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Lucylastic -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 5:29:33 AM)

nah Trump tweeted this from his facebook....
Watching the news unfold at Ohio State University. Our thoughts and prayers are with all of the students and administration.
Excellent job by the Ohio State University Emergency Management Team (OSU_EMFP) in immediately notifying students & faculty via social media with the message: "Buckeye Alert: Active Shooter on campus. Run Hide Fight. Watts Hall. 19th and College."
THANK YOU to all FIRST RESPONDERS who reacted immediately and eliminated the threat on campus.
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10158199224805725

Seems lots opf people shared that it was an active shooter.
Yes calling for gun control is dumb...I didnt suggests otherwise.
I seem to remember quite a few of trumps tweets about violence seem to have been a little dumb.
Oh and even posters get things wrong guessing before all the facts are out.


BTW anyone thinking that trump is to blame for racism is not dealing with reality
That he has shown some certain dipshit americans that its acceptable to openly be the ignorant fuckwads they have always been, he is simply the catalyst of ignorance in our time.




heavyblinker -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 5:41:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
BTW anyone thinking that trump is to blame for racism is not dealing with reality
That he has shown some certain dipshit americans that its acceptable to openly be the ignorant fuckwads they have always been, he is simply the catalyst of ignorance in our time.


Does anyone actually think this?
It sounds like something BamaD would claim liberals think to make himself feel smarter.

The fact that it has to be such a ridiculous straw man to work shows just how difficult a task it is.




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:54:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
BTW anyone thinking that trump is to blame for racism is not dealing with reality
That he has shown some certain dipshit americans that its acceptable to openly be the ignorant fuckwads they have always been, he is simply the catalyst of ignorance in our time.


Does anyone actually think this?
It sounds like something BamaD would claim liberals think to make himself feel smarter.

The fact that it has to be such a ridiculous straw man to work shows just how difficult a task it is.

Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.




Lucylastic -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 7:06:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.


I wasnt discussing you bama, good god you are paranoid.

And excuse me for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy in this last post, because you sure didnt mention the horror of a man stabbing or running over 9 people. you made it about gun control. You made it political.

Your own post.
quote:

Mass shooting at Ohio St leas to calls for tighter gun control from all the usual suspects. Only problem was he had a knife, the only one with a gun was the campus cop who stopped him. One of the first to make the call do to what he called a "mass shooting" came from Tim Kaine.


Pot calling the kettle grimy arse again.
I also didnt say all "trump voters"

But please put words in my mouth again, you lying sack of shit.




SuBrett -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 7:11:10 AM)

Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.




heavyblinker -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 8:50:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.


What liberals?? Seriously... who actually brought up gun control? And even if this wasn't just a figment of your imagination as usual, why would it somehow mean the gun control argument is inappropriate if they actually believed it was a shooting?

At this point, mass shootings are simply a fact of life. The gun control argument isn't suddenly a liberal plot to disarm Americans because this time he used a knife and a car instead. It SHOULDN'T be something that just gets trotted out in the media every time a mass shooting occurs, and then put away with nothing done about it after Trump says something stupid again... but that's the country you're living in.

And if it's such a 'horror', why are you using it to make fun of liberals who apparently started arguing for gun control instead of feeling sorry for the victims?

At least my claim was backed by news reports who said the attacker was upset about how the media portrayed Muslims... I suspect your claim is backed by the voices in your head that also make actual communication impossible.




heavyblinker -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 8:52:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SuBrett
Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.


It doesn't sound to me like he had mental health issues... at least, not obvious ones.




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 12:13:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SuBrett

Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.

A distinct possibility, although ISIS has claimed responsibility.




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 12:18:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.


What liberals?? Seriously... who actually brought up gun control? And even if this wasn't just a figment of your imagination as usual, why would it somehow mean the gun control argument is inappropriate if they actually believed it was a shooting?

At this point, mass shootings are simply a fact of life. The gun control argument isn't suddenly a liberal plot to disarm Americans because this time he used a knife and a car instead. It SHOULDN'T be something that just gets trotted out in the media every time a mass shooting occurs, and then put away with nothing done about it after Trump says something stupid again... but that's the country you're living in.

And if it's such a 'horror', why are you using it to make fun of liberals who apparently started arguing for gun control instead of feeling sorry for the victims?

At least my claim was backed by news reports who said the attacker was upset about how the media portrayed Muslims... I suspect your claim is backed by the voices in your head that also make actual communication impossible.

This thread wasn't about gun control. It is about people pushing their agenda with "facts" that only exist in their minds while insisting that theirs s the only fact based position. You would find, if you weren't one of them , that this mindset across the spectrum of all issues.




DesideriScuri -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 3:27:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
quote:

ORIGINAL: SuBrett
Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.

