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bounty44 -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/26/2016 3:17:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: Families? 3 out of 4 black children are born out of wedlock in the US. Old numbers, yours. From 1990 to 2008 pregnancy rates have fallen from about 240 per 1000 population to about 130 per 1000 for blacks age 15 to 19. This represents a drop of 264% Your numbers are in error and your implicit contention is bollocks. im sorry, posts like this need to be addressed for their stupidity. apart from that you did not provide a reference for your "statistic," even if what youre saying is true about falling pregnancy rates, that doesn't specifically address the contention about out of wedlock births being ~75%. its true that not many, if any, 15 or 16yr olds are marrying, but 17-19yr olds can and do. whats more, out of wedlock births occur in women older than 19, so again, even if your "statistic" is true, it doesn't say anything about the 20-40 something yr old women giving birth outside of marriage. the cdc reports pregnancy rates teenage pregnancy rates for blacks from 29 to 40 per thousand, depending on location. where on earth you are getting 240 and 130 is a mystery. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db264.htm should we even talk about the irony of your criticizing someone for using "old numbers" and yours is from 2008? and for good measure, going from 240 to 130 is a drop of 54%, not 264. ive not peeked at this but here's the full cdc data that might be helpful for the discussion. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_12.pdf lastly, im not sure what "implicit contention" youre referring to that youre rejecting as "bollocks", but single motherhood is the greatest predictor of children growing up in poverty, crime, and low mortality. but keep voting democrat and espousing those "liberal values!" they are going a long way towards keeping blacks on the democratic plantation.

Awareness -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/26/2016 6:52:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: Twenty-four percent of black families live below the poverty line while only 9.7% of whites live in poverty, so not surprising that blacks may be a little fucking sick of hearing white folk whine that they should be grateful. Imagine if the minority race of my country, which is the indigenous people, are the highest percentage of the poor, blame us Chinese folks for their poverty. The difference there Greta, is that the Chinese are ruthless motherfuckers who wouldn't give a shit. White people with empty lives like to take up causes to fill them.

vincentML -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/26/2016 7:22:03 AM)
quote: apart from that you did not provide a reference for your "statistic," even if what youre saying is true about falling pregnancy rates, that doesn't specifically address the contention about out of wedlock births being ~75%. Your own data supports the reality that fertility rates have dropped a lot among urban black teens particularly. The 75% statistic refers to "single-parent households" not to "out of wedlock births" Addressing the broken families I wrote this in post #287: quote: The breakdown of the black family is more a result of several factors than a cause, imo. Fortunately, the fertility rate of blacks has fallen precipitously recently and nearly matches that of whites, so unwed sex not so much. I would guess that a major blow to the black family has been dealt by the extraordinary high rate of incarceration for non-violent crimes like drug possession. The fastest growing demographic for incarceration is women of color, black and brown. The majority of them have children. That can't be good for families. Enough already with the bumper sticker slogans: quote: but keep voting democrat and espousing those "liberal values!" they are going a long way towards keeping blacks on the democratic plantation.

tamaka -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/26/2016 9:03:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka The irony here is that those who want to encourage the blacks to resent the whites are somehow perceived as 'Good' I haven't suggested anything about anyone resenting anything. quote: and the ones who want the blacks to foster a feeling of acceptance and gratitude are somehow seen as 'Bad'. What have you done that 'the blacks' should feel gratitude towards you? Care to share? quote: When deep down we all know (i hope) that as long as you resent someone you will always be their slave. Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't black people feel, as bounty described, blessed to be born in this nation, without having to give credit to the white slaveholders and the institution of slavery for it? The same as you and I may feel blessed for being born as caucasian, rather than on an impoverished reservation where some of our ancestors surely were? Blacks need feel no gratitude toward me at all... i know probably 10- 15 that do because i hired and mentored them... pulled them out of unemployment when it was almost impossible to find a job, i over- rode the schedule for almost 2 years to give them 35- 40 hours per week instead of the 18- 22 they were supposed to get. A few of them stay in touch with me because we developed a nice friendship and some have moved on to get better jobs now. I like to think i made a difference in their life as i also feel gratitude for the blessing of knowing and working with them every day and value their ongoing communication and friendship. I actually 'got a reputation' so- to- speak for hiring so many blacks. Honestly i noticed their color, of course, but i hired them becausei could tell they would be great workers, personable, intelligent, able to handle stress, responsible and dependable. And i was right on every one. I build great teams. (Well i have many times in the past... lol). So now we know whence your blatantly white supremacy stance. In the process of laying out their various qualities and credentials which qualified those of color for the job in the first place, -by their own initiative and efforts- before they ever got to your gateway, you choose to disingenuously claim credit to your race as to patting yourself on the head for allowing 'them' in the door. How come you don't take such credit and pride (not to mention such dripping condescension) for whatever white people among those you (supposedly) hired who were of the same qualifications and did the same thing? Because we were specifically discussing blacks.

