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Lucylastic -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 9:09:02 AM)

I knew you was a fella...
some people are just not that bright:)




PeonForHer -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 9:39:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I knew you was a fella...
some people are just not that bright:)


I'd also stick my neck out and suggest that a woman wouldn't use the word 'heavy' as part of her nickname. Perhaps. Maybe. Mere hunch.




tamaka -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 11:44:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I knew you was a fella...
some people are just not that bright:)


Thank god we have you to judge everyone for us.




Lucylastic -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 12:00:49 PM)

lol bless your heart.




tamaka -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 12:11:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

lol bless your heart.

Thank you... i need all of the blessings i can get.




Lucylastic -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 12:21:18 PM)

pity party??




tamaka -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 12:25:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

pity party??



Nope... gratitude.




Lucylastic -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 12:34:10 PM)

good...




tamaka -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 12:38:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

good...


: )




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 1:08:42 PM)

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That's not a distinction that you can make because you don't actually know the wearer's intent

Neither do you, actually, however, be that as it may, the wearer's intent is not relevant. It doesn't matter if the wearer's intent was to start a riot, it doesn't justify being an asshole to him/her. I mean what's next, getting hassled for wearing a Chumbawumba t-shirt?




WhoreMods -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 1:23:15 PM)

They were a shitawful band, so I can see no problem with hassling people who are wearing one of their t shirts.
[:D]




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 2:29:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

They were a shitawful band, so I can see no problem with hassling people who are wearing one of their t shirts.
[:D]

I said Chumbawumba, not Nirvana




CreativeDominant -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/7/2016 4:20:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
So...just as the T-shirt wearer is not doing anything illegal.


Did anyone say he was?

Saying he was 'asking for it' isn't the same as saying 'throw him in jail'.
So...a well-built woman walking downtown Denver on 16th Street...near the bar and club area where men are drinking and inhibitions are low...wearing a micro-mini, fuck-me heels, stockings and well-done make-up, is asking for it? Because...you know...she's dressed provocatively?




WhoreMods -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 3:49:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

They were a shitawful band, so I can see no problem with hassling people who are wearing one of their t shirts.
[:D]

I said Chumbawumba, not Nirvana

I know you did.
That's why I said they were a shitawful band. If you'd mentioned Nirvana I'd have described them as a shoddy rip off of the Pixies.




heavyblinker -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 4:56:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
So...a well-built woman walking downtown Denver on 16th Street...near the bar and club area where men are drinking and inhibitions are low...wearing a micro-mini, fuck-me heels, stockings and well-done make-up, is asking for it? Because...you know...she's dressed provocatively?


She isn't asking to be raped any more than t-shirt guy was asking to be shot in the face. But to say that these people shouldn't expect a reaction of any kind is just silly.




heavyblinker -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 5:26:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
Neither do you, actually, however, be that as it may, the wearer's intent is not relevant. It doesn't matter if the wearer's intent was to start a riot, it doesn't justify being an asshole to him/her. I mean what's next, getting hassled for wearing a Chumbawumba t-shirt?


So if you weren't talking about intent, what did you even mean by VALID provocation versus just a provocation? I thought you were trying to suggest that he didn't actually intend to provoke anyone, but it seems now that you don't care that he was being provocative and are mostly just focused on what you feel is the correct way to deal with people who provoke you. I've already said several time that I'm not defending the reaction to the provocation, which is exactly what you accused me of, simply because I think that this type of reaction must have been expected.

And is Chumbawumba in a position where there have been protests, outrage, fear and anger over the fact that they have been given power over the lives of hundreds of millions of people? Have they talked about banning Muslims or deporting millions? Have they sexually assaulted anyone? Do they have the support of white nationalist movements like the KKK and American Nazi Party?

I have already said that the context of the message matters.




WhoreMods -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 5:46:32 AM)

I'm still fixated on this "bullying" thing: why are Trumptooners being bullied if somebody takes exception to them exercising free speech, but "liberals" subjected to similar censure are just wimps who should shut up and take what's coming to them? If this is not a double standard, why isn't it?
Presumably me expecting the Trumptooners to discuss that is itself bullying: what could be more meanspirited and vindictive than confronting the apologists with an inconsistency they need to explain, after all?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 9:13:13 AM)

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I've already said several time that I'm not defending the reaction to the provocation

OK, and water ain't wet.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 11:35:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
So...a well-built woman walking downtown Denver on 16th Street...near the bar and club area where men are drinking and inhibitions are low...wearing a micro-mini, fuck-me heels, stockings and well-done make-up, is asking for it? Because...you know...she's dressed provocatively?


She isn't asking to be raped any more than t-shirt guy was asking to be shot in the face. But to say that these people shouldn't expect a reaction of any kind is just silly.
And why should they expect any reaction other than an adjoining glance or a disdainful look? Should the woman be subjected to verbal harassment any more...or less...than the T-shirt wearer? Physical touching or more? What is o.k. in both cases, in your opinion? And if the answers are different...why?




WhoreMods -> RE: Leftists Bully Trump Supporter Over ‘Racist’ #BuildtheWall Shirt (12/8/2016 11:43:49 AM)

Why is the t shirt wearer being bullied but the hypothetical woman is just a whining bitch looking for trouble, if you want to discuss double standards?




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