It doesn't sound to me like he had mental health issues... at least, not obvious ones.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/11/28/somali-immigrant-identified-attacker-ohio-state/94563226/

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/28/attack-with-butcher-knife-and-car-injures-several-at-ohio-state-university.html





BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 3:44:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
He is to blame for his actions, but of course it is Trumps fault and he was fighting back against all of those racist laws that Trump has already passed.


You are a member of the KKK, but of course you only hate Muslims and not other minorities.

How does that straw man suit the king of straw men?

You lie again.




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 3:50:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.


What liberals?? Seriously... who actually brought up gun control? And even if this wasn't just a figment of your imagination as usual, why would it somehow mean the gun control argument is inappropriate if they actually believed it was a shooting?

At this point, mass shootings are simply a fact of life. The gun control argument isn't suddenly a liberal plot to disarm Americans because this time he used a knife and a car instead. It SHOULDN'T be something that just gets trotted out in the media every time a mass shooting occurs, and then put away with nothing done about it after Trump says something stupid again... but that's the country you're living in.

And if it's such a 'horror', why are you using it to make fun of liberals who apparently started arguing for gun control instead of feeling sorry for the victims?

At least my claim was backed by news reports who said the attacker was upset about how the media portrayed Muslims... I suspect your claim is backed by the voices in your head that also make actual communication impossible.

The first one to bring up gun control was Tim Kaine who stated that the "mass shooting" at Ohio St proved we needed tighter gun control while the incident was still going on.




kdsub -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 5:59:22 PM)

Maybe the point should be.... the right man had a gun... it was the only gun needed...one in the hands of a professional not a yahoo... to stop a man with a knife that, although he tried, was unable to kill anyone... unlike AR15's against children.

Butch




Greta75 -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:00:09 PM)

I saw this online and I thought it was funny and perhaps accurate left interpretation of the event.

This was clearly a mechanical malfunction and Abdul Razak Ali Artan lost control of his vehicle which accidentally clipped a couple (11) pedestrians. Then he tried to provide first medical response with a scalpel (butcher's knife) some people slipped and fell on the blade.
And, of course, a KKK racist cop shot the poor soul.

Obviously nothing to do with Islam! (TM)

His Facebook posts clearly state his motivation - he was an aspiring jihadi.
But I'm sure it was hacked by racist Trumpists...




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:03:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Maybe the point should be.... the right man had a gun... it was the only gun needed...one in the hands of a professional not a yahoo... to stop a man with a knife that, although he tried, was unable to kill anyone... unlike AR15's against children.

Butch

You are aware are you not, that the average gun owner practices more than the average cop, and are less likely to shoot the wrong person than a cop?
But still my point had zero to do with gun control and everything to do with irresponsible leaders shooting their mouths off without knowing what had actually happened.




kdsub -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:06:10 PM)

Yea right... it is proven all the time someone is shot and killed or injured by accident...what a dumb ass statement.




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:12:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Yea right... it is proven all the time someone is shot and killed or injured by accident...what a dumb ass statement.

Hardly, that is becoming more and more a rarity, contrary to anti gun propaganda firearm accidents are outranked by every type of accident more frequent than gerbil attacks. Also the vast majority of firearms accidents are hunting accidents, not the stuff you want to believe.




Lucylastic -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:32:08 PM)

Of course Drump, your next President tweeted ....After San Bernadino and The Pulse Massacre, calling for all muslims to be banned from entering the US until the country's representatives can figure out what is going on.
no knee jerk there.
no politics there.
[8|]




BamaD -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 6:45:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Maybe the point should be.... the right man had a gun... it was the only gun needed...one in the hands of a professional not a yahoo... to stop a man with a knife that, although he tried, was unable to kill anyone... unlike AR15's against children.

Butch

We should always count on there being a gas leak scare at the point where the terrorist is going to strike, or let them kill till one gets there. Any ccw holder would have put an end to this as fast as the cop did.




truckinslave -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (11/29/2016 10:58:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
Beautiful, ya have this new liberal buzz word "self-radicalization" and then ya top it off with blaming Trump and Fox news. That's freakin priceless. Where do you guys come up with this stuff ?


Self-radicalization is when someone with no direct ties to any terrorist organization decides to carry out an attack... Dylan Roof was the same. He wasn't a member of any radical right-wing group, but his attacks were racially motivated.

And okay, so what 'media' do you think that the attacker was so upset about?

Obviously the attacker himself is to blame, but it seems pretty obvious to me that he was deeply affected by the ways in which Trump has already made America great.



The media that got this poor ole boy het was the print media... the Unholy Koran.
It seems pretty obvious to anyone other than the braindead brainwashed that he was deeply affected by that which I slam... islam.




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