Edwird -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/26/2016 9:19:26 AM)
Which makes it impossible from your posts in that regard to avoid the white supremacy aspect in your mind, by way of trying to convey to all the world how much black people should be grateful to you and your race. Oh right, not you yourself, just your race. I am humbled at your humanity.

tamaka -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/26/2016 10:04:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Which makes it impossible from your posts in that regard to avoid the white supremacy aspect in your mind, by way of trying to convey to all the world how much black people should be grateful to you and your race. Oh right, not you yourself, just your race. I am humbled at your humanity. Humility is good for you... keep up the good work.

ManOeuvre -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/27/2016 9:29:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx For a person who claims to be as well educated as you claim, your post is more indicative of a small child fixated on a shinny object. Socialism and national socialism are not exactly synonyms but then you probably knew that but figured you just had to take a shot. Are you also against the police,fire department,public utilities and a whole raft of "socialist" enterprises? Thompson, it's unwise to promote Fido beyond amanuensis. The typos were readable, bit having your dog actually compose your posts is a bridge too far. I've never shared specific details about my education with you or anyone on this site that I haven't met in person. FYI in Canada the shinny object is the puck. I did not express an opinion in my post as to the merits of the left or right side of the political spectrum. My post was simply pointing out what I found strange about the use of the comic frame.

Charles6682 -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 10:14:16 AM)
The KKK wanted to Trump to win. Sound like they got their wish quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Charles6682 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo2eNXC2vXw Here is a Racists for Trump video. It all makes sense. It really helps to understand why people voted for Trump. Well the Communist Party encouraged everyone to vote against Trump, so clearly you're a communist who hates America.

Charles6682 -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 10:18:49 AM)
I know what I have seen. Hate graffiti by the local gay Church. It was in the local newspaper. The white trash really will try to convince everyone that hate isn't on the rise, when it clearly is. Let me guess, a bunch of far left liberals are intentionally putting white power graffiti all over the place and then blame it on the Trump supporters, right? The hundreds of cases of hate graffiti all over the nation since Trump won the election, including in the city where I live. Even though I have been in this area for years and never saw hate speech around until just recently after Trump won the election. What are the odds? There is no making this shit up. I wish it all was just a joke but its not quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Charles6682 Since Trump got elected, I have noticed in my city more Nazi graffiti, White Power slogans. Its really pathetic. Yeah, that doesn't mean a goddamned thing. At all. Part of the problem here, is that precious few of you understand a damn thing about human psychology. What's happened is that idiot leftists like yourself have convinced yourself that Trump's victory means a more racist, bigoted America and so your brain is deliberately seeking out confirmation of that idea. You then post idiocy like "I noticed more graffiti" as 'proof' that America is more racist. You know why I have contempt for most of you? Because you're depressingly fucking stupid. You don't understand human psychology, you don't understand probability or game theory - you're just illiterate feeltards who can't rise above your own emotions.

thompsonx -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 10:51:38 AM)
ORIGINAL: tamaka ORIGINAL: thompsonx What else could slaves be brought here for? So that lazy self entitled punkassmotherfuckers like yoursself would not have to learn what sweat was. I grew up working on our family 20 acre vevgetable farm you moron. I was going up and down long rows of onions on my hands and knees weeding since i was 8. Obviously you were tall for an 8 year old since onions are grown on raised beds. I would guess i know more about hard work then most everyone here. Sure timmy[8\|]

thompsonx -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 10:53:58 AM)
ORIGINAL: Awareness Thompson, I don't even bother reading your idiocy. An obvious lie since you are responding here. You can't think, can't reason and can't construct an argument worth a damn. Yet I continually destroy your idiotic positions.

