you have any evidence from a reputable source that this is happening? If not what evidence are you basing your claims on? Something with a little more standing than Breitbart is needed to support your claims. Otherwise on what basis should we distinguish your claims from your imagination?

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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 7:26:59 AM   
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And here is my argument about 'Do No Harm' comes into play. You don't build and promote problems (and yes, it is a problem as we can see by all the concerns there are for the well- being of those unfortunate souls who do suffer from this gender variant issue. ) If 1% of the population struggles with it i don't think the solution is to cause the remaining 99% to question whether they might have it (or in some cases... they might like to have it) too. Educating people to be compassionate and understanding is one thing. Trying to promote it as the new social standard is an entirely different thing. Saying to a boy, "It's ok to cry. Boys cry too sometimes" makes sense. Telling him, ""You're not really a boy because you cry" is something completely different and has no benefit for an indivual or for society as a whole, in the long run, imo.

It might be more helpful if you chose to apply your mantra of "Do no harm" from a position of familiarity with the issue at hand rather than a random TV report. If you were familiar with the issues or the literature, you would know that in the overwhelming majority of, almost all child TG cases, parents choose to support the child's sense of their gender because they have no other option, because all other options have been tried and failed.

Many parents report that their decision was forced on them when their child told them of their intention to mutilate their own genitals. While there are rare cases where parents try to force an inappropriate gender on their child, according to the medicos, these cases are discovered before any 'harm' is done and alternative course of treatments are offered to help the child and parent make better choices. But for almost all parents and medical professionals arriving at the point where they decide to support the child's own idea of their gender is a last resort, only considered when all other options have been tried and failed.

It is most certainly not a case of flippancy as your post implies. Parents want what is best for their children. How many parents would want or voluntarily choose a transgender lifestyle for their children? How many parents would force their children to run the risks of social ostracism, loneliness, life long medical dependency, discrimination marginalisation and outright often naked hate that many TGs endure? Most parents (who are of course heterosexual and gender normative themselves) would run a million miles in the other direction rather than voluntarily choose that option for their child. Do not wantonly dismiss the agony and heartache that these parents go through as they search for the correct option for their child.

'Do no Harm' does not mean do nothing or always choose the conventional option. There are occasions where doing nothing is doing harm. For these parents doing nothing or forcing an inappropriate gender on their child against that child's wishes is doing harm to that child. They have reluctantly (often stubbornly resisting) come to the view that, for their child and their circumstances, the best option for their child is to support that child's sense of self only when all other options are exhausted.
Utter poppycock, the lot of it. Transgender folk themselves have documented the overwhelming culture of trans-suggestion which operates in the progressive space and how nobody - not even for a moment - considers any other intervention besides gender reassignment surgery. The child abuse now being performed by trans-advocates should be resulting in jail time for parents who are trying to delude their children into mutilating themselves.

You are a fucking crackpot.


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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 7:30:26 AM   
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Do you really want us to believe there's a whole movement of parents and doctors conspiring to impose transgender identity on innocent children?
Munchausen's syndrome by proxy is mental illness whereby a mother causes her child to become sick so she gains reflected attention via the child. However, there's no need to make your child sick anymore - just claim they're transgender and you can achieve the same result.

Some of these "child" transgender incidents are clearly Munchausen's by proxy - others are the demented result of parents (usually the mother) with a gender-advocacy axe to grind who are prepared to sacrifice their child's sanity on the altar of progressive trans-gender advocacy.

Basically, they're mentally ill. Like you.

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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 7:55:25 AM   
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Awareness you are a fruitcake.

Best you don't mention mental illness honey. That will only cause people to think about yours. If your posts are anything to go by, you are a fragile and insecure creature permanently tottering on the brink of a breakdown which you avert by exploding into anger and futile rage at anyone and everyone. Only the truly credulous are taken in by your alpha male act and pretensions. The rest of us just snigger derisively as we scornfully dismiss them. Your intellectual pretensions are even more ridiculous. Do the world a favour and get some therapy with a professional happening. Soon. That's s-o-o-n soon duckie!.

Until then leave the adult talk to the non-fruitcake population. You are sooooo out of your depth sweetie.


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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 8:51:24 AM   
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First, I never said i was a psychologist. I said i had a background in education and psychology. I have degrees and experience in both fields. I also have a third degree and work experience in business as well. And yes, this particular serious issue is being turned into a new fad and new money- making industry. And my point is... at the expense of the innocent children being subjected to it.

