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Termyn8or -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 4:04:14 AM)

nybooks eh ?

Proves everything.

What do they say about the meteor that is about to destroy the Earth ?


T^T




itsSIRtou -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 4:06:09 AM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack


what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4


to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here??

to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky!

When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!!
When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!!
When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!!

and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...)

Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!!




heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 5:02:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou
to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here??

to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky!


It's actually worse than that.

The big story here isn't just that Russia hacked Hillary and the DNC, it's that the RNC was hacked too. Of course some GOP have denied they were hacked, others have dismissed it as irrelevant, some want to look into it, some have openly admitted it and then backtracked... but it seems they can't get their facts straight, and it could be because they're hiding something. Maybe they simply aligned themselves with Putin because they want to win, but it could be they're terrified of whatever was in the hacks.

I think we all need to consider the possibility that Putin was looking to control one of the major political parties via blackmail, and that the GOP hacks weren't released because they were willing to play ball.

At this point, the GOP would HAVE to go forward with Putin's agenda, as if it was ever proven that they not only did whatever is in the hacks but ALSO allowed themselves to run the country according to the whims of their blackmailer, the GOP would never recover.

Putin is ex-KGB, remember.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 7:52:51 AM)

It’s funny how the same people who are pushing this “fake news” fantasy about the Russians hacking the election are the same people who for the past year have been screaming that there is no possible way that the Russians could have hacked Hillary Clinton’s illegal email server.




tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 8:11:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack


what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4


to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here??

to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky!

When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!!
When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!!
When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!!

and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...)

Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!!


Pleaae explain to me how exactly does Putin win in any of those scenarios.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 9:01:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!!
When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!!
When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!!



I'll just file those psychotic visions of prophecy with these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkMA6JPOHU




Lucylastic -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 9:49:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

It’s funny how the same people who are pushing this “fake news” fantasy about the Russians hacking the election are the same people who for the past year have been screaming that there is no possible way that the Russians could have hacked Hillary Clinton’s illegal email server.


strange that your "fake news" hasnt been proven "fake" but you are clinging to it bitterly.
Do you believe that 3 million illegals voted too??
suck poppet.




heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 10:28:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
It’s funny how the same people who are pushing this “fake news” fantasy about the Russians hacking the election are the same people who for the past year have been screaming that there is no possible way that the Russians could have hacked Hillary Clinton’s illegal email server.


It isn't fake, and I didn't realize that anyone besides GOPers were denying that the Russians had hacked Clinton's email.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 10:34:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

strange that your "fake news" hasnt been proven "fake" but you are clinging to it bitterly.
Do you believe that 3 million illegals voted too??
suck poppet.


The alt left way is to try and discredit the messenger in order to obfuscate the message, and that's why the American people keep telling them to get lost.

Regarding your OP, the reality is that even if the emails were revealed by the Russians (which isn't proven at this point, just a claim by the Community Organizers' people) the content of the emails and the collusion and corruption they revealed, and the lying of HRC and her Democrat cronies, were ALL real and never disputed by the Dems.

The Democrats and their cronies in the media undermined confidence in the US political process, not the Russians - and that is why Hillary lost.




Lucylastic -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 10:59:46 AM)

aaaaaah yes, so nothing but bumfuck rhetoric, lmao
typical.
As the electoral college hasnt voted yet, and the popular vote has hillary 2.6 million ahead, the american people who didnt vote at all, merely stuck their arses in the air, and got a gobful of used kitty litter.

BTW where is ANY information on the ruskies hacked the server back in 2009 or 2012...no....just for this election....the DNC...
none, just stupid people connecting the two.
Please provide a scintilla of fact debunking it.
The DNC yes, certainly fucked over the country, the Dems need a spine and new party from scratch.
But please dont bullshit those who can see thru it.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:05:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

strange that your "fake news" hasnt been proven "fake" but you are clinging to it bitterly.
Do you believe that 3 million illegals voted too??
suck poppet.


The alt left way is to try and discredit the messenger in order to obfuscate the message, and that's why the American people keep telling them to get lost.

