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The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good' and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'. When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave.

No one needs to encourage blacks to resent whites. Even some affluent blacks will confirm that they fear a traffic stop by police. And, bye the bye, comparative economics might be a gnawing agitation on why blacks dislike whites. Twenty-four percent of black families live below the poverty line while only 9.7% of whites live in poverty, so not surprising that blacks may be a little fucking sick of hearing white folk whine that they should be grateful.

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Personally, they need to realise that predicament started because their own people sold them out in the first place!

It's not like white people intentionally invaded Africa, and enslaved them and took them home.

They were bought from black traders. And at that point of time, the booming country was US, and they saw an opportunity for cheap labour.

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That's why I like Ben Carson. To me, he has the best attitude, correct attitude. It's how he can come from a typical black upbringing, having no fathers, single moms, and bad neighbourhood, to one of the world's top surgeon. It's how he process things and taking control of his own life. And just leaving that slavery shit behind. He was not born in Slavery. Period. He was born as an American citizen with equal opportunity as every other race to make it in America. And like any nationality, sometimes you are born to poorer families, sometimes you are born to richer families.

I mean, Will Smith kids or Beyonce and Jay Z kids are not gonna be crying about slavery past for sure and unfair black treatment.

And if you are born into poor family, you gotta be like any other race born into lesser circumstances, swim and fight your way out of it by relying on yourself to make this happen!

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Personally, they need to realise that predicament started because their own people sold them out in the first place!

It's not like white people intentionally invaded Africa, and enslaved them and took them home.

They were bought from black traders. And at that point of time, the booming country was US, and they saw an opportunity for cheap labour.

It will give no comfort to Black Americans to know that slavery existed in Africa before the Portuguese arrived in the 15th Century. Slavery was endemic everywhere on the planet as far as I know.

Actually, Europeans did seek slaves in Africa.

The transatlantic slave trade began centuries before America became a nation.

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The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good' and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'. When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave.

No one needs to encourage blacks to resent whites. Even some affluent blacks will confirm that they fear a traffic stop by police. And, bye the bye, comparative economics might be a gnawing agitation on why blacks dislike whites. Twenty-four percent of black families live below the poverty line while only 9.7% of whites live in poverty, so not surprising that blacks may be a little fucking sick of hearing white folk whine that they should be grateful.

One problem surely is the break down of the black family. Wouldn't you agree?

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I mean, Will Smith kids or Beyonce and Jay Z kids are not gonna be crying about slavery past for sure and unfair black treatment.

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The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good' and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'. When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave.

No one needs to encourage blacks to resent whites. Even some affluent blacks will confirm that they fear a traffic stop by police. And, bye the bye, comparative economics might be a gnawing agitation on why blacks dislike whites. Twenty-four percent of black families live below the poverty line while only 9.7% of whites live in poverty, so not surprising that blacks may be a little fucking sick of hearing white folk whine that they should be grateful.

One problem surely is the break down of the black family. Wouldn't you agree?

The breakdown of the black family is more a result of several factors than a cause, imo. Fortunately, the fertility rate of blacks has fallen precipitously recently and nearly matches that of whites, so unwed sex not so much. I would guess that a major blow to the black family has been dealt by the extraordinary high rate of incarceration for non-violent crimes like drug possession. The fastest growing demographic for incarceration is women of color, black and brown. The majority of them have children. That can't be good for families.

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The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good'

I haven't suggested anything about anyone resenting anything.

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and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'.

What have you done that 'the blacks' should feel gratitude towards you? Care to share?

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When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave.

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't black people feel, as bounty described, blessed to be born in this nation, without having to give credit to the white slaveholders and the institution of slavery for it? The same as you and I may feel blessed for being born as caucasian, rather than on an impoverished reservation where some of our ancestors surely were?

If you haven't noticed, i tend to throw a fireball to an extreme place so people may not go as far there but they at least will move toward that direction.