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http://www.parents.com/parenting/gender-neutral-parenting


http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/gender-free-children-the-newest-fad-in-public-education/


http://health.usnews.com/health-news/health-wellness/articles/2015/09/04/gender-neutral-parenting-letting-kids-choose


Also... google something like 'Gender free for kids' and you'll find information about parents giving kids gender- free names, and an assortment of information of how the clothing industry is capitalizing on it (i believe Target is setting up a special section in their stores) along with related industries like toys, etc.


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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 9:04:08 AM   
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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 9:27:22 AM   
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Some of it isn't so much a "fad" as it is learning more about anatomy. Almost 2% of the population falls within the intersex spectrum, yet historically medicine has ignored that and recommended surgery and gender assignment in infancy, ignoring all the other aspects that being intersex meant.

Progresses in medicine continually teaches us more about things we didn't know about and never acknowledged previously. Dealing with that and acknowledging the possibilities isn't 'doing harm'. Quite the opposite.

With my background in psychology and 20+ years as an educator, I have seen firsthand my share of this and how, when dealt with openly and honestly, it can positively effect adolescents, heterosexual or not.

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/a40787/intersex-stories/

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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 9:42:42 AM   
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Some of it isn't so much a "fad" as it is learning more about anatomy. Almost 2% of the population falls within the intersex spectrum, yet historically medicine has ignored that and recommended surgery and gender assignment in infancy, ignoring all the other aspects that being intersex meant.

Progresses in medicine continually teaches us more about things we didn't know about and never acknowledged previously. Dealing with that and acknowledging the possibilities isn't 'doing harm'. Quite the opposite.

With my background in psychology and 20+ years as an educator, I have seen firsthand my share of this and how, when dealt with openly and honestly, it can positively effect adolescents, heterosexual or not.

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/a40787/intersex-stories/



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RE: Hjernevask - 10/31/2016 8:26:21 PM   
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I like watching you lose your shit. I know I've really struck a nerve when you do.

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RE: Hjernevask - 11/1/2016 3:21:45 PM   
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Georgia State Study Reveals The Brain Regulates Social Behavior Differently In Males And Females

http://news.gsu.edu/2016/10/31/georgia-state-study-reveals-brain-regulates-social-behavior-differently-males-females/

^ Not sure if this has been cited in here yet. It sure should get some feminazis angry.

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RE: Hjernevask - 11/1/2016 5:44:39 PM   
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Georgia State Study Reveals The Brain Regulates Social Behavior Differently In Males And Females

http://news.gsu.edu/2016/10/31/georgia-state-study-reveals-brain-regulates-social-behavior-differently-males-females/

^ Not sure if this has been cited in here yet. It sure should get some feminazis angry.

I don't know why this finding would make you tingle. The human brain is highly elastic. It forms and reforms uncountable synaptic connections as a child develops and continues to do so throughout life. That is what happens when we learn. The brain forms new neural branches and connections, and others may be nearly extinguished from lack of use, or inhibited by competition with new connections.

serotonin (5-HT) and arginine-vasopressin (AVP) act in opposite ways in males and females to influence aggression and dominance. Because dominance and aggressiveness have been linked to stress resistance, these findings may influence the development of more effective gender-specific treatment strategies for stress-related neuropsychiatric disorders.

The difference may be genetic or it may be that men and women learn different strategies when confronted by stress; different inhibitors may be provoked over time as learned behaviors are repeated.

We just don't know.

I think feminists might welcome this support for gender specific medical care. They never pretended to be men, after all.



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RE: Hjernevask - 11/1/2016 8:02:44 PM   
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Georgia State Study Reveals The Brain Regulates Social Behavior Differently In Males And Females

http://news.gsu.edu/2016/10/31/georgia-state-study-reveals-brain-regulates-social-behavior-differently-males-females/

^ Not sure if this has been cited in here yet. It sure should get some feminazis angry.

You do realise that this study was conducted on hamsters not humans don't you?

"In this study conducted in hamsters ...."
http://news.gsu.edu/2016/10/31/georgia-state-study-reveals-brain-regulates-social-behavior-differently-males-females/

Do hamsters and humans exhibit the same gendered behaviours? I've never heard any one argue that hamsters have gender identities as humans do ..... Yet it is very clear that in humans, our gender identities regulate a huge amount of our gendered behaviour.

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