Regarding your OP, the reality is that even if the emails were revealed by the Russians (which isn't proven at this point, just a claim by the Community Organizers' people) the content of the emails and the collusion and corruption they revealed, and the lying of HRC and her Democrat cronies, were ALL real and never disputed by the Dems.

The Democrats and their cronies in the media undermined confidence in the US political process, not the Russians - and that is why Hillary lost.

If the messenger posts bullshit then they discredit him or herself.




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:09:32 AM)

Howl all you want - we are just five weeks away from flushing all the traitors out of these agencies. Picked up another Senate seat yesterday too -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/11/louisiana-votes-republican-john-kennedy-as-new-u-s-senator.html

And thanks to Harry Reid fucking his Dem bitches in the ass with his brilliant rules change, a simple majority is all that is needed in the Senate now, and guess who has that?

President Donald J. Trump does.

Has it by the pussy.




Lucylastic -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:10:04 AM)

The Republicans who lead the congressional committees overseeing intelligence, the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security take the opposite view. They say that Russia was behind the election meddling, but that the scope and intent of the operation need deep investigation, hearings and public reports.

One question they may want to explore is why the intelligence agencies believe that the Republican networks were compromised while the F.B.I., which leads domestic cyberinvestigations, has apparently told Republicans that it has not seen evidence of that breach. Senior officials say the intelligence agencies’ conclusions are not being widely shared, even with law enforcement.

“We cannot allow foreign governments to interfere in our democracy,” Representative Michael McCaul, a Texas Republican who is the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and was considered by Mr. Trump for secretary of Homeland Security, said at the conservative Heritage Foundation. “When they do, we must respond forcefully, publicly and decisively.”


He has promised hearings, saying the Russian activity was “a call to action,” as has Senator John McCain of Arizona, one of the few senators left from the Cold War era, when the Republican Party made opposition to the Soviet Union — and later deep suspicion of Russia — the centerpiece of its foreign policy.

Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York and a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said there was little doubt that the Russian government was involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee. “All of the intelligence analysts who looked at it came to the conclusion that the tradecraft was very similar to the Russians,” he said.

Even one of Mr. Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters, Representative Devin Nunes, Republican of California, said on Friday that he had no doubt about Russia’s culpability. His complaint was with the intelligence agencies, which he said had “repeatedly” failed “to anticipate Putin’s hostile actions,” and with the Obama administration’s lack of a punitive response.

Mr. Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said that the intelligence agencies had “ignored pleas by numerous Intelligence Committee members to take more forceful action against the Kremlin’s aggression.” He added that the Obama administration had “suddenly awoken to the threat.”

Like many Republicans, Mr. Nunes is threading a needle. His statement puts him in opposition to the position taken by Mr. Trump and his incoming national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who has traveled to Russia as a private citizen for RT, the state-controlled news operation, and attended a dinner with Mr. Putin.

Mr. Nunes’s contention that Mr. Obama was captivated by a desire to “reset” relations with Russia is also notable, because Mr. Trump has said he is trying to do the same — though he is avoiding that term, which was made popular by Mrs. Clinton in her failed effort as secretary of state in 2009.

There are splits both within the intelligence agencies and the congressional committees that oversee them. Officials say the C.I.A. and the N.S.A. have not always shared their findings with the F.B.I., which they often distrust. The question of how vigorously to investigate also has a political tinge: Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee, for example, are pushing hard for a broad investigation, while some Republicans are resisting.

Intelligence can also get politicized, of course, and one of the running debates about the disastrously mistaken assessments of Iraq that Mr. Trump often cites is whether the intelligence itself was tainted or whether the Bush White House read it selectively to support its march to war in 2003.

But what is unfolding in the argument over the Russian hacking is more complex, because tracking the origin of cyberattacks is complicated. It is made all the harder by the fact that the C.I.A. and the N.S.A. do not want to reveal human sources or technical abilities, including American software implants in Russian computer networks.

This much is known: In mid-2015, a hacking group long associated with the F.S.B. — the successor to the old Soviet K.G.B. — got inside the Democratic National Committee’s computer systems. The intelligence gathering appeared to be fairly routine, and it was unsurprising: The Chinese, for instance, penetrated Mr. Obama’s and Mr. McCain’s presidential campaign communications in 2008.

