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WhoreMods -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:21:01 PM)
Actually, it's running away from a fight rather than picking your battles, as the tagnut is very unlikely to fight any of the other battles that are available at present.

Musicmystery -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:21:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. You mean besides abandoning NATO and refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia the next time the Russian Federation annexes a country in East Europe that Putin feels should be run from Moscow? That's not being weak. That's being smart about picking your battles. No, I'm pretty sure that's weak on Eastern Europe.

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:23:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. You mean besides abandoning NATO and refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia the next time the Russian Federation annexes a country in East Europe that Putin feels should be run from Moscow? That's not being weak. That's being smart about picking your battles. No, I'm pretty sure that's weak on Eastern Europe. Not our problem.

itsSIRtou -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:23:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4 to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here?? to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky! When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!! When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!! When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!! and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...) Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!! Pleaae explain to me how exactly does Putin win in any of those scenarios. simple, in ANY of those situations America will be SO engaged in trying to recover from those fuckups that putin will be able to do whatever he wants without a weak America to deal with, rather, putin has a US president that's about ready to suck his butt cheek off. especially if china because of rumps fuckups decides to stop buying the USA's debt. .........Now, who else would have the capability to buy rumps projected national debt? (rumps PND higher than Hillary's! by a country mile.) here's 10+ search pages - dare u to find any that says different. hmmmmm....... Mexico ya think?.......nah...Russia!! You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. Answer is nothing... so there is no reason why Putin would play that hand. He might as well fold to China right now and save himself the aggravation. LOL!!! boy are u out of the loop. putin doesn't need the US to be good for a damn thing..... just out of the way. putin starts buying the USA'a national debt, we become as much of a paper tiger to Russia as we are to china. seriously, if u don't think the old KGB officer will not take ANY advantage of that??????? ..... what rock hit u in the head??

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:24:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Actually, it's running away from a fight rather than picking your battles, as the tagnut is very unlikely to fight any of the other battles that are available at present. What's in it for us to fight that battle? Not much.

WhoreMods -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:24:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. You mean besides abandoning NATO and refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia the next time the Russian Federation annexes a country in East Europe that Putin feels should be run from Moscow? That's not being weak. That's being smart about picking your battles. No, I'm pretty sure that's weak on Eastern Europe. Well, it would be if he was a Democrat, but I'm not sure what it's considered to be now. (This reversal is hilarious if you're old enough to remember Reagan waddling around like he'd shat himself and trying to pick a fight with Chernenko, isn't it?)

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:25:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4 to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here?? to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky! When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!! When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!! When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!! and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...) Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!! Pleaae explain to me how exactly does Putin win in any of those scenarios. simple, in ANY of those situations America will be SO engaged in trying to recover from those fuckups that putin will be able to do whatever he wants without a weak America to deal with, rather, putin has a US president that's about ready to suck his butt cheek off. especially if china because of rumps fuckups decides to stop buying the USA's debt. .........Now, who else would have the capability to buy rumps projected national debt? (rumps PND higher than Hillary's! by a country mile.) here's 10+ search pages - dare u to find any that says different. hmmmmm....... Mexico ya think?.......nah...Russia!! You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. Answer is nothing... so there is no reason why Putin would play that hand. He might as well fold to China right now and save himself the aggravation. LOL!!! boy are u out of the loop. putin doesn't need the US to be good for a damn thing..... just out of the way. putin starts buying the USA'a national debt, we become as much of a paper tiger to Russia as we are to china. Starts buying it with what?

Musicmystery -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:31:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. You mean besides abandoning NATO and refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia the next time the Russian Federation annexes a country in East Europe that Putin feels should be run from Moscow? That's not being weak. That's being smart about picking your battles. No, I'm pretty sure that's weak on Eastern Europe. Not our problem. Surf over to Amazon and buy yourself a history book. You've got a lot of catching up to do.

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:32:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4 to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here?? to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky! When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!! When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!! When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!! and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...) Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!! Pleaae explain to me how exactly does Putin win in any of those scenarios. simple, in ANY of those situations America will be SO engaged in trying to recover from those fuckups that putin will be able to do whatever he wants without a weak America to deal with, rather, putin has a US president that's about ready to suck his butt cheek off. especially if china because of rumps fuckups decides to stop buying the USA's debt. .........Now, who else would have the capability to buy rumps projected national debt? (rumps PND higher than Hillary's! by a country mile.) here's 10+ search pages - dare u to find any that says different. hmmmmm....... Mexico ya think?.......nah...Russia!! You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. Answer is nothing... so there is no reason why Putin would play that hand. He might as well fold to China right now and save himself the aggravation. LOL!!! boy are u out of the loop. putin doesn't need the US to be good for a damn thing..... just out of the way. putin starts buying the USA'a national debt, we become as much of a paper tiger to Russia as we are to china. Starts buying it with what? You evidently haven't looked into the China Russia situation beyond a few headlines.

