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Real0ne -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:08:33 PM)
what a dumbass, try 'geneality'

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:10:08 PM)
Geality - a fucking blog post. Not facts.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:10:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub You do not answer any questions... you create more... you seem to not know what socialism is or the tenets of Marx's teachings... Putin is NOT a socialists and does not lead with socialism... this is and has been my point from my first comment on your post. I am not redirecting...I am addressing your post directly on your comparison between Clinton and Putin. Butch That's fuckin' comedy gold, right there! Mr. "Meaning = Leadership". You're a fuckin' hoot, you are! [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] Michael

Real0ne -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:12:23 PM)
billy boys name was sythe the 3rd before he changed it, and rodham needs no explanation, yeh that means they are brits, and they had to step down so a german can be prezzydante for a change. boooohooofucking hoooo

DaddySatyr -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:13:43 PM)
Slick Willy's name was: "Blythe" Michael

Real0ne -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:15:27 PM)
oops yeh yer right

kdsub -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:16:16 PM)
Glad I could brighten your life...you could use a little more light on your soul...[;)]

DaddySatyr -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:17:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Glad I could brighten your life...you could use a little more light on your soul...[;)] What are you, now? A fucking deity; deciding what my soul needs? Yeah. You're a real pistol, you are! It's too bad you don't come with a silencer. Michael

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:18:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne billy boys name was sythe the 3rd before he changed it, and rodham needs no explanation, yeh that means they are brits, and they had to step down so a german can be prezzydante for a change. boooohooofucking hoooo Try some reading RealZero. BOTH Clinton's (Blythe and Rodham) are descended from Brits. They are not, themselves, British. To use another's quote: Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Real0ne -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:31:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne billy boys name was sythe the 3rd before he changed it, and rodham needs no explanation, yeh that means they are brits, and they had to step down so a german can be prezzydante for a change. boooohooofucking hoooo Try some reading RealZero. BOTH Clinton's (Blythe and Rodham) are descended from Brits. They are not, themselves, British. To use another's quote: Jesus you are phoquing stupid. OMG stop being so fucking juvenile already. When you ask anyone but the clintons what their ethnic nationality is they will answer british, either that or everyone living in america is a native american. buy a phoquing clue

DaddySatyr -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:31:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub You do not answer any questions... you create more... you seem to not know what socialism is or the tenets of Marx's teachings... Putin is NOT a socialists and does not lead with socialism... this is and has been my point from my first comment on your post. I am not redirecting...I am addressing your post directly on your comparison between Clinton and Putin. Butch You remind me of this other poster ... rarely came down to this section, but she'd say some of the most ignorant things; non-sequitur, even and then, claim to be over-tired, and just scarper, when she got caught-out in some bullshit. I don't know Marx's tenets? That's a fuckin' joke in-and-of-itself. Putin's not a socialist? Are you blind? You can't possibly be this obtuse? You are right that Putin doesn't lead *with* socialism. He leads *toward* socialism using Totalitarianism (one of the tenets of ultimate socialism). He's a dictator. Another way he and the she-cunt (and most of her ilk) are similar. Michael

heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:32:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Both men are striving toward socialism with the ultimate endgame being to spread that ideology throughout the world. How Putin goes about getting that done in comparison to how Marx might have is immaterial. The end goal is unacceptable. Why do you think that Putin wants socialism?

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 9:48:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne billy boys name was sythe the 3rd before he changed it, and rodham needs no explanation, yeh that means they are brits, and they had to step down so a german can be prezzydante for a change. boooohooofucking hoooo Try some reading RealZero. BOTH Clinton's (Blythe and Rodham) are descended from Brits. They are not, themselves, British. To use another's quote: Jesus you are phoquing stupid. OMG stop being so fucking juvenile already. When you ask anyone but the clintons what their ethnic nationality is they will answer british, either that or everyone living in america is a native american. buy a phoquing clue Now you're moving the goalposts. You could apply that logic to virtually all Americans. British, Spanish, a few French and Italians and few others thrown in the mix. Remember your post#17?? You outright stated "both clintons are brits." and finished off with "tally hoho!" Don't blame me for your lack of comprehension. Or was it foot-in-mouth syndrome again?? [8\|]