In the spring of 2016, a second group of Russian hackers, long associated with the G.R.U., a military intelligence agency, attacked the D.N.C. again, along with the private email accounts of prominent Washington figures like John D. Podesta, the chairman of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign. Those emails were ultimately published — a step the Russians had never taken before in the United States, though the tactic has been used often in former Soviet states and elsewhere in Europe. That moved the issue from espionage to an “information operation” with a political motive.

One person who attended a classified briefing on the intelligence said that the investigators had explained that the malware used in the cyberattack on the D.N.C. matched tools previously used by hackers with proven ties to the Russian government. That sort of “pattern analysis” is common in cyberinvestigations, though it is not conclusive.

But the intelligence agencies had more: They had managed to identify the individuals from the G.R.U. who oversaw the hacking efforts. That may have come from intercepted conversations, spying efforts, or implants in computer systems that allow the tracking of emails and text messages.

In briefings to Mr. Obama and on Capitol Hill, intelligence agencies have said they now believe that what began as an effort to undermine the credibility of American elections morphed over time into a much more targeted effort to harm Mrs. Clinton, whom Mr. Putin has long accused of interfering in Russian parliamentary elections in 2011.

But to hedge their bets before the election, according to the briefings, the Russians also targeted the Republican National Committee, Republican operatives and prominent members of the Republican establishment, like former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell. However, few of those emails have ever surfaced, save for Mr. Powell’s, which were critical of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign for trying to draw him into a defense of her use of a private computer server.

A spokesman for the Republican National Committee, Sean Spicer, disputed the report in The Times that the intelligence community had concluded that the R.N.C. had been hacked.

“The RNC was not ‘hacked,’” he said on Twitter. “The @nytimes was told and chose to ignore.” On Friday night, before The Times published its report, the committee had refused to comment.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/trump-mocking-claim-that-russia-hacked-election-at-odds-with-gop.html?emc=edit_th_20161211&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=69606674




BoscoX -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:18:12 AM)

Again, this is all based on "secret information" from the same CIA that convinced Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton that Saddam had WMDs, which is controlled by the Community Organizer who promised that "if we like our insurance we can keep it."

Leading Grubers by the nose since 2008




Lucylastic -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:21:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


President Donald J. Trump does.

Has it by the pussy.

Yep an assault on the whole country and he will get away with it.
Not surprised you used that analogy.




WhoreMods -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:23:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Again, this is all based on "secret information" from the same CIA that convinced Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton that Saddam had WMDs, which is controlled by the Community Organizer who promised that "if we like our insurance we can keep it."

It's news to me that Hilary Clinton had anything to do with the second (and shittier) Bush administration: got anything to support that, or were you just having a brain fart?




blnymph -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:23:41 AM)

Pardon me lucy, but I fear you were overburdening simple minds with information.

Maybe: "Putin has goldilocks by his ... oh well, you know where ..." would have transported the message in a way some simpletons understand better.




heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:28:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Again, this is all based on "secret information" from the same CIA that convinced Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton that Saddam had WMDs, which is controlled by the Community Organizer who promised that "if we like our insurance we can keep it."

Leading Grubers by the nose since 2008


I have to say, this is probably the first time I've run across someone who actually parrots Trump as opposed to just assuming he's got some sort of brilliant plan hidden behind his moronic exterior. I've always just assumed people don't repeat what he says because they don't want to sound stupid.




Lucylastic -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:28:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Again, this is all based on "secret information" from the same CIA that convinced Hillary Goldman Sachs Clinton that Saddam had WMDs, which is controlled by the Community Organizer who promised that "if we like our insurance we can keep it."

Leading Grubers by the nose since 2008

hahahahahhaah and you still cant handle truth eh?
welcome back(not) im putting you back on hide again, because your bullshit is the same as it was before you got banned...thankyou.
Suck poppet
dismissed AGAIN




Lucylastic -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 11:30:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

Pardon me lucy, but I fear you were overburdening simple minds with information.

Maybe: "Putin has goldilocks by his ... oh well, you know where ..." would have transported the message in a way some simpletons understand better.


I could drop to his level but it takes me days to recover.[;)]




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