thompsonx -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 10:59:06 AM)
ORIGINAL: tamaka If you haven't noticed, i tend to throw a fireball to an extreme place so people may not go as far there but they at least will move toward that direction. You have clearly mistaken a bag of shit for a "fireball" Blacks need feel no gratitude toward me at all... Trust me they do not i know probably 10- 15 that do because i hired and mentored them... pulled them out of unemployment when it was almost impossible to find a job, i over- rode the schedule for almost 2 years to give them 35- 40 hours per week instead of the 18- 22 they were supposed to get. A few of them stay in touch with me because we developed a nice friendship and some have moved on to get better jobs now. Obviously something that pays more than minimum wage and putting up with an asshole racist like you.

thompsonx -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 11:03:04 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 FR Point of the matter is. How did Black people become slaves in the first place? Who sold them out? Their own people. By that metric a white banker should not be upset with a white bank robber because they are his own people???? Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

thompsonx -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 11:11:44 AM)
ORIGINAL: bounty44 among other things, I read boxing history and ive got a number of Muhammad ali biographies and readers. one of them has a reproduction of the second interview with him by playboy (probably mid 70s) where he said this: ali: because black people in America will never be free so long as theyre on the white mans land...we cant be free until we get our own land and our own country in north America. when we separate from America and take maybe ten states, then we'll be free...and if not here in America, the honorable Elijah Muhammad said the white man should supply us with the means to let us go back somewhere in Africa and build up our own country. America, rich as it is, was made rich partly through the black man's labor. it can afford to supply us for 25 yrs with the means to make our own nation work, and we'll build it up too. we cant be free if we cant control our own land. I own this training camp, but it aint really my land, not when some white lady comes up and gives me a $4000 tax bill to pay if I want to stay here. if I thought the taxes I paid was really going to benefit my people, I wouldn't mind paying up. but that aint whats happening. black people need to have their own nation. playboy: since its unlikely they'll get one carved out of---or paid for by--the US, are you pessimistic about America's future race relations? ali: America don't have no future! America's going to be destroyed! Allah's going to divinely chastise America! violence, crimes, earthquakes---theres gonna be all kinds of trouble. America's going to pay for all its lynchings and killings of slaves and what its done to black people. Americas day is over---and if it doesn't do justice to the black man and separate, its gonna burn!... while im here, concerning the three-troll comrades getting hyper bent out of shape over the quote attributed to him by d'souza, That would be the lie that punk published and you gladly repeated. I did some quick perusing of his experiences in zaire, and to be fair to ali (not the trolls), in what I have in print, he praised the experience. But so far you refuse to admit the lie you posted and reposted which makes you an unrepentant racist and bigot.

thompsonx -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 11:15:23 AM)
ORIGINAL: ManOeuvre ORIGINAL: thompsonx For a person who claims to be as well educated as you claim, your post is more indicative of a small child fixated on a shinny object. Socialism and national socialism are not exactly synonyms but then you probably knew that but figured you just had to take a shot. Are you also against the police,fire department,public utilities and a whole raft of "socialist" enterprises? Thompson, it's unwise to promote Fido beyond amanuensis. The typos were readable, bit having your dog actually compose your posts is a bridge too far. this does not address the content of my post. I've never shared specific details about my education with you or anyone on this site that I haven't met in person. You have spoken often of your time at university. If that time was spent in food service or housekeeping chores one can take from the content of what you post. FYI in Canada the shinny object is the puck. Yours must be chrome plated

thishereboi -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 11:39:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Look, who didn't know from the start on the right or the left, that to 'Make America Great again' meant...Make America white again ? whacko liberals who see raaaaaaaaacism everywhere notwithstanding, nothing that i think, no one I know, and nowhere that I read, resembles anything close to what you just said. Yea and then they can't figure out why no one believes them when they say it.

thishereboi -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 11:44:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods FR: Is it just me who finds it funny that a thread about the alt-right is full of our local alt-rightards making excuses for their bredrin with a display of "we are too oppressed by the PC Nazis!" whining and special pleading that'd shame a toddler, while simultaneously calling their evil liberal oppressors a load of special snowflakes who demand special treatment? The liberals are the whining pussies, apparently, despite the fact that the rightards are whining a lot harder than any liberals are at the moment. There's a certain lack of self awareness, or perhaps out and out denial, going on there. Is it me who finds it funny that a bunch of libtards are crying RACIST yet again. Libtards cry racist when ever they can't win an argument, want to attack someone personally or in this case lash out because they lost an election. It's not having the effect it once did. You guys need to come up with another buzz word. WOLF!!!!!! WOLF!!!!!! They could always dust off "Nazi" and start throwing that one around.