MrRodgers -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 10:35:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub What truth... I think you use that word loosely. And... what disadvantage to Russia would ensue with Clinton's elected instead of Trump? As far as that goes what advantage to Russia would it be to attempt to simply disrupt an election or make Americans disgusted with their government? I'm not saying they did not try to interfere but I am saying I do not believe they were trying to get one particular candidate elected. If there idea was to make Americans loose faith in their government it was just a waste of time and resources... we don't need any help for that. Butch This, to me, is the scariest thing. I have a scenario that answers your question. Hillary is much closer on the "socialism scale" to Putin. With Trump in office, Putin has a lot better chance (on any given day) to have a convenient devil to which he can point and tell his people what an evil empire we are. It's the only "advantage" I can see for Putin; kind of like the way we kept the Shah or Saddam in power until it was convenient for us to remove them. Michael But the US didn't remove the Shah the Iranians did and the CIA could have taken down Saddam from the inside or just as they did Qaddafi but there's no money in that (Libya is a very small player in the oil game) and we could more project western oil hegemony in Iraq now..,.and still can. Hillary was a devout opponent of Putin while Trump is trying to kiss his ass. 'I looked into his soul' G.W. Bush. 'He was a KGB officer, so he has no soul.' HRC

MrRodgers -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 10:37:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Just me I guess... but I have a hard time associating Putin with socialism as it is defined. Butch Quite true now...fast learner. Putin is like the western capitalist and all about money and power...his money and power.

MrRodgers -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 10:44:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Even though you're trying to play a game (I'll explain later), I'll give it another try: "There could be no greater difference in Marx's meaning and Putin's leadership." "Meaning" and "leadership" are two totally different animals. Both men are striving toward socialism with the ultimate endgame being to spread that ideology throughout the world. How Putin goes about getting that done in comparison to how Marx might have is immaterial. The end goal is unacceptable. Now, on to your game: Unfortunately, you're falling into a typical category, lately. I answer your question about political ideology and then, you try to twist it to be about temperament. You can't engage in an even-handed debate so, you try to add a few twists and turns. Fail sauce. While I have to admit: your attempt at the pivot was masterful. No cigar. quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub But can you say that Putin is following the teachings of Marx as his personal ideology... There could be no greater difference in Marx's meaning and Putin's leadership. Putin is a lot closer in temperament and actions to Trump than Clinton. He seems to be reasonably intelligent and he should recognized the similarities between himself and Trump and that should scare the hell out of him...if anything make him more of a supporter of Clinton. Butch Michael Sorry daddy, no marxist/socialist attains a personal fortune of $30 billion, (some sources estimate more) oversees a complete monopolizing through a likewise complete thievery of Russian industry and turns his country into a crony, capitalist oligarchy, the likes of which neither western or eastern Europe has ever seen.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 10:58:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Sorry daddy, no marxist/socialist attains a personal fortune of $30 billion, (some sources estimate more) oversees a complete monopolizing through a likewise complete thievery of Russian industry and turns his country into a crony, capitalist oligarchy, the likes of which neither western or eastern Europe has ever seen. You're right, of course. Castro was dead-broke. So was Lenin and Stalin and Brezhnev and ... Oooooh! HilBilly, when they left the White House! No "rank-and-file" communist/socialist makes that kind of money. You're right about that. One of the major issues with how communism/socialism is practiced secularly is that greed runs rampant. Michael

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/9/2016 11:56:37 PM)
quote: Hillary is much closer on the "socialism scale" to Putin. Do you know ANYTHING??? Utter fucking moron.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/10/2016 12:02:10 AM)
quote: You mean the guy that was the head of the KGB in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? Which nation was totalitarian fascist, not communist or socialist. Before you decide to make a comment on a political forum, make sure you have even the slightest fucking clue what you are talking about. I stress this because you have repeatedly demonstrated that your knowledge of the political usage and terminology is so unprecedentedly un educated as to be non existent.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/10/2016 12:03:58 AM)
quote: Putin's not a socialist? Are you blind? You can't possibly be this obtuse? oh fuck off, your ignorance is mind boggling, how the fuck do you manage to walk and breath t the same time?

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