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:33:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. You mean besides abandoning NATO and refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia the next time the Russian Federation annexes a country in East Europe that Putin feels should be run from Moscow? That's not being weak. That's being smart about picking your battles. No, I'm pretty sure that's weak on Eastern Europe. Not our problem. Surf over to Amazon and buy yourself a history book. You've got a lot of catching up to do. Welcome to 2017.

heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:34:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka What's in it for us to fight that battle? Not much. A larger sphere of influence.

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:38:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka What's in it for us to fight that battle? Not much. A larger sphere of influence. A larger sphere of headaches for us with nothing to gain.

Musicmystery -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:38:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. You mean besides abandoning NATO and refusing to enforce sanctions on Russia the next time the Russian Federation annexes a country in East Europe that Putin feels should be run from Moscow? That's not being weak. That's being smart about picking your battles. No, I'm pretty sure that's weak on Eastern Europe. Not our problem. Surf over to Amazon and buy yourself a history book. You've got a lot of catching up to do. Welcome to 2017. Wait til you find out what it means!

heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:41:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka A larger sphere of headaches for us with nothing to gain. Except for the continuation of America's status as the world's foremost superpower.

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 12:57:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka A larger sphere of headaches for us with nothing to gain. Except for the continuation of America's status as the world's foremost superpower. Funny how it doesn't feel like it when you live here.

vincentML -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 1:13:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka What's in it for us to fight that battle? Not much. A larger sphere of influence. A larger sphere of headaches for us with nothing to gain. Apparently, some think it is a larger sphere of Defense. Then there are others who believe it is in our national genes . . . Manifest Destiny . . . . we went to the moon, alice, and we can contain the ruskees and the Chinees . . . we need to keep the sea lanes open, etc.

itsSIRtou -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 1:17:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4 to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here?? to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky! When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!! When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!! When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!! and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...) Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!! Pleaae explain to me how exactly does Putin win in any of those scenarios. simple, in ANY of those situations America will be SO engaged in trying to recover from those fuckups that putin will be able to do whatever he wants without a weak America to deal with, rather, putin has a US president that's about ready to suck his butt cheek off. especially if china because of rumps fuckups decides to stop buying the USA's debt. .........Now, who else would have the capability to buy rumps projected national debt? (rumps PND higher than Hillary's! by a country mile.) here's 10+ search pages - dare u to find any that says different. hmmmmm....... Mexico ya think?.......nah...Russia!! You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. Answer is nothing... so there is no reason why Putin would play that hand. He might as well fold to China right now and save himself the aggravation. LOL!!! boy are u out of the loop. putin doesn't need the US to be good for a damn thing..... just out of the way. putin starts buying the USA'a national debt, we become as much of a paper tiger to Russia as we are to china. Starts buying it with what? You evidently haven't looked into the China Russia situation beyond a few headlines. and u seem to think this is anything at all to do with china.......it does not. This is USA dealings with Russia. Keep up will u? .

heavyblinker -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 1:17:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Funny how it doesn't feel like it when you live here. There are a lot of things that you probably take for granted.

vincentML -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 1:22:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka Funny how it doesn't feel like it when you live here. There are a lot of things that you probably take for granted. There are things we don't know. As per the former DefSec there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns.

tamaka -> RE: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House (12/11/2016 1:25:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+asking+russia+to+hack what putin said months ago.... https://youtu.be/5xwuVjgMfU4 to the OP..... Does the fact that rump asked the Russians to hack Hillary and the Dems for HIS political benefit kinda lost here?? to Me its quite simple...... rump asked....they did,.... he won.... that's it. Putin's perky! When rumps economic policies run the USA into the ground, who wins?................. Putin!! When the USA implodes from sexual, racial & religious infighting who wins??.......... Putin!! When rump declares a trade war with china who wins??........................................Putin!! and putin's not the only one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeaKeyQSYlU http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895 (thrown in for the coms...) Come on people, Why any of this is a surprise is nothing short of willfully ignoring it....... next!! Pleaae explain to me how exactly does Putin win in any of those scenarios. simple, in ANY of those situations America will be SO engaged in trying to recover from those fuckups that putin will be able to do whatever he wants without a weak America to deal with, rather, putin has a US president that's about ready to suck his butt cheek off. especially if china because of rumps fuckups decides to stop buying the USA's debt. .........Now, who else would have the capability to buy rumps projected national debt? (rumps PND higher than Hillary's! by a country mile.) here's 10+ search pages - dare u to find any that says different. hmmmmm....... Mexico ya think?.......nah...Russia!! You need to look at the reality of what Putin/Russia's position is in relation to China and then ask yourself what good could a weak America do for Russia. Answer is nothing... so there is no reason why Putin would play that hand. He might as well fold to China right now and save himself the aggravation. LOL!!! boy are u out of the loop. putin doesn't need the US to be good for a damn thing..... just out of the way. putin starts buying the USA'a national debt, we become as much of a paper tiger to Russia as we are to china. Starts buying it with what? You evidently haven't looked into the China Russia situation beyond a few headlines. and u seem to think this is anything at all to do with china.......it does not. This is USA dealings with Russia. Keep up will u? . You aren't a deep thinker, are you.

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