Wayward5oul -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 12:11:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 to be clear, I am not suggesting for a moment blacks should be grateful to whites for bringing them here. that sentiment is steeped in a same sort of logic as "reparations." I am saying blacks should be grateful they are here as opposed to Africa, period. thankfulness leads to taking advantages of the blessings afforded. the opposite leads to bitter discord. Yeah, the whole "Black people should be happy that white people brought them here ..." actually borders on offensive to me. That said; the part of your quote I highlighted actually bears some scientific evidence. There have been some studies that suggest that the greater the density of electricity, the more our brains (and certain "centers" of the brain) get stimulated (exercised) and that helps to develop our brains faster. Obviously, I'm not a man of science, but the theory goes like this: In the "first world", man has developed more quickly since the 1890s than people in the "third world". I don't know if it's true, but it certainly seems like it might be? Michael Neither of you are shy about sharing your opinions regardless of what others state. You have strong voices. So if you disagree with the idea that 'blacks should be grateful that whites brought them here', and you even find it offensive, why has that idea appeared on page after page on this thread, and has been repeated on other threads, without any response from you? Those of us who have responded to it have been simply dismissed as 'libtards' or 'leftists', and therefore no need to actually discuss their stance. Maybe, if coming from someone whom they can't dodge debating by labeling them as a lefty, someone might give such statements more thought before tossing them about so carelessly. fyi, I didn't intend to imply anything about the beliefs of either of these posters when I made this post, though is can easily be read that way. My intent was more of a frustrated appeal to them, rather than any sort of belief that they supported the statement I was railing against or anything of the sort. Too much is posted on this board for any one person to be able to respond to every single post, whether positively or negatively. Lots of things are said that I have opinions on, that I remain silent on, for whatever reason. And will continue to do so. As may any other poster. I don't expect anyone to call me out on that, nor should they. I don't always agree with either of these posters, but I don't feel comfortable in chalking this off as just part of a difference of opinion. The way I expressed myself left room for unintended negative interpretation which is entirely my fault, and is not meant to reflect on bounty or daddysatyr.

thishereboi -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 12:58:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Charles6682 I know what I have seen. Hate graffiti by the local gay Church. It was in the local newspaper. The white trash really will try to convince everyone that hate isn't on the rise, when it clearly is. Let me guess, a bunch of far left liberals are intentionally putting white power graffiti all over the place and then blame it on the Trump supporters, right? The hundreds of cases of hate graffiti all over the nation since Trump won the election, including in the city where I live. Even though I have been in this area for years and never saw hate speech around until just recently after Trump won the election. What are the odds? There is no making this shit up. I wish it all was just a joke but its not Of course it's on the rise, idiots on the left have been telling them for months now that if trump wins it somehow means everyone will suddenly accept them and being the ignorant fucks that they are, they believed the bullshit claims. Now we have to somehow convince them that no, they are still ugly racist pukes and they need to say in their basements and leave the rest of us alone or we will find a better way to control their anger.

bounty44 -> RE: Alt-Right? More like Alt-White. (11/28/2016 1:00:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx That would be the lie that punk published and you gladly repeated. I did some quick perusing of his experiences in zaire, and to be fair to ali (not the trolls), in what I have in print, he praised the experience. sorry troll---many people have attributed that quote to ali. you have absolutely no way of knowing if D'Souza made it up, made a mistake with it, or read it elsewhere. how's that for "disabusing you of your ignorance?" quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx But so far you refuse to admit the lie you posted and reposted which makes you an unrepentant racist and bigot. any idea how difficult it is to talk with someone who gets to make up his own definitions for words?? setting aside what i said above, and that I subsequently posted D'Souza not having a reference for the quote, the quote itself has absolutely nothing to do with bigotry or racism. it has to do with being grateful for living in America as opposed to Africa. I just got done saying elsewhere, you are pretty bad at this, you should read a book instead.

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