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I mean, Will Smith kids or Beyonce and Jay Z kids are not gonna be crying about slavery past for sure and unfair black treatment.

Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith Donate $150K to Racial Justice March

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The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good'

I haven't suggested anything about anyone resenting anything.

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and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'.

What have you done that 'the blacks' should feel gratitude towards you? Care to share?

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When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave.

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't black people feel, as bounty described, blessed to be born in this nation, without having to give credit to the white slaveholders and the institution of slavery for it? The same as you and I may feel blessed for being born as caucasian, rather than on an impoverished reservation where some of our ancestors surely were?

If you haven't noticed, i tend to throw a fireball to an extreme place so people may not go as far there but they at least will move toward that direction.

to what end?

and do you plan on answering the questions?

NM...I really don't care to hear more of your nonsense.

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BLACK FRIDAYS MATTER!!!

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Families? 3 out of 4 black children are born out of wedlock in the US.

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Families? 3 out of 4 black children are born out of wedlock in the US.

Old numbers, yours.

From 1990 to 2008 pregnancy rates have fallen from about 240 per 1000 population to about 130 per 1000 for blacks age 15 to 19.

This represents a drop of 264%

Your numbers are in error and your implicit contention is bollocks.

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I mean, Will Smith kids or Beyonce and Jay Z kids are not gonna be crying about slavery past for sure and unfair black treatment.

Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith Donate $150K to Racial Justice March

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Isn't it wonderful that Trump also wants to address the 'Inner City' problems for blacks too? I think he wants Ben Carson to be in charge of it. Great idea!

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Isn't it wonderful that Trump also wants to address the 'Inner City' problems for blacks too? I think he wants Ben Carson to be in charge of it. Great idea!

Ever since Ben Carson was running for President. I had this vision, that I really want him go to all the struggling black communities and connect with the black kids on the ground. And inspire them to get out of their cycle through believing it is possible, and getting out of all the negativity, like the world is against their success. The focus is wrong. It brings negative energy and it's like self-sabotage.

The world is not. The fact that they are finding success in music, and in sports, there is a place for them. And Ben Carson reaching success in a rare African American area of medical is seriously a fantastic breakthrough. I want to see more Ben Carson, and eventually more black lawyers and judges who are on top. More black governors as well. All within realms of possibilities.

I just feel like Ben Carson is in a unique position to seriously change the African Community, and inspire alot of black kids to have more hope for their own future, that it is not as grey.

The country needs to drop the slavery baggage. Brand new slate. Nobody is born into slavery anymore in the US. It is still happening in Africa. I read the other day that, it is estimated that about 11 million people are still born into slavery today and most of it in Africa.

But not in the US. And they are fortunate to be born in the US today. And because of that, afforded better opportunities. They seriously need to capitalise on the positives. And the advantages.

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The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good'

I haven't suggested anything about anyone resenting anything.

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and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'.

What have you done that 'the blacks' should feel gratitude towards you? Care to share?

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When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave.

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't black people feel, as bounty described, blessed to be born in this nation, without having to give credit to the white slaveholders and the institution of slavery for it? The same as you and I may feel blessed for being born as caucasian, rather than on an impoverished reservation where some of our ancestors surely were?

Blacks need feel no gratitude toward me at all... i know probably 10- 15 that do because i hired and mentored them... pulled them out of unemployment when it was almost impossible to find a job, i over- rode the schedule for almost 2 years to give them 35- 40 hours per week instead of the 18- 22 they were supposed to get. A few of them stay in touch with me because we developed a nice friendship and some have moved on to get better jobs now. I like to think i made a difference in their life as i also feel gratitude for the blessing of knowing and working with them every day and value their ongoing communication and friendship. I actually 'got a reputation' so- to- speak for hiring so many blacks. Honestly i noticed their color, of course, but i hired them becausei could tell they would be great workers, personable, intelligent, able to handle stress, responsible
and dependable. And i was right on every one. I build great teams.
(Well i have many times in the past... lol).