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What we must do, as a society, is not to instill any such rigid regimes into our offspring.
Teach them what is acceptable in the society (good manners, general behaviour patterns etc) and leave out all religious indoctrination.
At school, include all religions and different societies/cultures around the globe.
Let them decide at age of majority what religion they wish to follow.
They will at least be armed with the knowledge of many religions and cultures to make an informed choice.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Greta, I live in the United States of America. One of our tenets here is tgat all are free to practice their religion, as long as it does not interfere with others, or with the state.

If a woman wishes to wear a hijab, a man wear a yarmulke, or a Catholic put ashes on their forehead, these practices do not interfere. If a Muslim eats halal, a Jew eats kosher, a Seventh Day Adventist eats meat substitute, they do not interfere.

Each of those examples represent freedom of religion.

As America demonstrates tolerance, we hope to set an example to the world.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Greta, I live in the United States of America. One of our tenets here is tgat all are free to practice their religion, as long as it does not interfere with others, or with the state.

If a woman wishes to wear a hijab, a man wear a yarmulke, or a Catholic put ashes on their forehead, these practices do not interfere. If a Muslim eats halal, a Jew eats kosher, a Seventh Day Adventist eats meat substitute, they do not interfere.

Each of those examples represent freedom of religion.

As America demonstrates tolerance, we hope to set an example to the world.

And what of the Mormons.... or the cannibals?
Or any of the extreme lifestyles???
Would it be Ok if I stood up and extolled the virtues of ISIS??
Is it Ok to burn crosses and chant anti-christian and anti-black stuff with the KKK?
I very much doubt it - despite the freedom of speech laws.

It's only freedom of religion when it is within the realms of christianity as practiced in the USA.
Otherwise, it is outlawed and punished.


ETA: the same for most western countries too.
It's only 'freedom' within strict boundaries.

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And my point is, when a dressing is mandatory in the culture that you came from. Please don't come into another culture crying about being judged for not wearing the same. Your culture kill women who don't dress the same. So please! Stop the hypocrisy

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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Most people are not getting the point of my post. My point is. HER FREEDOM OF WEARING WHAT SHE WANTS IS NOT CURTAILED IN THE USA! But she is whining about it AS IF US is gonna stone her to death for wearing a HIJAB! She is crying about absolutely nothing. Her right to wear WHATEVER SHE WANTS is 101% and FULLY Protected. THANKS to the country being NON MUSLIM!

She is whining to the wrong country! She should be whining to whatever country she came from about, prosecuting THEIR Muslim Women for wearing non-hijab materials.

THAT IS the real problem in this world.

There is no problem in the USA. The law protects her right to wear whatever she wants.

Her whole whole post is soooo ridiculous! You'd think she's talking about Saudi Arabia, and INFACT she should be writing that THAT LETTER to Saudi! Especially the part about FORCING WOMEN TO CONFORM! Man!!!! Biggest hypocrisy coming from a Muslim woman like EVER!
Considering HER specific Religion specifies how ALL women should dress in a certain conformity way. Why is she crying about that? She supports that!

And I hope that this woman does not force her poor daughter to wear a hijab! But I fear she probably does. She is just crying about not being able to force her daughter to wear a hijab anymore because the Hijab fashion is not receiving the love and acceptance she expects!

Hell I bet Kanye West don't cry about people thinking his fashion line stinks! And you know what? I think Muslim fashion sucks! Wear it all you want, but I won't stop thinking it looks terrible! And don't expect people to love it!

In this society, you dress for the occasion, and you dress for your identity. A man in a suit versus a man in sloppy over sized pants and shirt, the man in the suit might receive more favourable attention.

Don't expect your Muslim fashion to receive special treatment that people must admire or think it's great! It looks ugly. The whole veil looks dreadful!

South Indian women in their Saris are much more beautiful than an ugly hijab wear!

I mean THIS FASHION is hot!


And THIS is NOT hot!

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I don't know how safe i would feel in a public place with people dressed like that to be honest with you.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I don't know how safe i would feel in a public place with people dressed like that to be honest with you.

I'd feel safe. Her appearance doesn't fit the profile of a terrorist here in the UK. I don't like the look and it grates somewhat (because it rams a religion, and one with overtones of a view of women that I don't like, in my face) ... but I can get past that. *She* is much more likely to feel unsafe than the average westerner who sees her on the street, I'd bet.

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How do you know what's under there? It might not be a woman. It might be a nutcase suicide bomber with a bomb strapped around it's body. How about that walking into a bank? I don't think it's a good idea to let that type of dress be allowed in public spaces. I bet I'm not the only person who wouldn't feel safe at all. In fact, i'd probably leave.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

And my point is, when a dressing is mandatory in the culture that you came from. Please don't come into another culture crying about being judged for not wearing the same.

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Your culture kill women who don't dress the same. So please! Stop the hypocrisy!

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Probably your best bet is just not to leave your house, tamaka.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

I wouldn't feel safe at all if a person was in a public space dressed like that... no. I would't feel safe with someone walking into a bank i was banking in wearing a ski mask either. If you think there's something wrong with that... well... tough shit. I value my own personal safety more than i value some stranger's 'right' to conceal themselves. It's a public safety & security issue.